Zoo's good or bad?

Well that I agree with (y)
Your'll do yourself out of a job at this rate :D
You can't be saying that all vegans prepare yummy scrummy homemade hand ground meals exclusively?
Git! I now have a taste for lamb chops with home made mint & onion sauce, and yet I've already eaten :(
 
There are a few she has, i can't remember them all but If i recall correctly one is the thai red curry (I had that one from her stock one day and it was actually okay... though i thought it would have been improved by the addition of some meat ;) ) She's off long term sick at the minute so I can't ask her but I'd imagine that Amy's could give you a list

welfare standards , i know a lot of the lower ones don't mean a lot - as far as i can I buy from farm shops where i can see for myself what the standards are like (it helps that through my day job i have contact with a lot of tenant or neighbouring farmers where i know the animals are properly cared for so i can buy direct from them) If i have to buy from a supermarket I try to use waitrose as I know from some of our tenants that they take the registration process and inspection pretty damn seriously
 
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My daughter has just started a summer job at Edinburgh Zoo.

She's loving it! :) She's specialising in animal biology at Uni.
 
I am surprised ! :D

TBH You can't beat a hefty slice of Carrot cake (y)

( and no Chris @htid I'm not taking the p*** this time either :) )

yeah but carrot cake has lots of butter in it , and butter icing in the middle ( I quite like courgette chocolate cake as well , but again lots of dairy)
 
yeah but carrot cake has lots of butter in it , and butter icing in the middle ( I quite like courgette chocolate cake as well , but again lots of dairy)

Doesn't have to though. I've seen plenty of vegan cakes that non vegans didn't realise were vegan :)
 
yeah but carrot cake has lots of butter in it , and butter icing in the middle
I'm pretty sure it can be made with substitutes ... hopefully our resident expect can confirm this?

edit, confirmed before I even hit post :thumbs:
 
I'm pretty sure it can be made with substitutes ... hopefully our resident expect can confirm this?

edit, confirmed before I even hit post (y)

I have a busy evening planned as you can see...not :/
 
I'm pretty sure it can be made with substitutes ... hopefully our resident expect can confirm this?

edit, confirmed before I even hit post (y)

well yeah , but for us omnivores it won't be as yummy without the half inch of rich butter cream yummyness in the centre and thickly spread on the top
 
It just struck me that this may be the first ever vegan spam thread ;)
 
Seriously I've had vegan buttercream that tastes like the real thing (well, at least as I remember it... Maybe I'm wrong!) Surprised this thread is allowed to run so off topic! Guess we have a mod and staff member on our side.
 
Seriously I've had vegan buttercream that tastes like the real thing (well, at least as I remember it... Maybe I'm wrong!) Surprised this thread is allowed to run so off topic! Guess we have a mod and staff member on our side.

when vegans say stuff like that i'm always reminded of the viz top tip

"vegetarians coming to stay ? well they say that vegetarian bacon is exactly like the real thing, so just feed them bacon, they'll never know the difference"
 
well yeah , but for us omnivores it won't be as yummy without the half inch of rich butter cream yummyness in the centre and thickly spread on the top
TBH The first time I ever had it, it was at a "almost Vegan" Garden party, as I mentioned before, they only claimed to be veggie as they rode horses but certainly ate in the context of Vegan.

It just struck me that this may be the first ever vegan spam thread ;)
There is a certain irony in that isn't there? :D

Surprised this thread is allowed to run so off topic! Guess we have a mod and staff member on our side.
You missed out King of the spammers, :D
but then that may have been "before your time" ;)
 
Hmm I joined in what, 2010? I can't remember it though. As you said very ironic and doesn't sound vegan to me so I'd probably have passed...unless it's vegan spam.
 
Hmm I joined in what, 2010? I can't remember it though.
It? there were dozens of spam threads mostly short lived Friday night specials,
One ran for over 5000 posts, another for over 3000 posts, these were my personal best :thumbs:
 
You missed out King of the spammers, :D

was that as in

Now I'm the king of the spammers, a forum VIP
they made me a mod and I had to stop
And that's what bothering me
I want to be a moose, BSM, and just f*** arround
And be just like those other members
I'm tired of moderating around
Now don't try to kid me, BSM, I'll make a deal with you
What I'd delight is to talk some s***e to make my dreams come true
So give me the secret, BSM, clue me what to do
Give me a shower of your google power so I can be like you

Ooh-bi-doo, I wan'na be like you
I want to post like you, be the most like you, too
You see it's true, an snake like me
Can learn to be like you, too
 
I used to close them but then they made Chris a mod and my fun was over. :(
:P

Trouble is the "usual crowd" drifted away over time, and though I've tried a few more, they tend to be quite short lived now :(
Oh well it fun while it lasted :thumbs:
 
this thread has been commendably calm and rational ... may be we can start a trend ...
 
Its been serious, judgemental, hypercritical and interjected with a little humour and light relief.
Its a trend setter all right :thumbs:
 
I think some people would argue with you on that point ;)

some people would argue in an empty room

I disagree with virtually every point you've made with regard to veganism , but i support to the hilt your right to hold and express those opinions , and nearly everyone on this thread has managed to behave like an adult even when in vehement disagreement.
 
thread cleaned, Bill this is not the thread for a personal vendetta against pooky, if you have issues with him either hit the RTM button or sort it out man to man
 
:p

Trouble is the "usual crowd" drifted away over time, and though I've tried a few more, they tend to be quite short lived now :(
Oh well it fun while it lasted (y)

:wave:
 
thread cleaned, Bill this is not the thread for a personal vendetta against pooky, if you have issues with him either hit the RTM button or sort it out man to man
... in the Talk People and Portraits section :D
 
I really can't understand the reasoning between people arguing so vehemently over cameras.

If it's something that's a genuinely emotive subject like this thread, sure....but how grown adults can't discuss an inanimate object in a civilised manner always shocks me.
 
My wife and I will be taking the opportunity of free zoo tickets on Sunday and having a wander around with my daughter when she finishes work.
Then, it will be home to roast lamb, mint sauce etc :)
My son is coming down from Aberdeen on Saturday with his girlfriend so it will be a chance to have a new favourite dish - chicken breasts stuffed with spicy chorizo and peppered Boursin.
He's studying sport's nutrition and enjoys his meat :D
I think that is back on topic: zoo, meat eating, cheese, sport...
 
Sounds incredibly healthy...erm I mean UNhealthy ;) As somebody who studies sports I hope that's a one off otherwise he won't be doing much running :D
 
Unless he does lots of running of course - when i was in my twenties and ran at least 5 miles ever day (and lifted weights, played 7s rugbym and did martial arts) i could quite happily have put that lot away on a regular basis with no ill effects at all (a vegan diet on the other hand would have been very difficult to sustain at that pace of activity....) and still had the body of a young greek god

If i tried it these days the only deity I'd resemble after a while would be Buddha ;)
 
The like was for the Buddha comment, the rest of the info I'd disagree with...see the post I shared to Nod about the elite athletes on a vegan diet ;) but I can't compare how easy it would be to maintain that physique on one diet vs the other.
 
My son runs most days- normally 5k but sometimes 10k. He is at the gym every second day and does jujitsu/MMA a couple of days a week.
I cringe at the food bills when he is home from university (he hands in his final dissertation in two weeks)
Tough Mudder last year:
DSC_2590ed by Ken, on Flickr
 
Sounds incredibly healthy...erm I mean UNhealthy ;) As somebody who studies sports I hope that's a one off otherwise he won't be doing much running :D

There is nothing UNhealthy in the dishes mentioned.
It's your insistence that everything non-vegan is as bad for a person as a cup of polonium tea which grinds my gears.
You're a vegan, fine, we get it....I hope you have a wonderful time with it; but please stop suggesting anyone who still eats meat is less healthy than you or your fellow vegans.
 
There is nothing UNhealthy in the dishes mentioned.
It's your insistence that everything non-vegan is as bad for a person as a cup of polonium tea which grinds my gears.
You're a vegan, fine, we get it....I hope you have a wonderful time with it; but please stop suggesting anyone who still eats meat is less healthy than you or your fellow vegans.

That - there's nothing unhealthy about a chicken breast stuffed with chorizo and boursin - okay so there's a little bit of fat, but an athlete needs some fat in their diet anyway (which he'll be aware of what with him studying sports nutrition) likewise with a roast dinner - he wouldnt want to eat it every day but its a decent mix of protein , fat, and carbs to sustain hard training.

like i said earlier if he tried to sustain that level of training on the average vegan diet he'd be in a world of pain (you can of course put together a training diet that's entirely vegan, but it won't resemble the average non athletes one)
 
That - there's nothing unhealthy about a chicken breast stuffed with chorizo and boursin - okay so there's a little bit of fat, but an athlete needs some fat in their diet anyway (which he'll be aware of what with him studying sports nutrition) likewise with a roast dinner - he wouldnt want to eat it every day but its a decent mix of protein , fat, and carbs to sustain hard training.

like i said earlier if he tried to sustain that level of training on the average vegan diet he'd be in a world of pain (you can of course put together a training diet that's entirely vegan, but it won't resemble the average non athletes one)

He is at about 8% body fat just now, a bit up from when he is in hard training. Last year he was at 4% before some Jujitsu competitions.
Just before Christmas he was trying to keep to 6000 calories/day to build muscle, but he found that pretty hard going. I think he was using somewhere around about 5000.
That's a lot of chicken :)
 
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