WAMT....what annoyed me today!

I don't think even you, Toni, as someone who enjoys explosions, would have enjoyed the ones near to us. They sounded like air bombs.I was surprised fireworks with such loud explosions were even legal. To set them off in an urban environment is having total disregard for the vulnerable. As you say, they cause stress to animals but also the,frail,the vulnerable, the elderly, small children, babies. It's why there are laws designed to protect a peaceful and safe environment rather than allow people the freedom to disrupt those desirable aspects.

Yes..having them in one location is the best way and, as you also say, more people are attending public displays than home displays.I checked the stats. In one survey covering a three-year period, 41% of people had attended a public firework display. In a more recent, single-year survey, 25% of people attended a public display. In contrast, only 17% of those surveyed had attended a private home display over a three-year period

If we are to have them atall, that's the best way ..public displays but they will still cause stress to wildlife, especially in more rural settings. It would also address the safety aspect,too. I've checked the stats for that,too. In the UK , approximately 2000 people a year are treated in A&E for firework-related injuries.They mainly occur re November 5th and Diwali, for Indians. No need to go into that side of the issue because my gripe was about the explosions but that side of it needs to be taken into consideration,too Over the years there's been talk of banning home-displays.

I read this,too.
A study, using GPS trackers, conducted in three European countries, Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands, shows the’ effects of fireworks on Arctic migratory geese during the New Year’s Eve celebration. The research revealed that the geese flew away from their sleeping sites in response to the fireworks. They never returned. The University of Amsterdam’s Institute for Biodiversity and Ecosystem Dynamics used weather radars to detect how birds, mainly waterfowl, react to New Year’s Eve fireworks. The radars showed that thousands of birds flew up to altitudes of 500 metres in the air after the explosions.

There's hope and the point here is that authorities recognise the spectrum of environmental damage that firework displays ,in their current form, cause. Canadian cities located in the province of Alberta, like Banff and Canmore have replaced fireworks with special-effects pyrotechnic displays which are quieter and have a lower altitude in order to protect wildlife. The town of Collecchio, in Italy, also switched from standard fireworks to silent fireworks to help reduce stress on local wild animals. Although these fireworks do not have the traditional loud bang, they still have their colourful and illuminated displays, making them a great and more environmentally friendly alternative.

It's the right way forward and just needs the will of government/LAs. ..and, of course, people putting pressure on authorities to act.

trouble is these days everything does that. A neighbour was criticised by another for cutting the grass at 8pm. Someone moved into a house by the airfield I use for microlight lessons and then complained to the club about people flying over her house. There is always something that causes stress to someone. Just because someone doesnt like it people feel the need to ban it.

While it isnt just restricted to the 5th, it is a pretty small window. And if I was affected I would do something pro-active about it. Keep windows shut (easy in Nov), put on some loud music/tv on loud or even put headphones on. Personally I love the bangs
 
trouble is these days everything does that. A neighbour was criticised by another for cutting the grass at 8pm. Someone moved into a house by the airfield I use for microlight lessons and then complained to the club about people flying over her house. There is always something that causes stress to someone. Just because someone doesnt like it people feel the need to ban it.

While it isnt just restricted to the 5th, it is a pretty small window. And if I was affected I would do something pro-active about it. Keep windows shut (easy in Nov), put on some loud music/tv on loud or even put headphones on. Personally I love the bangs

I just knew someone would say that. I also expected, whoever, to example exactly what you have. Noise sources that in no-way compare to the level of noise that you get with fireworks..specifically 'bangers'. You mention a lawn mower. People walk their dogs past me when I'm mowing the front lawn and their dogs just trot by looking at me..or more likely, the lawnmower.Most people might think it a bit odd when a neighbour mows a lawn at 8.00pm,the example you gave but wouldn't think it should be banned. Our resident robin sits on a border shrub..really close, watching me mowing the back lawn. We used to have mallards visiting the pond and I had to shoo them out of the way. Even the visiting rock doves sit on the edging of the pond to watch me. What do you think would happen if I suddenly made a very loud bang ? They'd scarper wouldn't they and in pretty short order ,too. In panic, I'd suggest. Why do you think pet owners ,especially of cats, keep their pets indoors and ensure they can't get out ? Do you see what I'm getting at ? Even the noise from the colourful 'sprays' of some fireworks have a harsh crack. You are completely overlooking the element of "suddenness",too. A sudden noise makes people 'jump'. I said the bangers made me 'jump' and I was sitting in our lounge watching the TV and the windows are double-glazed and you say people should be pro-active in isolating themselves from the bang...and what do you suggest ? "Play loud music." My wife would have something to say about that. We live in a detached house so we don't have to consider the neighbours re internal noise but what about those,the majororty, who live in semis/terraced houses and apartments ? What about pets in the house, babies, small children..other adults ? They aren't going to take too kindly to loud music are they. Put earphones on ? Why should I do that because some inconsiderate people think it's ok to blast the neighbourhood with high decibel explosives ?

The decibel rating of those explosions vary between 150-175dB. 120dB is the legal limit but who's around to measure that ? Manufacturers are moving to low-noise alternatives because of public pressure but you,clearly, don't think they should.

You say "Just because someone doesnt like it people feel the need to ban it" I don't like Rap music..I loathe it. I wouldn't suggest banning it,though.

This isn't a case of "someone" doesn't like it, either. Organisations like the RSPCA, the RSPB, Help for Heros ( I can ewell understand why that group wants some action taken) Red Wings Horse Sanctuary all bring pressure of the government to do something about it.

I mentioned how the authorities in some Canadian and Italy have taken steps to either reduce the level of noise or eleminate it altogether so this isn't just a case of "someone not liking something so ban it". Each year, someone on here posts negative comments about fireworks .

What bothers me about your post is your complete disregard for the well-being of others..especially vulnerable groups which, btw, is totally at odds with your stated political views which I've noted over the years which shows that you do care but for whatever reason not in this case. . You just finish your post with "Personally I love the bangs". So does ancient-mariner,he said so, but at least he suggested large organised events away from built-up areas. You haven't even acknowledged any compromises.






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What bothers me about your post is your complete disregard for the well-being of others..
Many humans feel they have the right to do whatever others are powerless to stop them doing, without regard to the harm they cause.

Indeed, many revel in their ability to harm others. There are plenty of theories as to why this should be but few of these theories have led to practical solutions.
 
Went shopping today at 0800. Got out of the shops to find the rear o/s tyre partially deflated. Tried to put air in, but no joy. Took it to Kwickfit (the only tyre place close by). They fitted a new budget tyre for £76. I got back in the car to drive off and the handbrake which was perfectly OK (cable replaced two years ago" wasn't working - absolutely nothing handle just going up and down with no resistance. I challenged them, but they denied doing anything to it, but then added that it would take a couple of hours to fix. We were only planning to keep this car a couple of weeks, but this sort of thing makes me sick, because there is no way I can prove they did something.
 
Would never use Kwikfit. Heard too many horror stories about them.

Been excellent for me - local one used to be an indy garage but taken over. Was all fine and earlier this year fixed a puncture for free
 
The phone is an incredibly rude instrument - and mobiles bring that rudeness everywhere!

As soon as a phone rings, it's an annoyance which continues until it's dealt with.
 
I ordered a new pop-up sink waste, exactly the same reference numbers as my old one, stripped out the waste pipework and fitted the new one. It's 10mm shorter than the old one! That means that the old pipework fits........ just...... but that the whole thing is in tension!!!!! I did not have any extra pipe in the shed! Time will tell! :oops: :$:confused:
 
I ordered a new pop-up sink waste, exactly the same reference numbers as my old one, stripped out the waste pipework and fitted the new one. It's 10mm shorter than the old one! That means that the old pipework fits........ just...... but that the whole thing is in tension!!!!! I did not have any extra pipe in the shed! Time will tell! :oops: :$:confused:
Flexible tubing is your friend.

The waste from our bath was a terrible bodge - here's what I pulled out...

Bath waste components removed GX7 P1140480.jpg

I replaced it with three components and a short flexi-tube - much better...

Bath waste to drain pipe replacement  parts fitted GX7 P1140484.JPG
 
The original solution looks a little complicated but I view flexible waste connections as a bodge because the plumber can't put the effort in to make it solid and leakproof. Not wanting to rain on your parade, but I wouldn't trust a flexi coupling.
 
The original solution looks a little complicated but I view flexible waste connections as a bodge because the plumber can't put the effort in to make it solid and leakproof. Not wanting to rain on your parade, but I wouldn't trust a flexi coupling.
Well, I put it in a few years ago and it hasn't leaked yet - unlike what was there before. Modern flexible hoses with built in couplers seem to have a good record because they relieve strain in situations like that.
 
Well, I put it in a few years ago and it hasn't leaked yet - unlike what was there before. Modern flexible hoses with built in couplers seem to have a good record because they relieve strain in situations like that.

I have used one myself relatively recently, but it made me wince quite a lot to do so.

If yours is leak-free and doesn't become blocked with hair and other materials from the bath then all is well. When I took a shower base out last year I found one had beenused on that - it had been fitted very badly - and when making up the waste for the bath that replaced it, I was careful to use solid pipes and check for leaks after.
 
I have used one myself relatively recently, but it made me wince quite a lot to do so.

If yours is leak-free and doesn't become blocked with hair and other materials from the bath then all is well. When I took a shower base out last year I found one had beenused on that - it had been fitted very badly - and when making up the waste for the bath that replaced it, I was careful to use solid pipes and check for leaks after.
Isn't it just a case of using the right solution to the right problem?

In my case, the way in which the bath tub was installed and given the fixed position of the drain, hard components just weren't practical, as the mess left by the supposedly trained installer indicates. Used for a bath, I think a length of flexible pipe is a reasonable compromise, because that much water will have an effective scouring effect, even though the drop isn't really long enough.

In any case, I keep a decent plunger to hand and use it freely after each bath, on the theory that an ounce of prevention... :naughty:
 
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Would never use Kwikfit. Heard too many horror stories about them.
Our local quickfit has/had the contract supply and fit tyres for motability, I loved it, 9/10 times they would damage the TPMS valves on the wheels, I could then sell them new ones at circa £65 a go, easy money.
 
The original solution looks a little complicated but I view flexible waste connections as a bodge because the plumber can't put the effort in to make it solid and leakproof. Not wanting to rain on your parade, but I wouldn't trust a flexi coupling.
Nothing wrong with flexi connectors as far as I’m concerned, I’ve fitted several over the years and they don’t leak in my experience.
 
I don't mind using flexi pipes for the water lines, but for drainage I've never been keen and I do try to avoid using them, but I wouldn't be overly concerned if they are in a location that can be easily inspected periodically.

Re. the above design, obviously using a solid piece to replace the flexi would be the ideal solution, but I would rather use a flexi pipe than not have that short run at all due to the risk of creating an s-trap.
 
"The true art of bodgery is to get the least bad fix for a problem with the least effort".

I was told that about 50 years ago by my boss, when I was working with industrial dishwashers. The corollary of that is you avoid aiming for perfection, which is never attainable in any case.
 
Tomato sauce, plastic bottle top valve, spraying out at 45 degrees! :headbang:
 
Gave our trusty Skoda to the breaker's yard on Wednesday, then spent a couple of hours trying to register it on the DVLA site. Totally frustrating, it didn't work. Should be simple, put in reg number, tell them who the scrappy is, then put in the 11 digit code on the VSC/3. Tried it three times it didn't recognise it.
 
Our envy of the world NHS and our local doctors surgery.

Mrs WW has needed to use their services a number of times and unfortunately they mostly let her down to the point that she'd now rather wait until she's next in Thailand. Having seen the system in Thailand I can understand why. It's like NASA v a garden shed operation. Sad to see that we now seem to have a 3rd world system and the answer is not to throw ever more money at it. It is IMO a disgrace and an embarrassment to the UK.
 
Our envy of the world NHS and our local doctors surgery.

Mrs WW has needed to use their services a number of times and unfortunately they mostly let her down to the point that she'd now rather wait until she's next in Thailand. Having seen the system in Thailand I can understand why. It's like NASA v a garden shed operation. Sad to see that we now seem to have a 3rd world system and the answer is not to throw ever more money at it. It is IMO a disgrace and an embarrassment to the UK.
I can't deny it has its faults, but having spent the last 3 months in hospital, I couldn't disagree more with your last sentence (or the "3rd World" comment).
 
I can't deny it has its faults, but having spent the last 3 months in hospital, I couldn't disagree more with your last sentence (or the "3rd World" comment).

Maybe 3rd world is a bit much but I think we are behind the developing world. Contact with the Thai system was a massive eye opener. There was no need to call at 8am and be 32nd in the phone queue. You call at any time and are asked when you want to attend. When attending the facility was shiny and new and spottles and staffed by professional, helpful and friendly staff. We arrived and were seen with 5 minutes. My only worry was that some of the service depended on being smartphone / tech literate but then I saw that there was someone available to help those who aren't.

Compare that with this morning. I started at a few seconds to 8 and when I did get through I was 32nd. You can imagine how long it took to get through. I was then told that someone would call me back. We've waited in all day and it's now over 5 hours later.

For us it's a case of Thailand being NASA and the UK being the garden shed operation. Sadly Mrs WW is sick of all this and is now very reluctant to have any contact with the health service in the UK. She'd rather wait until next in Thailand. I find this embarrassing. I haven't had much contact with foreign services, only with the UK, Thailand and Kazakhstan. I have to say that the Kazakh system also shamed the NHS.
 
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Maybe 3rd world is a bit much but I think we are behind the developing world. Contact with the Thai system was a massive eye opener. There was no need to call at 8am and be 32nd in the phone queue. You call at any time and are asked when you want to attend. When attending the facility was shiny and new and spottles and staffed by professional, helpful and friendly staff. We arrived and were seen with 5 minutes. My only worry was that some of the service depended on being smartphone / tech literate but then I saw that there was someone available to help those who aren't.

Compare that with this morning. I started at a few seconds to 8 and when I did get through I was 32nd. You can imagine how long it took to get through. I was then told that someone would call me back. We've waited in all day and it's now over 5 hours later.

For us it's a case of Thailand being NASA and the UK being the garden shed operation. Sadly Mrs WW is sick of all this and is now very reluctant to have any contact with the health service in the UK. She'd rather wait until next in Thailand. I find this embarrassing. I haven't had much contact with foreign services, only with the UK, Thailand and Kazakhstan. I have to say that the Kazakh system also shamed the NHS.


Sadly, what you have said is exactly the same for us, the callback system doesn't work, they seem to have go rid of repeat prescriptions and very often they will get a nurse to see you instead of a doctor.
 
I've found that the NHS (Scotland) is excellent when it's a priority and especially when you can grab a cancellation, but alas when it is more routine stuff then they can procrastinate quite severely and ultimately private care is often sought.

The local doctors officers are certainly not what they once were. It feels like instead of returning to the norm since COVID, they've used it as an excuse to downgrade their levels of service.

CAMHS, on the other hand, has been a shameful embarrassment to the NHS. A disgrace of the highest order as far as I'm concerned.
 
For us it's a case of Thailand being NASA and the UK being the garden shed operation. Sadly Mrs WW is sick of all this and is now very reluctant to have any contact with the health service in the UK. She'd rather wait until next in Thailand. I find this embarrassing. I haven't had much contact with foreign services, only with the UK, Thailand and Kazakhstan. I have to say that the Kazakh system also shamed the NHS.

Is her healthcare in Thailand private or publicly funded? An ex colleague was Indian, and would have treatment there, but always as a paying private patient.
 
Our envy of the world NHS and our local doctors surgery.

Mrs WW has needed to use their services a number of times and unfortunately they mostly let her down to the point that she'd now rather wait until she's next in Thailand. Having seen the system in Thailand I can understand why. It's like NASA v a garden shed operation. Sad to see that we now seem to have a 3rd world system and the answer is not to throw ever more money at it. It is IMO a disgrace and an embarrassment to the UK.

My wife is the same.... she prefers to wait until our next visit to Thailand.... On 2 occasions, whilst in the UK, she has experienced kidney infections, which meant being admitted to hospital and then having follow up tests to see how her kidneys are functioning...., but then when we go to Thailand she'll book an appointment with a Thai doctor for a full health MOT....

Where I live 3 years ago the 4 GP Practices amalgamated into one group and currently we're down to 2 surgeries open and mainly staffed by locums as they have difficulty recruiting permanent GP's.
 
NHS where we live is excellent. I call the doctors in the morning, the doctor then calls me back, we have a chat, and if necessary, I'm up to see him within the hour. The only complaint I have is that I'm waiting to go on the transplant list for a new kidney, but they still need to do a couple of checks on my liver, and it's taken more than 4 weeks for them to get me for those particular scans. However, I had an MRI last monday @ 7.30 PM, MRI team are open 8 til 8, 6 days a week...
 
My wife is the same.... she prefers to wait until our next visit to Thailand.... On 2 occasions, whilst in the UK, she has experienced kidney infections, which meant being admitted to hospital and then having follow up tests to see how her kidneys are functioning...., but then when we go to Thailand she'll book an appointment with a Thai doctor for a full health MOT....

Where I live 3 years ago the 4 GP Practices amalgamated into one group and currently we're down to 2 surgeries open and mainly staffed by locums as they have difficulty recruiting permanent GP's.

A friend was a GP partner (shareholder effectively) at a similar sounding setup and they had problems because a couple of other partners retired and the two oldest remaining GP partners blocked anyone else being allowed to “buy in”replace them. This meant recruitment of full time GP’s became an issue as becoming a partner is seen as career progression and is normally good for a GPs wallet.
The reduction of full time GP partners and reliance on locums also changed the finance situation for the practice and meant my friend had issues being paid for their shares when they got frustrated by the situation and particularly its impact on patients and looked to move on.
 
My wife is the same.... she prefers to wait until our next visit to Thailand.... On 2 occasions, whilst in the UK, she has experienced kidney infections, which meant being admitted to hospital and then having follow up tests to see how her kidneys are functioning...., but then when we go to Thailand she'll book an appointment with a Thai doctor for a full health MOT....

Where I live 3 years ago the 4 GP Practices amalgamated into one group and currently we're down to 2 surgeries open and mainly staffed by locums as they have difficulty recruiting permanent GP's.

I'm still waiting for the call back. Now well over 24h.

For me, when the NHS or Dr surgery performs well it's a surprise and it really should be the norm. I still haven't forgiven the NHS for how they treated my late mother and the lies and cover up and stonewalling that followed. IMO they really do need root and branch reform. Throwing more money at them just is not IMO the answer.
 
NHS where we live is excellent.
Indeed.

Here in Devon, also, as it was in Wiltshire, where we lived for several years before moving back. In fact, I've never experienced poor service from the NHS.
 
Indeed.

Here in Devon, also, as it was in Wiltshire, where we lived for several years before moving back. In fact, I've never experienced poor service from the NHS.
A sincere friendly piece of advice Andrew. Stay where you are and on no account move to the South East. I saw a consultant and had an urine flow test in April this year. I was told that I would be contacted in June and given a planned date.

I received a letter informing me that the date of the procedure would be sometime in early September, in a later letter I was informed that it had been delayed until late October, then another letter stating late November. I was seen last month, but this was only a 15 minute consultation, after waiting just under an hour.

Following that I was given a date of the 20th November to see a nurse who would demonstate how in insert a Catheter for myself. At the end of that demonstration I was provided with half a dozen catheters to be used following the procedure. This lulled me into thinking that the procedure would be carried out without much delay.

How wrong I was, on the 24th I received yet another letter informing me that my appointment date would be 20th March 2026!
 
What annoyed me today no hot chocolate in Spoons
Totally daft not Wetherspoons fault but government legislation
From google -

due to new UK government sugar tax legislation in October 2025, they've removed it (and mochas) from the free refill offer, meaning you pay full price for each serving, though tea and coffee refills remain free. Customers are annoyed, pointing out you can add sugar to free tea/coffee to get a similar sugary drink, but Spoons must comply with rules banning free refills on high-sugar
 
due to new UK government sugar tax legislation in October 2025, they've removed it

Damned if they do and damned if they don't. It's hard to set a sensible point of legislation to stop people getting sick because they enjoy the stuff that's bad for them.
 
Yes see what you mean my other half said the same

I'm a libertarian in that I want people to be free to make choices that don't cause actual harm to others, but I also recognise that these things are engineered to make people want to over-consume them, to the detriment of their health. Plus many could not afford to cover their healthcare costs as a result of over-consuming sugary sweet food and drink, and it's problematic that the rest of us should have to pay for overindulgence, at least partially induced by the food industry too.
 
Imo the food and drink industry are villains who care nothing about the health of the nation esepecially the nation's children. Millions are spent on lobbying politicians/ministers but it's an opaque world and numbers are almost impossible to come by.



A new report fromThe Food Foundation looking at food industry lobbying has concluded that lack of available information in the government's transparency registers makes it impossible to understand the extent of industry lobbying on specific policies.Lobbying, the process through which corporations, organisations and citizens can make their views known to policymakers, is an important part of the democratic process if done transparently.

However, The Food Foundation report reveals a system in the UK that is opaque and risks undermining democratic accountability, eroding public trust and disproportionately benefiting those with more financial or political resources or influence.



They use psychology ,too. It's rather long but here's the opener.

According to Ofcom figures, children in the UK watch on average 17 hours a week of TV, most of it on commercial TV stations. This represents considerable exposure to the advertisers' promotional messages. Adverts for food products can represent up to 40 per cent of the adverts children see on their commercial scheduled programming. Actually, in the UK it is probably as high as 50 per cent for most of the year.

These adverts appear to be mainly for snacks, breakfast cereals (predominantly the highly sugared variety), processed foods and drinks (mostly the soda or fruit-based high-sugar varieties). In addition to this, fast-food retailers also advertise extensively during programming scheduled for children. These foods and drinks seem to share a common characteristic: they are generally high in refined sugars and fats. The levels of fat, sugars and salt in some of these products are 'particularly alarming' (according to the UK Food Standards Agency – FSA).



 
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What annoyed me today no hot chocolate in Spoons
Totally daft not Wetherspoons fault but government legislation
From google -

due to new UK government sugar tax legislation in October 2025, they've removed it (and mochas) from the free refill offer, meaning you pay full price for each serving, though tea and coffee refills remain free. Customers are annoyed, pointing out you can add sugar to free tea/coffee to get a similar sugary drink, but Spoons must comply with rules banning free refills on high-sugar

If they care so much, then why won't they ban smoking or alcoholic drinks.... ah, significant tax receipts. My bad.

They want to reduce overconsumption with eating, yet they continue to have a literal subsidised trough of fine dining, catering, bars etc where for every £10 an MP spends we the taxpayer contribute £7.60. That's hardly going to discourage them from overeating. Meanwhile over 3 million British citizens rely on foodbanks.

However, on the face of it addressing excessive sugar is certainly a good thing if there are apparently too many people becoming obese from it. I'm just not convinced about the "caring" motives, it feels a little like a virtue signal, but I could be wrong. Vapes are another thing that they continue to allow. Salt content in processed foods is still too high from what I've seen and we still have ultra processed foods. Argh, I'm just ranting. Ignore me. lol
 
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