Another comedy Dash Cam video

Cobra said:
Its quite easy to cause minimal damage with something that large, I will confess my sins here, many years ago, while reverse parking a tri-ax 55 feet over all, I clipped a mirror of an already parked unit and trailer,
with the corner of my trailer, the damage amounted to a sheared nut on the mirror arm, that was it. (y)
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O yes, I agree with you. It's Byker that has a problem with the level (and cause) of the damage, not me.

I think some people are getting a bit carried away with this. Have you seen the grief the car driver's getting on Twitter?
 
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ZoneV said:
I think some people are getting a bit carried away with this. Have you seen the grief the car driver's getting on Twitter?
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Which of course he doesn't deseve at all :rolleyes:

If he had driven in a correct manner, none of this would have happened.

Nasty, self serving idiot...just my opinion.
 
Every loser who wants to feel better about themselves is having a pop at the millionaire on Twitter. It's comical. :)

Of course, none of them have ever made a driving error, and if they did, I'm sure they would welcome some bent metalwork. :rolleyes:
 
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ZoneV said:
Every loser who wants to feel better about themselves is having a pop at the millionaire on Twitter.
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Are they having a pop because he's a millionaire, or because he's the owner of a dash cam business and this seems all too convenient in the run-up to the christmas pressie season?
 
Alastair said:
Are they having a pop because he's a millionaire, or because he's the owner of a dash cam business and this seems all too convenient in the run-up to the christmas pressie season?
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I doubt he could have known the lorry driver was going to do that so I can't see how it could have been deliberate. Plus he could have been, you know, killed, like?

People use dash cams every day as they go about their business. That's what it looks like this guy was doing before getting involved in a "dispute" with the lorry which, as any driver knows, can happen from time to time. Thankfully most lorry drivers don't swerve into you if you annoy them.

Like I said earlier: ex Special Constable, middle lane hogger, millionaire businessman... an easy target for the horde.
 
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ZoneV said:
I doubt he could have known the lorry driver was going to do that so I can't see how it could have been deliberate. Plus he could have been, you know, killed, like?

People use dash cams every day as they go about their business. That's what it looks like this guy was doing before getting involved in a "dispute" with the lorry which, as any driver knows, can happen from time to time. Thankfully most lorry drivers don't swerve into you if you annoy them.

Like I said earlier: ex Special Constable, middle lane hogger, millionaire businessman... an easy target for the horde.
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Most sane drivers don't bait lorry drivers at least three times being a prat...
 
Tigger.ufo said:
Most sane drivers don't bait lorry drivers at least three times being a prat...
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Sure, I completely agree. Likewise, most sane lorry drivers don't deliberately swerve into other cars just because they are annoyed.

Do you agree?
 
ZoneV said:
Sure, I completely agree. Likewise, most sane lorry drivers don't deliberately swerve into other cars just because they are annoyed.

Do you agree?
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Yes I do.

However, have you actually watched the video?

I have, and I see the lorry driver attempting to move left after overtaking and being blocked by the idiot in the middle lane who has sped up, and, in doing so, put himself in the position to be struck. If he had maintained the speed he was doing, then there would have been no contact. He has deliberately caused the collision.

What did you see?
 
I saw road rage between two idiots on the motorway. I see the car driver being awkward but I do not believe for one minute that the car driver wanted to be hit by the lorry. I mean come on - deliberately getting involved in an accident on a motorway with a 38 tonne lorry? That way death lies!
 
ZoneV said:
Every loser who wants to feel better about themselves is having a pop at the millionaire on Twitter. It's comical. :)

Of course, none of them have ever made a driving error, and if they did, I'm sure they would welcome some bent metalwork. :rolleyes:
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What does his financial status have to do with the price of fish?

Of course everyone makes errors, but not everyone sets up an incident deliberately in order to get free exposure for his dashcam business and then (in all likelihood) launch a spurious claim for whiplash.

All the ridicule he's experiencing is self inflicted IMO.
 
viv1969 said:
What does his financial status have to do with the price of fish?

Of course everyone makes errors, but not everyone sets up an incident deliberately in order to get free exposure for his dashcam business and then (in all likelihood) launch a spurious claim for whiplash.

All the ridicule he's experiencing is self inflicted IMO.
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Do you have any evidence to support these claims?

His wealth is a factor because some folk like to hate the well-off, just like folk like to hate Special Constables (but I notice you didn't ask why that was relevant :)).
 
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ZoneV said:
I saw road rage between two idiots on the motorway. I see the car driver being awkward but I do not believe for one minute that the car driver wanted to be hit by the lorry. I mean come on - deliberately getting involved in an accident on a motorway with a 38 tonne lorry? That way death lies!
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Do you really think that the lorry driver actually wanted to hit him?

You can believe that the car driver was being "awkward" but he was the one that put himself in a position to be hit by the lorry by speeding up. The lorry driver is a long way from the back of his lorry and (incorrectly, as it turns out) expects people who are being overtaken, to not be idiots willing to risk death.
 
ZoneV said:
Do you have any evidence to support these claims?

His wealth is a factor because some folk like to hate the well-off, just like folk like to hate Special Constables (but I notice you didn't ask why that was relevant :)).
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The post I quoted made no mention of special constables.
And his originally posted footage was evidence in itself.
If he was confident in it's integrity he wouldn't have removed it.
 
ZoneV said:
Do you have any evidence to support these claims?
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Certainly the latter, the write up states "where he was later taken to hospital, by ambulance"
That's a precursor to a claim if ever there was one IMO ;)
 
viv1969 said:
The post I quoted made no mention of special constables.
And his originally posted footage was evidence in itself.
If he was confident in it's integrity he wouldn't have removed it.
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If you think the video provides evidence of deliberately setting up an accident to promote his dashcam business and possibly make a spurious whiplash claim then you are very, very mistaken.
 
Cobra said:
Certainly the latter, the write up states "where he was later taken to hospital, by ambulance"
That's a precursor to a claim if ever there was one IMO ;)
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How is that evidence of making a spurious claim?

Sorry I don't understand.
 
ZoneV said:
If you think the video provides evidence of deliberately setting up an accident to promote his dashcam business and possibly make a spurious whiplash claim then you are very, very mistaken.
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Am I?
Where's the evidence that it's not the case?
 
ZoneV said:
How is that evidence of making a spurious claim?

Sorry I don't understand.
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So, do you actually think he required an ambulance then?

...after all the driving he did after the "collision"
 
ZoneV said:
I've no idea because I wasn't there. Were you?
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Of course I wasn't.

But, to me anyway, an ambulance is for Immediate emergency treatment, or to lend weight if you think that it might help a case! What a waste of an emergency vehicle and crew.
 
Tigger.ufo said:
Of course I wasn't.

But, to me anyway, an ambulance is for Immediate emergency treatment, or to lend weight if you think that it might help a case! What a waste of an emergency vehicle and crew.
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Lol, your diagnosis skills are exceptional Dr Tigger! :)
 
ZoneV said:
Lol. You're asking me to prove a negative? Come on, Ruth. You can do better than that. :)
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I simply wonder how you can declare someone's opinion as emphatically wrong when you too are not in possession of any facts.
 
viv1969 said:
So, there isn't any.
OK.
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Come on then Miss Marple, enlighten us on how you are able to prove he staged the accident to promote his business and possibly make a spurious claim. :)
 
ZoneV said:
Lol, your diagnosis skills are exceptional Dr Tigger! :)
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So you think he is entirely genuine then?

...and no, I am not a doctor, but I do have a reasonable amount of A&E experience, where inapproprate use of vehicles and crew have resulted in deaths.
 
viv1969 said:
I simply wonder how you can declare someone's opinion as emphatically wrong when you too are not in possession of any facts.
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Because I am not the one making wild accusations. You are.
 
Tigger.ufo said:
So you think he is entirely genuine then?

...and no, I am not a doctor, but I do have a reasonable amount of A&E experience, where inapproprate use of vehicles and crew have resulted in deaths.
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I have no idea. Like I said, I wasn't there.
 
ZoneV said:
How is that evidence of making a spurious claim?
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OK call me sceptical, but this is what we are led to believe from the available evidence, ( from his own website) the incidents took place around the Northampton area.
J16 / J15 M1. He then followed the lorry to its depot in Dunstable. depending where about's, that would be anywhere from J11-J9
And a good hour at lorry speeds. and obviously suffering some pain if he needed to be driven to hospital,
the fact remains that he past a perfectly good hospital just off J13.
(L&D hospital, is a stones throw from J11)

The images show a few minor scratches. Hardly "Impact" is it? contact yes.

What I know to be fact,
When I was involved in a rear end shunt, a few years ago, my insurance company told me to be sure I went to hospital, for a check up, as they couldn't peruse a claim for personal injury,
unless I did.
I told them that they could whistle for their commission on that as it was a low speed impact, and I would not be perusing a personal injury claim.
 
ZoneV said:
It's very possible that the car driver was being a tit but the lorry driver definitely became a bigger tit when he swerved into the car. Driver ego - the sooner we have driverless vehicles, the safer our roads will be.
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ZoneV said:
I have no idea. Like I said, I wasn't there.
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But you are quite happy to state that the lorry "swerved into the car"

Cobra said:
OK call me sceptical, but this is what we are led to believe from the available evidence, ( from his own website) the incidents took place around the Northampton area.
J16 / J15 M1. He then followed the lorry to its depot in Dunstable. depending where about's, that would be anywhere from J11-J9
And a good hour at lorry speeds. and obviously suffering some pain if he needed to be driven to hospital,
the fact remains that he past a perfectly good hospital just off J13.
(L&D hospital, is a stones throw from J11)

The images show a few minor scratches. Hardly "Impact" is it? contact yes.

What I know to be fact,
When I was involved in a rear end shunt, a few years ago, my insurance company told me to be sure I went to hospital, for a check up, as they couldn't peruse a claim for personal injury,
unless I did.
I told them that they could whistle for their commission on that as it was a low speed impact, and I would not be perusing a personal injury claim.
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This ^
 
Cobra said:
OK call me sceptical, but this is what we are led to believe from the available evidence, ( from his own website) the incidents took place around the Northampton area.
J16 / J15 M1. He then followed the lorry to its depot in Dunstable. depending where about's, that would be anywhere from J11-J9
And a good hour at lorry speeds. and obviously suffering some pain if he needed to be driven to hospital,
the fact remains that he past a perfectly good hospital just off J13.
(L&D hospital, is a stones throw from J11)

The images show a few minor scratches. Hardly "Impact" is it? contact yes.

What I know to be fact,
When I was involved in a rear end shunt, a few years ago, my insurance company told me to be sure I went to hospital, for a check up, as they couldn't peruse a claim for personal injury,
unless I did.
I told them that they could whistle for their commission on that as it was a low speed impact, and I would not be perusing a personal injury claim.
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Sure. I know adrenaline can mask a lot though (I once lived with a broken jaw for over 12 hours before seeking help and learning it was broken in 4 places with displaced bone fragments).
 
Tigger.ufo said:
But you are quite happy to state that the lorry "swerved into the car.
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Yes, I saw that on the video. The lorry swerved towards the car erratically several times.

Show me what led you to believe he wasn't injured.
 
ZoneV said:
Show me what led you to believe he wasn't injured.
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Cobra said:
The images show a few minor scratches. Hardly "Impact" is it? contact yes.
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Sure he may have soiled his underwear, but going on the marks on the car, you honestly believe he suffered injury from a few scratches ?
 
ZoneV said:
Yes, I saw that on the video. The lorry swerved towards the car erratically several times.

Show me what led you to believe he wasn't injured.
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I don't believe he was injured in the slight impact in the video as his speed was not reduced sufficiently, nor was there any appreciable sideways movement of his vehicle.

...in fact he had increased his speed to try to keep the lorry from getting back in, thus putting himself in the position to be struck.

Another example of over drama and stunning driving by Mr Stockdale...

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/n...miss-on-northamptonshire-roundabout-1-6264093
 
ZoneV said:
Perhaps this sheds more light on it. It says he was treated for a suspected pulmonary embolism. ;)
http://m.northamptonchron.co.uk/new...ammed-by-lorry-on-m1-in-northampton-1-7096053
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Fair enough but I can't find any evidence for the fact that its cause by an argument with a lorry, if he was feeling un well at the time he shouldn't have continued to drive,
but gone home or at least pulled into MKGH just off J13.

The NHS say's
A pulmonary embolism is often caused by a blood clot travelling up from one of the deep veins in your legs to your heart and lungs.
A blood clot in one of the deep veins of the legs is known as deep vein thrombosis (DVT). DVT can occur for no apparent reason,
but it often develops after long periods of inactivity, such as during a long-haul flight or if you're ill in hospital.

 
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