When do you see the demise of the combustion engine?

[viv1969]

Well it seemed like a good idea at the time
But as above never again

Although it is 5 seats,
cars that seat 5, someone gets the lumpy bit in the middle

Long as it ain't me, who cares?

 

[Cobra]

Long as it ain't me, who cares?

Point proven I think

 

[rjbell]

I never understood the point of five seater mpv. To me it seem to be a compromise in every sense of the word. I just don't get them.

Strapping kids into car seats 10 times a day the extra height is a God send. Not sexy at all though.

 

[nilagin]

You don't know what Ford sell all their Options finance and mobility vehicles do you? Do they go to BCA?

Unless they are exceptionally high mileage, the dealer will sell it on his 2nd hand lot. Some lease vehicles are put through Ford's reconditioning centre at Dagenham (they may have one at Southampton as well). Then the cars, along with Ford managers cars are sold to dealers as Ford Direct vehicles and will come with 2yrs warranty. My current car was an ex managers car, previous owner on the log book is Ford Motor Company. Even though the car was 13 months old when I bought it, it was spotless, they replace anything slightly damaged at the reconditioning centre and all stone chips or scuffs are repaired. I bought it from a main dealer and it was advertised at £1k less than other places were selling similar spec and mileage cars for.

 

[nilagin]

Ah that was you was it?

I hired a Picasso in France once, once was enough, never again!

I've probably mentioned this before, but whenever I have to run the MIL and FIL up the A12 to St Osyth, there is always a tailback and the culprit always seems to be a silver Picasso overtaking an artic whilst travelling 0.00001mph faster.

 

[Cobra]

I've probably mentioned this before, but whenever I have to run the MIL and FIL up the A12 to St Osyth, there is always a tailback and the culprit always seems to be a silver Picasso overtaking an artic whilst travelling 0.00001mph faster.

Not guilty

 

[Deleted member 49549]

It's not my kind of car, but I just noticed a special deal on a Citroen C4 Cactus which is for £89+VAT and absolute steal. That is seriously a lot of car for your money if you can live with the looks. For the savings I could almost be swayed and I know others absolutely love the look.

What annual mileage was that? I have seen a deal for £117 inclusive, but only 5k miles PA, 18 month deal. Do you have a link to that deal?

 

[ianp5a]

You may have noticed that governments don't make emissions legislation (or taxation classes) retrospective,

They actually can. And do, in a way, in the city I live in, within the ring road it's been a 'special environment zone' since 2012. Vehicles with high particle emissions are not allowed in. With fines if caught. And particle emissions is the reason for reducing the speed limits in many areas. This is affecting all motorists.

Speaking of cities, the OP question probably differs when it comes to cities. It's likely that the demise of the combustion engine will occur much sooner in the big cities. Where public transport is more dense. And private vehicle ownership is much reduced.

 

[Nod]

That'll be the public transport that's often Diesel enginned and stinks the city centre out. Which is (here) more expensive than driving down to town and parking (and that's using one person's fare as the public transport cost.)

 

[ianp5a]

It's electric trams and underground trains here mainly. There are buses. But in densely populated cities the buses are full. So emissions per head are tiny in comparison to Volkswagens.

 

[nilagin]

They actually can. And do, in a way, in the city I live in, within the ring road it's been a 'special environment zone' since 2012. Vehicles with high particle emissions are not allowed in. With fines if caught. And particle emissions is the reason for reducing the speed limits in many areas. This is affecting all motorists.

Speaking of cities, the OP question probably differs when it comes to cities. It's likely that the demise of the combustion engine will occur much sooner in the big cities. Where public transport is more dense. And private vehicle ownership is much reduced.

But particulate emissions aren't really dependant on road speed but it is on engine speed and load. A vehicle restricted to 20 mph is likely to be producing higher emissions than a vehicle in a higher gear and faster road speed whilst the engine is at lower rpm and load.

 

[ianp5a]

Then they are all wrong then.
Further reading tells me that NO2 is also involved, and the speed limit reduction in the affected areas is to reduce traffic backup, permitting a more continuous flow.