WBMT.....What baffled me today

Being trapped in a hotel for (potentially) days at a time with short visits ashore to see the sights (while getting a cricked neck from looking at them at a half run) doesn't appeal to me in the slightest! The only way to make them bearable is to drink too much while eating too much...
 
After a P&O cruise, a friend found that his home was infested with bed bugs and the expert stated that the source was almost certainly the cruise ship. While it was expensive to have them completely eradicated from his home, no insurance company would pay (included his home insurance, travel insurance or P&O). I would never go on a cruise myself as I keep hearing about these problems and fail to see any attractions.

Dave

Went on first this year - 2nd over Xmas. It was great. Not really sure how its too much different to an all inclusive hotel/resort?
 
There are cruises & then there are cruises.....

We went on a Hurtigruten HX Polar Expedition cruise this summer around Svalbard onboard MS Fram, we spent most of the time either ashore or riding around in Zodiacs negotiating ice flows, & we saw polar bears, minky whales, Beluga whales and walruses. The ship had fewer than 250 passengers onboard with a brilliant science team, science lab and lecture theatre instead of the more usual shipboard entertainment.

Being escorted ashore with crew carrying rifles was a bit unnerving at first but we were told it was illegal to feed the polar bears so we had to be carefully supervised. A number of our fellow passengers had to be evacuated from the shore one day after a polar bear swam across the fjord heading in their direction.

Saving up for Antarctica now.........
 
Being escorted ashore with crew carrying rifles was a bit unnerving at first but we were told it was illegal to feed the polar bears so we had to be carefully supervised.

When I first read this I thought the crew with rifles were there to shoot any passenger who tried to feed the bears:)

Dave
 
Being trapped in a hotel for (potentially) days at a time with short visits ashore to see the sights (while getting a cricked neck from looking at them at a half run) doesn't appeal to me in the slightest! The only way to make them bearable is to drink too much while eating too much...
From your post a take it that you are definitely a landlubber. Having served as an officer with P&O, the real one, not the present day one owned by 'grab as much money as we can Yanks'. in my now long gone younger days and because of personal circumstances, I have been unable to enjoy sea voyages.

Times change and I now have a 18 night P&O cruise booked for May 2025, I can't wait to once again feel the movement of a ship under my feet and have the sheer delight of feeling the breeze and watching the waves.
 
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We've done a number of cruises, Med, Caribbean, Adriatic, and the Canaries. Enjoyed every one of them. Great food, lots of different places to explore. Most days you're in a port so off ship somewhere and travel at night. Considering doing another, but one that sails from Southampton as I can't be @rsed to fly anymore.
 
When I first read this I thought the crew with rifles were there to shoot any passenger who tried to feed the bears:)

Dave
I think the Authorities in Svalbard were afraid 'we' were going to become bear food....

Apparently you are not allowed to be buried in Svalbard, as the permafrost prevents decay and the bears & arctic foxes might dig the bodies up..
 
From your post a take it that you are definitely a landlubber. Having served as an officer with P&O, the real one, not the present day one owned by 'grab as much money as we can Yanks'. in my now long gone younger days and because of personal circumstances, I have been unable to enjoy sea voyages.

Times change and I now have a 18 night P&O cruise booked for May 2025, I can't wait to once again feel the movement of a ship under my feet and have the sheer delight of feeling the breeze and watching the waves.


No landlubber, just someone who cannot see the joy in cruises. We see them being frogmarched around one of the cities we visit and the poor souls don't have time for a coffee - those in the know among the passengers plonk themselves in a café or taverna close to the drop off/pick up point of the jolly boats and enjoy watching the world go by while their fellow inmates are rushed around by placard wielding hosts. We've helped a few couples back to the collection area when they've been unable to keep up with the group.
 
WBMT - it's snowed overnight in Oxfordshire. Expected it for Scotland, but not home counties.
 
Just heard from pal in Manor Park - he has big wet snowflakes, and daughter in Walthamstow //Chingford has sleet !!
I'm in Scotland and it's just really cold
 
WBMT - it's snowed overnight in Oxfordshire. Expected it for Scotland, but not home counties.

Same here, Glasgow often misses out on the snow so I was quite looking forward a light dusting and get the children out sledging, but alas it was not to be. Just nice hard frost to encase the car...:cautious:
 
No landlubber, just someone who cannot see the joy in cruises. We see them being frogmarched around one of the cities we visit and the poor souls don't have time for a coffee - those in the know among the passengers plonk themselves in a café or taverna close to the drop off/pick up point of the jolly boats and enjoy watching the world go by while their fellow inmates are rushed around by placard wielding hosts. We've helped a few couples back to the collection area when they've been unable to keep up with the group.

When we got off the boat we just wandered round as we wanted. In Nassau, went for a wander, then ice cream, time on the beach and walked back. Same at any of the things we did.
 
No landlubber, just someone who cannot see the joy in cruises. We see them being frogmarched around one of the cities we visit and the poor souls don't have time for a coffee - those in the know among the passengers plonk themselves in a café or taverna close to the drop off/pick up point of the jolly boats and enjoy watching the world go by while their fellow inmates are rushed around by placard wielding hosts. We've helped a few couples back to the collection area when they've been unable to keep up with the group.

Yes agree with you there, I don’t get the attraction either travelling around in a huge ship with masses of people
I guess everyone is different when we go away we like to see nature and get away from crowds
My dad loved cruises though and maybe I’m just unsociable :banana:
 
Yes agree with you there, I don’t get the attraction either travelling around in a huge ship with masses of people
I guess everyone is different when we go away we like to see nature and get away from crowds
My dad loved cruises though and maybe I’m just unsociable :banana:

I don't think because you don't enjoy a cruise means you're unsociable. My wife and I don't like huge hotels and enjoy self-catering. We don't do that all the time because it's not fair on her. That's no break for women who,generally do all the cooking at home. Not only that but thinking what to have for the evening neal.

We enjoyed a few cruises and the first was on "Majesty of the Seas. Royal Caribbean...1998. ..doing a West Caribbean cruise,then one on the east side. The ship carried 800 passengers. The ships today have 800 crew. :eek: The Alaska cruise was great. They are so large these days and to me,not having any marine engineering knowledge, look top heavy. I wonder how they'd fair if caught in one of these more potent hurricanes, cyclones or typhoons we see these days ? Because of the huge number of passengers I think it's difficult to maintain a high level of hygiene. It's not for us anymore. When we book a UK self-catering holiday it often includes where I can photograph wildlife. birds/wildfowl.
 
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Is it pronounced, Travel-lodge, Travel-odge or Trave-lodge?

It's spelt Travelodge...only one l in the middle!
 
I don't think because you don't enjoy a cruise means you're unsociable. My wife and I don't like huge hotels and enjoy self-catering. We don't do that all the time because it's not fair on her. That's no break for women who,generally does all the cooking at home. Not only that but thinking what to have for the evening neal.

We enjoyed a few cruises and the first was on "Majesty of the Seas. Royal Caribbean...1998. ..9 doing a West Caribbean cruise,then one on the east side. The ship carried 800 passengers. The ships today have 800 crew. :eek: The Alaska cruise was great. They are so large these days and to me,not having any marine engineering knowledge, look top heavy. I wonder how they'd fair if caught in one of these more potent hurricanes, cyclones or typhoons we see these days ? Because of the huge number of passengers I think it's difficult to maintain a high level of hygiene. It's not for us anymore. When we book a UK self-catering holiday it often includes where I can photograph wildlife. birds/wildfowl.


Self catering doesn't mean you have to cook for yourselves - we always go self catering and only do breakfast for ourselves, eating out the rest of the time. Hardest choice is what to eat, once we've decided that, we know where to go!
 
No landlubber, just someone who cannot see the joy in cruises. We see them being frogmarched around one of the cities we visit and the poor souls don't have time for a coffee - those in the know among the passengers plonk themselves in a café or taverna close to the drop off/pick up point of the jolly boats and enjoy watching the world go by while their fellow inmates are rushed around by placard wielding hosts. We've helped a few couples back to the collection area when they've been unable to keep up with the group.
I never joined any of the organised trips as I, or us if part of a group, were too busy taking harbour trips or finding locations from where we could photograph the various ships and harbour craft. When actually cruising, if there were no ships about I found the sensations of being on a ship very therapeutic.

Perhaps I should explain that for four or five generations back my father's side of the family have been seafarers or connected with the sea as shipwrights and other marine occupations. As one of my former female companions once put it "The trouble with you is that half of your blood is seawater" :)
 
Self catering doesn't mean you have to cook for yourselves - we always go self catering and only do breakfast for ourselves, eating out the rest of the time. Hardest choice is what to eat, once we've decided that, we know where to go!

Fair point and thinking about it, we take several Cook ready meals...frozen. Very good quality.


We don't like going out to eat because it means driving to a restaurant or hotel ,the same one each evening ,maybe, if there aren't many around. We don't like pubs..especially me ...and Pete thinks he might be unsociable....:D..and ,yes..as you've mentioned, what to eat ? We often went south west Cornwall, near Lizard, and went to Sainsburys , Helston, to shop. We did go out to eat a couple of times with our hosts, who, over the years became friends, but seldom on our own and when we have, out of necessity, I'm glad when we clear off out and get back to our accommodation or home. To be fair to my wife,she's really ok with it, it's me that's the miserable. b****r..:D.One year we went with our hosts to a pub for a party re a birthday..hers or her husband's,I forget which . They hired a room for the 20-25 guests who attended. I hated every moment. Infact, when she asked us she said, " I know you don't like parties, John, but......:D.
 
I never joined any of the organised trips as I, or us if part of a group, were too busy taking harbour trips or finding locations from where we could photograph the various ships and harbour craft. When actually cruising, if there were no ships about I found the sensations of being on a ship very therapeutic.

Perhaps I should explain that for four or five generations back my father's side of the family have been seafarers or connected with the sea as shipwrights and other marine occupations. As one of my former female companions once put it "The trouble with you is that half of your blood is seawater" :)

Re "finding being on a ship very therapeutic,"...you wouldn't know you were on one with the size of some of them,these days. Apart from that aspect, I too love being on a ship. As a lad I was in the RNVR, Salthouse dock, Liverpool and went out into the Irish Sea on a minesweeper at weekends. Never got seasick.
 
Fair point and thinking about it, we take several Cook ready meals...frozen. Very good quality.


We don't like going out to eat because it means driving to a restaurant or hotel ,the same one each evening ,maybe, if there aren't many around. We don't like pubs..especially me ...and Pete thinks he might be unsociable....:D..and ,yes..as you've mentioned, what to eat ? We often went south west Cornwall, near Lizard, and went to Sainsburys , Helston, to shop. We did go out to eat a couple of times with our hosts, who, over the years became friends, but seldom on our own and when we have, out of necessity, I'm glad when we clear off out and get back to our accommodation or home. To be fair to my wife,she's really ok with it, it's me that's the miserable. b****r..:D.One year we went with our hosts to a pub for a party re a birthday..hers or her husband's,I forget which . They hired a room for the 20-25 guests who attended. I hated every moment. Infact, when she asked us she said, " I know you don't like parties, John, but......:D.


We never make a deliberate drive for a meal - plenty of options pretty much wherever we go. In the evening, there are 20 or more decent places to eat within a 10 minute walk and a city full of places a €1.20 bus ride away.
 
It really baffles me, considering how much more people have been made aware of melanomas due to exposure to strong sunlight that many guests at this hotel I'm in were lying out in.,officially, 32C today with only a few under brollies. 32C is ,in old money 90F. That was the official temperature.I, like many others in the UK, have now experienced many days of very high temperatures out on the patio in summer so I know when its getting around 100F...almost 38C. It was so hot around 4.00pm today we were unable to sit on the balcony and had to retreat into our room and put the air-conditioning on. We both felt that it was actually dangerous to be out in it .well, at least, not safe. I do see these sun-worshippers putting on the sun screen but nevertheless they'd be better off in shade. Can sunscreen deal with such high temperatures adequately, I wonder ?

Tomorrow's forecast is for 31C so, the numpties will be out in it again. They even dash to the poolside at 8.00am to get a sun lounger.

31C and 32C mid-late November., even here in south Tenerife is amazing . On November 9th it got to 34C.. We arrived the following day and it had dropped to a chilly 27C..


 
WBMT

The BBC World Service Business Program reported that Bitcoin had gone up from $60,000 to $100,000

However, they repeatedly said in the same bulletin that the increase is 40%........ really!

AFAIK if I had something worth $60,000 and it increased by 40% I would have seen it grow to $84,000 i.e. 40% of 60000 is 24000 not 40000.

So can anyone explain how the news report came to their different conclusion :thinking:
 
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The Post Office is losing money, pension fund is in crisis, and so today (Saturday) at 16:00pm our postie delivered a catalog from Sofa Sofa!
 
...our postie delivered a catalog from Sofa Sofa!
Mass postings are where they get a big chunk of their money. If they relied on what goes into postboxes, these days, I imagine that they'd be considerably more broke than they already are!

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Mass postings are where they get a big chunk of their money. If they relied on what goes into postboxes, these days, I imagine that they'd be considerably more broke than they already are!

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I understand but, he’s driving around in a company van, most likely on overtime, to deliver one letter in the whole street, there’s an opportunity to save a shilling or two.
 
I understand but, he’s driving around in a company van, most likely on overtime, to deliver one letter in the whole street, there’s an opportunity to save a shilling or two.
I am fairly sure that it just doesn't work that way.

About twelve years ago, I worked on upgrades to the Royal Mail sorting systems and so I came to know the volumes for various rounds. Numbers do vary through the year but a typical round will still be in the 1,000s and the guy with the sack still gets out of the van and tramps along the street, when doing domestic addresses. It may have changed a bit since then but chatting to our postie, he still has a pretty heavy bag.
 
The Post Office is losing money, pension fund is in crisis, and so today (Saturday) at 16:00pm our postie delivered a catalog from Sofa Sofa!
The Post Office is owned by the Government
Royal Mail, who deliver stuff, are privately owned
Why should Royal Mail be affected by problems in a separate company ?
 
The Post Office is owned by the Government
Royal Mail, who deliver stuff, are privately owned
Why should Royal Mail be affected by problems in a separate company ?
I thought the Government had a "golden share" interest in Royal Mail and that will persist should the Czech entrepreneur buy the company, thus ensuring (?) he keeps to his commitments?
 
The Post Office is owned by the Government
Royal Mail, who deliver stuff, are privately owned
Why should Royal Mail be affected by problems in a separate company ?
Yes sorry, should have said Royal Mail.
 
WBMT

The BBC World Service Business Program reported that Bitcoin had gone up from $60,000 to $100,000

However, they repeatedly said in the same bulletin that the increase is 40%........ really!

AFAIK if I had something worth $60,000 and it increased by 40% I would have seen it grow to $84,000 i.e. 40% of 60000 is 24000 not 40000.

So can anyone explain how the news report came to their different conclusion :thinking:

Simples! - it is because the writer of the report is an ignoramus.
 
Cocktail bar in Edinburgh banned, someone been naughty there? lol

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Simples! - it is because the writer of the report is an ignoramus.
Frankly, I hope nobody ever figures out a way to wipe every bitcoin server simultaneously...

...the overdose of schadenfreude would probably be too much for my poor old ticker!

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Nothing Scottish flagging up at that time. Were you using a proxy/VPN?

I was using my phone and their free WiFi for customers, I'm wondering if it may not show up as Scotland if their ISP connects down South? I know when I was with BT it would show as Manchester, sometimes other places in England as well. I'm not sure if they were using a VPN though.
 
Frankly, I hope nobody ever figures out a way to wipe every bitcoin server simultaneously...

...the overdose of schadenfreude would probably be too much for my poor old ticker!

I'm not into bitcoin or anything like it but one advantage is that these new currencies are outside of the established banking systems and removed from government control. Just as with gold and other commodities the value of these currencies will rise when people become more nervous about the state of their country or the world in general. With the rise of increasingly controlling authoritarian governments and their arguably damaging and undemocratic agendas (as in... no one voted for THIS... whatever THIS is...) and forever wars and permacrisis everywhere it's no surprise to me that people are looking to hide their assets and protect them from unfriendly governments and world events. And some people just like to gamble.

I see the attraction but I don't understand a word of bitcoin thing and I doubt I ever will.
 
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...but one advantage is that these new currencies are outside of the established banking systems and removed from government control.
You may wish to look up the events of February 1637. October 24 1929 is even more illuminating.

Unregulated trading like BitCoin is all very well, when it's restricted to people playing number games. When real money is involved, it's well past time that the grownups took the toys away and locked them in the cupboard.
 
I was using my phone and their free WiFi for customers, I'm wondering if it may not show up as Scotland if their ISP connects down South? I know when I was with BT it would show as Manchester, sometimes other places in England as well. I'm not sure if they were using a VPN though.
Okay, I've tracked it down. Seems the IP address in question is no longer controlled by the people who abused it, so I've removed it from the block list.
If you ever return to that bar, you should be fine connecting here.
 
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