WBMT.....What baffled me today

Okay, I've tracked it down. Seems the IP address in question is no longer controlled by the people who abused it, so I've removed it from the block list.
If you ever return to that bar, you should be fine connecting here.

Ah, IP pool being reused or something along those lines? I had a few issues of this with CityFibre when logging into Amazon, I had to go through lots of CAPTCHA's - very annoying.

I'll probably not return to be honest, the nibbles were mediocre and the service very poor, but it may help someone else who may visit. :)
 
You may wish to look up the events of February 1637. October 24 1929 is even more illuminating.

Unregulated trading like BitCoin is all very well, when it's restricted to people playing number games. When real money is involved, it's well past time that the grownups took the toys away and locked them in the cupboard.
It just so happens that when I posted (again) about Elon Musk, just now in the Trump thread,about him changing his name on his X platform the article stated that, as a result, cryptocurrency Memecoin (me neither..lol) has soared. I then recalled your post here. For some time I've felt that these cryptocurrencies are akin to Tulip mania which you highlighted (1637) and this has just reinforced that belief. Millionairs have been made from Bitcoin , assuming they sold up and were paid.


From the article re the name change .
"The move has sent ripples through the cryptocurrency world, sending the value of a memecoin - a digital currency inspired by internet memes - that shares the same name skyrocketing. In the past, Mr Musk has influenced crypto prices with his social media commentary, but it was not immediately clear if he had any involvement in this particular memecoin"
 
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You may wish to look up the events of February 1637. October 24 1929 is even more illuminating.

Unregulated trading like BitCoin is all very well, when it's restricted to people playing number games. When real money is involved, it's well past time that the grownups took the toys away and locked them in the cupboard.

And your money will be safer in the bank or invested in the FT100? How many times have we had a financial crash? Care to list the big ones? Or the banks that have failed? Everything is a gamble Andrew and as above some people feel the need to invest in things beyond government control and I do find your attitude strange and not for the first time. Grown ups? Who decides who the grown ups are? PLU? God help us :rolleyes:
 
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It just so happens that when I posted (again) about Elon Musk, just now in the Trump thread,about him changing his name on his X platform the article stated that, as a result, cryptocurrency Memecoin (me neither..lol) has soared. I then recalled your post here. For some time I've felt that these cryptocurrencies are akin to Tulip mania which you highlighted (1637) and this has just reinforced that belief. Millionairs have been made from Bitcoin , assuming they sold up and were paid.


From the article re the name change .
"The move has sent ripples through the cryptocurrency world, sending the value of a memecoin - a digital currency inspired by internet memes - that shares the same name skyrocketing. In the past, Mr Musk has influenced crypto prices with his social media commentary, but it was not immediately clear if he had any involvement in this particular memecoin"

People have made money with various crypto currencies. I'm not and will never be a gambler in them but I do have to say that I've invested money with UK financial advisors several time and on each occasion they lost me money, not enough to matter but they lost it. Contrast that with my own investments which have made me money every single time. You have to go into things with your eyes open and your brain both infirmed and engaged and as they tell you investments may go down as well as up. If investing again I'd definitely do it myself based on past experiences and I couldn't criticise anyone who gives crypto a go. If they are well informed, good luck to them.

Slightly off topic. An ex of mine invested in art and bought some very expensive pieces and she's made a mint. She a very good economist who's skills are in demand worldwide and yet she saw art as a better bet than any bank or institution she was involved with.
 
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It just so happens that when I posted (again) about Elon Musk, just now in the Trump thread,about him changing his name on his X platform the article stated that, as a result, cryptocurrency Memecoin (me neither..lol) has soared. I then recalled your post here. For some time I've felt that these cryptocurrencies are akin to Tulip mania which you highlighted (1637) and this has just reinforced that belief. Millionairs have been made from Bitcoin , assuming they sold up and were paid.


From the article re the name change .
"The move has sent ripples through the cryptocurrency world, sending the value of a memecoin - a digital currency inspired by internet memes - that shares the same name skyrocketing. In the past, Mr Musk has influenced crypto prices with his social media commentary, but it was not immediately clear if he had any involvement in this particular memecoin"
I heard about Musk's activity and that he had used the Frog (Kermit?) avatar........the same one adopted by the extreme right in the USA

As for other events akin to the rise of Bitcoin, what of the South Sea Bubble being one other example?


Those that have made significant money on the staggering rise.......have of course only 'actually' made it when they convert/withdraw it into the "real world". As I see it, the companies and commercial organisations that have started to accept payment in Bitcoin have legitimised the currency aspect. Though that likely would not protect it from a crash.

IMO there are possibly many who have put money in that could not afford to lose it. Having said that if what they put in was fairly modest I surmise 'they" see that as a good investment but how would they view their losses if it crashed ~ their initial modest investment or the accrued much higher figure???
 
And your money will be safer in the bank or invested in the FT100? How many times have we had a financial crash? Care to list the big ones? Or the banks that have failed?
You seem unaware that, in Britain and other countries, there are bank guarantees that protect money up to a certain level. In Britain, the guarantee is run by the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS) which is a free, independent service that protects customers of authorized financial services firms in the UK.

This covers up to £85,000 per person, per UK-regulated financial institution. This includes deposits in current accounts, savings accounts, cash ISAs, and savings bonds. Joint accounts are protected up to £170,000. I've never sat down to calculate how much money this would protect if you really worked at it but you could cover well over £1,000,000, if you do joint investments across several protected organisations.

That's got to be better than losing your shirt to a con man with a silly story about vast gains on an electronic Ponzi scheme...

 
There definitely have been banks that have failed in the not too distant past.
This is true.

Which is why the government has set up schemes, like the one I mention above, to cushion the wiser investor.
 
People have made money with various crypto currencies. I'm not and will never be a gambler in them but I do have to say that I've invested money with UK financial advisors several time and on each occasion they lost me money, not enough to matter but they lost it. Contrast that with my own investments which have made me money every single time. You have to go into things with your eyes open and your brain both infirmed and engaged and as they tell you investments may go down as well as up. If investing again I'd definitely do it myself based on past experiences and I couldn't criticise anyone who gives crypto a go. If they are well informed, good luck to them.

Slightly off topic. An ex of mine invested in art and bought some very expensive pieces and she's made a mint. She a very good economist who's skills are in demand worldwide and yet she saw art as a better bet than any bank or institution she was involved with.
Someone on here,several years ago, when shares were mentioned, said it's just a form of gambling. I disagreed because it's an investment and usually comes with a divi. Yes, shares can go down as well as up, as you mentioned, but with FTSE 100 shares with a solid history if they go down you just wait until they go back up. It's well known that, in the long run, shares outperform deposit accounts. To me gambling is when you place a bet on something, like a horse or a lottery ticket which if it loses so will you. There's no waiting for it "to win." Of course it has to be money that you don't need or are likely not to need...and who knows what's round the corner ?.. and can afford to lose. The "don't need" aspect seems more relevent because an investor may have to wait a good while longer than he/she anticipated before selling at a profit.If someone can't afford to lose an investment sum then they shouldn't be investing.

I just checked Bitcoin. £78,522.20 that's up £3035 today.. :eek: 50 million people own Bitcoin.About a million own one Bitcoin.
Users on the BitcoinTalk forum traded 5,050 bitcoins for $5.02 via PayPal, making the first price mediated through an exchange a bargain basement price of $0.00099 per bitcoin.

From a November article: "If you had purchased $20 in Bitcoins from an online forum in 2009 you might have been able to buy over 20,000 Bitcoins. Since a single Bitcoin is worth around $70,000 today, your $20 purchase would have turned into an astounding $1.4 billion!"
I've read that there are people who bought back in 2009/2010 who still hold them. I wonder how much capital gains tax they'd have to pay ?


Re your ex... I've also read that buying the right piece of art is a good investement. As ever, it's very important to be familiar with what you're investing in and I know nothing about cryptocurrencies nor art values an d importantly, recognising fakes.
 
Since a single Bitcoin is worth around $70,000 today, your $20 purchase would have turned into an astounding $1.4 billion!"
I pointed out earlier that Bitcoin and it's ilk are Ponzi schemes and like all such things will leave the naive massively out of pocket, when it finally crashes.

This article talks about what is really happening and the propensity for chaos built into these pseudo currencies,,,

 
Someone on here,several years ago, when shares were mentioned, said it's just a form of gambling. I disagreed because it's an investment and usually comes with a divi. Yes, shares can go down as well as up, as you mentioned, but with FTSE 100 shares with a solid history if they go down you just wait until they go back up. It's well known that, in the long run, shares outperform deposit accounts. To me gambling is when you place a bet on something, like a horse or a lottery ticket which if it loses so will you. There's no waiting for it "to win." Of course it has to be money that you don't need or are likely not to need...and who knows what's round the corner ?.. and can afford to lose. The "don't need" aspect seems more relevent because an investor may have to wait a good while longer than he/she anticipated before selling at a profit.If someone can't afford to lose an investment sum then they shouldn't be investing.

I just checked Bitcoin. £78,522.20 that's up £3035 today.. :eek: 50 million people own Bitcoin.About a million own one Bitcoin.
Users on the BitcoinTalk forum traded 5,050 bitcoins for $5.02 via PayPal, making the first price mediated through an exchange a bargain basement price of $0.00099 per bitcoin.

From a November article: "If you had purchased $20 in Bitcoins from an online forum in 2009 you might have been able to buy over 20,000 Bitcoins. Since a single Bitcoin is worth around $70,000 today, your $20 purchase would have turned into an astounding $1.4 billion!"
I've read that there are people who bought back in 2009/2010 who still hold them. I wonder how much capital gains tax they'd have to pay ?


Re your ex... I've also read that buying the right piece of art is a good investement. As ever, it's very important to be familiar with what you're investing in and I know nothing about cryptocurrencies nor art values an d importantly, recognising fakes.

I pointed out earlier that Bitcoin and it's ilk are Ponzi schemes and like all such things will leave the naive massively out of pocket, when it finally crashes.

This article talks about what is really happening and the propensity for chaos built into these pseudo currencies,,,


I think I recall hearing a program that spoke about that there are a finite number of Bitcoins i.e. the mining(?) will only last so long...,..now if true what next when mining ceases?

Will the value go up or will the market self destruct???

In regard to those who on paper have a fortune accrued. What would happen if enough of those high millionaires & billionaires cashed in........would that in some manner create a "run on the bank" and "it" could run out of money. Therefore, how is the value protected with the interest of it's 'members' in mind.
 
Therefore, how is the value protected with the interest of it's 'members' in mind.
It isn't.

It has no security, nothing backing it. And if you ask the bloke who sold it to you, you'll be lucky to get...

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In 1971, a young Michael Caine was relaxing at home with a friend, their evening interrupted by the usual parade of TV commercials. Suddenly, a Maxwell House Coffee ad caught his attention. Just as his friend was about to change the channel, Michael froze, captivated by a stunning woman in the background. She wasn’t just beautiful—she was mesmerizing, leaving him completely spellbound.
Determined to find this mystery woman, Michael launched an obsessive search. Convinced she was in Brazil, he called Maxwell House repeatedly and even purchased plane tickets to start his quest. But fate intervened. A mutual acquaintance revealed that the enchanting model was actually living in London. Her name was Shakira, a striking beauty from Guyana.
Driven by infatuation, Michael tracked down her number and persistently called until she agreed to meet. Their connection was instant and profound. It wasn’t long before they were married, beginning a journey of love and companionship that has lasted over five decades.
Now, after 51 years together, Michael and Shakira share a beautiful life and a daughter, Natasha. At 91, Michael and 77-year-old Shakira stand as a testament to the power of fate, determination, and enduring love


I guess these days it would be called stalking? :p
 
There's a fine line between pursuit and stalking. Having had to help someone who was being stalked to manage their situation.
 
In 1971, a young Michael Caine was relaxing at home with a friend, their evening interrupted by the usual parade of TV commercials. Suddenly, a Maxwell House Coffee ad caught his attention. Just as his friend was about to change the channel, Michael froze, captivated by a stunning woman in the background. She wasn’t just beautiful—she was mesmerizing, leaving him completely spellbound.
Determined to find this mystery woman, Michael launched an obsessive search. Convinced she was in Brazil, he called Maxwell House repeatedly and even purchased plane tickets to start his quest. But fate intervened. A mutual acquaintance revealed that the enchanting model was actually living in London. Her name was Shakira, a striking beauty from Guyana.
Driven by infatuation, Michael tracked down her number and persistently called until she agreed to meet. Their connection was instant and profound. It wasn’t long before they were married, beginning a journey of love and companionship that has lasted over five decades.
Now, after 51 years together, Michael and Shakira share a beautiful life and a daughter, Natasha. At 91, Michael and 77-year-old Shakira stand as a testament to the power of fate, determination, and enduring love


I guess these days it would be called stalking? :p
Your post reminds me of when we visited a shop in a nearby town and as we were wandering around, who walked but Michael & Shakira Caine..................and no we did not approach them for an autograph. NB this was around 10 years ago :thinking:

We live near Guildford and this part of Surrey has numerous personalities in the area including once we saw Philip Hammond MP in Sainsburys.......a few others spotted over the years.
 
Last night booked flights with Qatar Airways to Thailand, we're going for 3 weeks and flying out on Easter Saturday... When I was checking checking flight prices I noticed there was a £146 price difference between the prices quoted, depending on if I was logged in on my frequent flyer account or Mrs Fiends!!!

It didn't matter whether it was using Firefox, Chrome or the Qatar Airways app, they all came up showing the same price difference!!! Obviously I booked the flights using the cheaper option with Mrs Fiends account...

Looking forward to yet another Qatar Airways A380 flight DOH-BKK, and thanks to the saving I made by booking under Mrs Fiends account I decided to pay extra and pre-book seats in the small upper deck economy section which is 2-4-2 seating rather than the 3-4-3 of the lower deck...
 
LOL..... Just had another one.... After booking our flights I then went ahead and booked airport parking. I always book Jetparks at Manchester Airport as you get to keep your keys. It was only showing availability at Jetparks 3 and not Jetparks Ringway which is the one I've been using recently. I thought it might be down to it being the Easter holidays . So I booked 22 days parking for £140 at Jetparks 3...

This morning after receiving an email from one of the booking agents I've used I decided price to check against what I paid last night and the quotes were now showing availability at Jetparks Ringway.... When I double checked on my original booking site, not only was it now showing Jetparks Ringway parking availability but also the prices were a little bit cheaper than 10 hours before, including at Jetparks 3.... Thanks to there being no cancellation fees I cancelled my original booking and then booked my preferred parking place and made a saving of £7... :):):)
 
I ordered two items online from different sources. Both delivered today with the same post van. Delivery instructions were to place the items in my mail box at the end of the drive, next to the road. If the item was too large, then to be left outside my front door. Both items fit in the box, but as they were delivered together, there wasn't room for both. So what did the postman do? Left one in the mailbox then walked 40 metres up the drive and left the other outside my door. Why not leave them both outside the door? Duh!
 
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I ordered two items online from different sources. Both delivered today with the same post van. Delivery instructions were to place the items in my mail box at the end of the drive, next to the road. If the item was too large, then to be left outside my front door. Both items fit in the box, but as they were delivered together, there wasn't room for both. So what did the postman do? Left one in the mailbox then walked up the drive and left the other outside my door. Why not leave them both outside the door? Duh!
That's why he's a postman and not a Rocket Scientist :LOL:
 
WBMT is that a payment to the DVLA (car tax) needed verification. Then again, I don't trust them any more than my CC company do!
 
WBMT is that a payment to the DVLA (car tax) needed verification. Then again, I don't trust them any more than my CC company do!
It’s probably the amount rather than the payee. There certainly seems to be a certain trigger amount on our c/c that then needs a verification. Sometimes it’s if you’re paying someone new or a non-regular payee.
I suppose it’s worth the hassle ultimately if it makes your c/c account safer.
 
It’s probably the amount rather than the payee. There certainly seems to be a certain trigger amount on our c/c that then needs a verification. Sometimes it’s if you’re paying someone new or a non-regular payee.
I suppose it’s worth the hassle ultimately if it makes your c/c account safer.
For those who wish to know, the rules on Bank transfers are here...


and here...


...with some new stuff here...

 
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It’s probably the amount rather than the payee. There certainly seems to be a certain trigger amount on our c/c that then needs a verification. Sometimes it’s if you’re paying someone new or a non-regular payee.
I suppose it’s worth the hassle ultimately if it makes your c/c account safer.


Possibly but I've made much larger payments that have gone through without needing verification. The DVLA are an all too regular payee!
 
I had to call my bank to ask if the message I got when I logged in was genuiune or was it a scam. I screen-grabbed it.. It.read.Heading "Confirm your details" We're required to confirm the details of our members to help keep you and your accounts safe online.

Every few years we are required to verify accounts and require you to answer the following questions. Failure to do so within a certain time period will result in your account being closed"
If you need to contact us ? Call +44...etc...This isn't the usual customer care number.

They know what gets paid in and where it's from and what my outgoings are. On page one I had to fill in my personal details.On page two was asked how much income I had..before tax and national insurance and where that income came from. Next. "Do I use my account to pay..bills, transfer money..a few more options and the one I chose...'everything'. The next page asked about my net income again. I then made my call to customer care but not using the phone number on the page re advice. I went to the website and used that one. Yes. It was genuine. Ok,I said, I'll fill the rest in. The lady said "You've already filled most of it in,do you want to finish now over the phone. ?

I recall reading a long time ago that when a form is being filled in online after page one it's sent to the source requesting it so, if pages 2 and three are completed then the person decided not to go any further the source will get pages 1,2 and 3 anyway. I hesistated but said yes.How many accounts did I have..ie savings E-Account etc. Was I likely to get any deposits ? None of them applied but the lady said she had to tick a box. I asked her to check the "gift" option. She said the next question is "who from". I can't say because I'm not expecting a gift.. She then helpfully suggested I tick internal 'account to account' Eg current to a savings account. ..eg . Brillaint..lol.

That was it. Has anyone else experienced this ? Is it really about money laundering ,maybe ? It can't be HMRC, I'd get a letter from them. A mystery. I've been with them for about 40 years.
 
I filled out the same form week, it had been nagging me when logging in for a couple of weeks before that. It did strike as idiocy when asking who employer was, um let me see how about the only company that have paid money in ever month since I opened the account???
 
I filled out the same form week, it had been nagging me when logging in for a couple of weeks before that. It did strike as idiocy when asking who employer was, um let me see how about the only company that have paid money in ever month since I opened the account???
Maybe someone will have an answer.
 
I recall reading a long time ago that when a form is being filled in online after page one it's sent to the source requesting it so, if pages 2 and three are completed then the person decided not to go any further the source will get pages 1,2 and 3 anyway.
Doesn't even have to be a full page. Depending on how that page is coded, it can send every field once it's completed, or even every character as you type it.

Often used in Live Chat software, so the person you're chatting to can see what you're typing and be choosing a response even before you hit "Send".
 
This truly baffles me. When I bring our wheelie/recycle bins in I end up picking up what the bin men dropped beside the bins of our neighbours as well as ours as they emptied them .What is it that prevents them from picking up the stuff that has clearly come from their bin/boxes ? We're detached so the bins are quite a few metres apart .It must surely be more than idleness ? It happened again this morning. Infact,I had to do a litter pick along the 15m-wide verge across the road,too for about 50m each way along the verge because the high winds overnight takes plastics off the top of the recycle boxes that don't have lids on or the supplied elasticated plastic covers .Same applies to the cardboard/paper large plastic carrier bag. If only people would do their bit.
 
I had to call my bank to ask if the message I got when I logged in was genuiune or was it a scam. I screen-grabbed it.. It.read.Heading "Confirm your details" We're required to confirm the details of our members to help keep you and your accounts safe online.

Every few years we are required to verify accounts and require you to answer the following questions. Failure to do so within a certain time period will result in your account being closed"
If you need to contact us ? Call +44...etc...This isn't the usual customer care number.

They know what gets paid in and where it's from and what my outgoings are. On page one I had to fill in my personal details.On page two was asked how much income I had..before tax and national insurance and where that income came from. Next. "Do I use my account to pay..bills, transfer money..a few more options and the one I chose...'everything'. The next page asked about my net income again. I then made my call to customer care but not using the phone number on the page re advice. I went to the website and used that one. Yes. It was genuine. Ok,I said, I'll fill the rest in. The lady said "You've already filled most of it in,do you want to finish now over the phone. ?

I recall reading a long time ago that when a form is being filled in online after page one it's sent to the source requesting it so, if pages 2 and three are completed then the person decided not to go any further the source will get pages 1,2 and 3 anyway. I hesistated but said yes.How many accounts did I have..ie savings E-Account etc. Was I likely to get any deposits ? None of them applied but the lady said she had to tick a box. I asked her to check the "gift" option. She said the next question is "who from". I can't say because I'm not expecting a gift.. She then helpfully suggested I tick internal 'account to account' Eg current to a savings account. ..eg . Brillaint..lol.

That was it. Has anyone else experienced this ? Is it really about money laundering ,maybe ? It can't be HMRC, I'd get a letter from them. A mystery. I've been with them for about 40 years.
Sounds like Know Your Customer / due diligence stuff.

Could be somethings happened on your account that got the financial crime team interested. If you're not doing owt wrong don't worry.
 
Sounds like Know Your Customer / due diligence stuff.

Could be somethings happened on your account that got the financial crime team interested. If you're not doing owt wrong don't worry.
Yes. I think you're right. Housekeeping. I certainly don't do anything untoward as I'm just a simple, honest soul :D
 
Last September my tax return was logged as self employed(I’m retired) and I was informed I was due them £280 ish payable by cheque by tomorrow, queried this and two weeks later another letter arrived enclosing a cheque as it turns out I’d overpaid and a new tax coding, yay.
This morning another letter, another tax code-much lower- and informing me that due to bank interest ESTIMATES I was due £980 in unpaid tax for 24/25 to be repaid next year in monthly instalments. How can they calculate tax when using estimates, obviously from previous years when interest rates were higher, and before I bunged as much as possible into isa’s for both of us, and, last month I got a letter confirming that I was no longer due a payment to them before 31st Jan as I was up to date. Going to wait for 25/26 tax code to appear before speaking to them as it seems they don’t know their e**e from their e***w, just in case it changes again.
 
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Last September my tax return was logged as self employed(I’m retired) and I was informed I was due them £280 ish payable by cheque by tomorrow, queried this and two weeks later another letter arrived enclosing a cheque as it turns out I’d overpaid and a new tax coding, yay.
This morning another letter, another tax code-much lower- and informing me that due to bank interest ESTIMATES I was due £980 in unpaid tax for 24/25 to be repaid next year in monthly instalments. How can they calculate tax when using estimates, obviously from previous years when interest rates were higher, and before I bunged as much as possible into isa’s for both of us, and, last month I got a letter confirming that I was no longer due a payment to them before 31st Jan as I was up to date. Going to wait for 25/26 tax code to appear before speaking to them as it seems they don’t know their e**e from their e***w, just in case it changes again.

Welcome to the wonderful world of dealing with HMRC.

I had to call them this morning regarding SA, 45 min queue which is to be expected on 30th Jan, but alas they are still employing people with a terrible grasp of the English language which is amplified when it also involves a Scottish accent.
 
I reached an impasse with one call last year neither of us could understand the other, rep transferred my call to another dept and got through to a Scottish branch, all good from there in. Wife worked for a finance company who’s head office was in Bradford, she could spend ages on what should have been a simple enquiry because of the language barrier, some call handlers would get upset when asked to get someone who could understand English on the phone, even when company directors visited her branch they would agree it was a problem experienced across the country when calling Bradford.
 
I reached an impasse with one call last year neither of us could understand the other, rep transferred my call to another dept and got through to a Scottish branch, all good from there in. Wife worked for a finance company who’s head office was in Bradford, she could spend ages on what should have been a simple enquiry because of the language barrier, some call handlers would get upset when asked to get someone who could understand English on the phone, even when company directors visited her branch they would agree it was a problem experienced across the country when calling Bradford.

It's really not good enough. So it turns out that as predicated the lady I somewhat communicated with yesterday gave completely duff advice and I'm back on the phone waiting to get through again. Fun and games.... :rolleyes:
 
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WBMT? Why does my wife iron the tea towel’s?
 
I just showed this^ to my wife, “if you think I’m going to start” was as far as she got before I laughed, then ran away.
 
It's really not good enough. So it turns out that as predicated the lady I somewhat communicated with yesterday gave completely duff advice and I'm back on the phone waiting to get through again. Fun and games.... :rolleyes:
It is a problem in a country where wokeness has replaced commonsense.

I did a stint at a telecoms company, which will remain nameless to protect the guilty. A permanent colleague was active in one of the unions and was selected to go to a management / staff discussion group. Asked if there was anything he wished to raise, he put forward a proposal that the company employ speech therapists, to help people with strong accents communicate better with their colleagues and customers.

It went down like the proverbial lead balloon... :headbang:
 
It is a problem in a country where wokeness has replaced commonsense.

I did a stint at a telecoms company, which will remain nameless to protect the guilty. A permanent colleague was active in one of the unions and was selected to go to a management / staff discussion group. Asked if there was anything he wished to raise, he put forward a proposal that the company employ speech therapists, to help people with strong accents communicate better with their colleagues and customers.

It went down like the proverbial lead balloon... :headbang:

It's one of the things I really hated when I was with Virgin for my internet and TV and I would dread having to call them. Same with BT these days, although with many of these big corps I have found that if you can get through to the next level tech it's night and day.
 
WBMT was reading about a Canadian women who, whilst in shallow water off a beach in the Turks and Caicos Islands, sees a shark and rather than get the hell out attempts to take a selfie.

It has been determined that the tourist had attempted to engage with the animal from the shallows in an attempt to take photographs,” the authorities said.
I wonder if the camera is OK...
 
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