WAMT....what annoyed me today!

Having spent plenty of years in the licensed trade, I can't help wondering when boozer holidays will be introduced...
 
Sandisc external ssd drive packed up only bought it in November
Amazon will refund just got to send it back pain in the butt but luckily I hadn’t wiped the camera memory card , I always wait until everything is backed up properly
I’ll get a Samsung one thier drives have always been excellent
Didn’t lose any work everything is backed up
 
ancient_mariner said:
I need to apologise - John, that was a bit strong, and I'm sorry.

I had just read this https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/4/9/how-death-and-despair-haunt-pakistans-christian-minority and this https://www.aljazeera.com/features/...olence-against-christians-is-being-normalised and your post made me see red. As is usual, the problem isn't any kind of faith, but rather very ordinary politics and human-centric tribal behaviour wrapped in a covering of religion to justify the actions.
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I missed this post,Toni. Yes, it was strong..not like you, atall and thanks for the apology...appreciated. I see a few more have now voiced their misgivings about religion, notably Andrew F.

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Just to say @JohnC6 I notice your post and in line with forum rules I shall not continue discussion in this thread about this topic with you.
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I'm sorry to see you don't feel you can engage with me without risking breaking the etiquette rules in light of how angry my comments, in particular, make you . So, it works out well for both of us,really You don't get angry and I won't be risking making you feel like that. Hopefully, we can still engage in conversation on other matters as I value your contributions.
 
I was brought up as a Catholic, but I struggle with the whole religion thing as I am a logigical, practical person. I know God didn't make us, and I know the bible is a number of fables rolled into one book. However, I still like to think I am a principled, polite and (within reason) generous person who believes that you should treat people who you, yourself would expect to be treated. That, I believe is just being a decent human being, but there are many who don't give a toss of anyone else.
 
JohnC6 said:
I'm sorry to see you don't feel you can engage with me without risking breaking the etiquette rules in light of how angry my comments, in particular, make you
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No I'm not angry like that now. But discussion of religion is not normally permitted outside of hot topics, and we have already pushed well beyond the normally accepted boundaries.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
Without pretending to speak for John, I think what he complains about is the hypocrisy of many "believers".

All religions, with the possible exception of some tribal groups, claim to promote kindness and care for one another. Unfortunately, the actions of many adherents, most obviously the leadership, are at odds with that claim. The reality is that most faiths have promoted or at least, supported, vicious and gendocidal violence, The two most obvious culprits have been Christianity and Islam, although even Bhudists have got in on the act from time to time. In America, Christianity now seems to stand entirely for the burning cross and the oppression of women. :(

This does not mean that there are no decent people among them; I have met several from all faiths. Unfortunately, such people are almost always modest and unwilling to call their religious fellows to account. I have sometimes wondered whether the solution is for all religions to demand that their followers be their leaders' keepers, rather than follow blindly.
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Re the hypocrisy angle ..it's not really that aspect that causes me to be so hostile but, and you have mentioned it.. it's what they do to each other and especially the imposition of 'rules' for want of a better expression and tbh..mainly in relation to children..especially children who are indoctrinated from a very early age and women, who are treated as second class citizens...even in the Church of England and Catholic church..it's not just Islam. I've given examples several times in the past so I won't re-iterate them. We're here only once..we don't get a second chance we should all be free of any 'shackles' and organised religion imposes shackles in one way or another and fill the heads of children with utter nonsense.

You mentioned Buddhists and their viloence. Latest atrocity. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-65238250
 
ancient_mariner said:
No I'm not angry like that now. But discussion of religion is not normally permitted outside of hot topics, and we have already pushed well beyond the normally accepted boundaries.
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I'd agree with that. I expected it to be moved to HT tbh. I felt a bit uncomfortable with it in The Lounge but it's been left here. I was ,originally, just having a moan at the incomprehensible laws re retail based on the size of a shop's floor space knowing it was subject to the Sunday Trading laws. Other anomalies, too. We went into a store in London one day at 9.30am.. it was open but we couldn't pay for anything until until 10.00am so we just had to 'look round' It was a store like John Lewis. The thread has taken on a life of its own.
 
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Agreed, and TBH, I guess that's my fault, I sometimes forget what forum I'm looking at, and thought it was in HT.
It'll probably be largely incomprehensible, if I try and split it, but I'll take a look at the possibility.
Some are easy, others not so much, enough to make them make sense.
The best thing to do is to drop the subject on both sides.
Or if you must start a thread in HT.
 
Cobra said:
I don't understand his almost rabid attack on religion either.
I'm not a religious person, but I don't want to be shopping on Christmas day, I have family to spend time with.
If I cocked up and run out of anything, the local Indian guy will be open.
As for Easter, same as above, but the smaller Tesco's are open anyway.

Banks shut on "bank holidays", and Sundays too,
Bank holidays originated back in 1871 Granted the shops are mostly open ( here anyway)
But most bank holidays align with religious festivals particularly the Catholic faith, across the continent.
And I don't see anyone getting upset about those.
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I've just responded to Andrew F about where my antagonism comes from. I think Christianity in this country has lost Christmas Day to all and sundry. Easter is just a chance to get away for a break or just stay at home and chill out. My wife likes to have a Christmas tree and she has no religious belief. Can you imagine her delight when she went into a local store and bought one in Christmas week or January 2nd.. that was £162 before Christmas and paid only £22 .The lady on the till checked it was the right price and was amazed. The base of one we'd had had broken a few years and I got superglue on it .lol. but this last time a leg broke again and it almost fell over.

I suppose if I didn't feel so ill towards religions the closure of the supermarkets would have just gone over my head as an inconvenience as it has for most on here. To me it was just yet another imposition by the church. Did you know that a recent survey found that jurors tended not to believe a defendant (or a witness,I assume) who opts to affirm rather than swear the oath on the Bible. https://www.scottishlegal.com/artic...r-by-god-in-court-as-more-likely-to-be-guilty

This is in the article "Even worse... The research, led by Royal Holloway, University of London, was conducted in stages, with the first two initial studies finding that people associate the religious oath with credible testimony; and that people, especially those who are religious, are biased against defendants who choose instead to affirm. Bear in mind that the
Bible contains many accounts of murder, rape, genocide, human sacrifice, animal sacrifice etc. The Book of Judges is worst. A tent peg ends up getting hammered through someone’s head. The tribe of Dan slaughters the peaceful people of Laish and builds a pagan temple in their new city. An Israelite woman gets sexually abused by the Israelites who are then destroyed by the other tribes who regret their violence and make the young women of another tribe pay the price.

Re Southern Baptists (US) and Born Again (??) Christians think corporal punishment is acceptable, it's the norm and they get it from Bible "Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them."

Re you not understanding why I feel so much hostility you'd have to ask the same question of those philosophers I quoted, and others of the same mind along with Richard Dawkins, the late Christopher Hitchens,Sam Harris,etc They all just saw it for what it really is.

Can we call it a day on this topic ? It's had more than a good run and, agreeing with Toni, I was surprised it wasn't moved to HT.
 
Cobra said:
Agreed, and TBH, I guess that's my fault, I sometimes forget what forum I'm looking at, and thought it was in HT.
It'll probably be largely incomprehensible, if I try and split it, but I'll take a look at the possibility.
Some are easy, others not so much, enough to make them make sense.
The best thing to do is to drop the subject on both sides.
Or if you must start a thread in HT.
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You hadn't posted this when I started my response to you. I've just seen it after posting it.

Yes..let's knock it on the head :)
 
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Been there, done that and had to ride 200 miles home with a helmet on on the Monday.
 
Nod said:
Been there, done that and had to ride 200 miles home with a helmet on on the Monday.
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Nothing worse than a helmet on a burnt head... except may be a wasp under the visor :LOL:
 
Tigger.ufo said:
... or a burnt helmet ...
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I was pretty unusual in the 1960s as I wore one of the early full visor helmets on my scooter and this gave rise to a certain amount of amusement.

I had the last laugh, though, when I came off at top speed (something like 45MPH) thanks to a prune in a van and skidded along the road, face down, for several yards. Without the helmet, I'd have been in serious trouble but with it protecting my face, I lost nothing but my dignity.
 
Amazon.....

I wanted some self amalgamating tape, which I have bought from Amazon one before about a year or so ago. When I selected the product, and said "buy", the page transitioned as usual, except this time it had signed me up for a monthly subscription automatically, so I had to click "one time only" to get out of it. People will be caught out with this behaviour....
 
Tigger.ufo said:
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Happened to a chap I used to know. Long haul flight, a couple of drinks on arrival followed by a spot of sunbathing on a naturist beach. Factor 15 wasn't enough on the parts less often exposed to the Caribbean sun... His new wife was NOT impressed that their honeymoon didn't involve as much horizontal jogging as she was planning!!!
 
WPMROT?
April showers, including hailstones, every time I tried to get a few bits done, in the garden,
down it came and I got rained off.
I've given up now, and the sun is shining, but I daren't go out there, I know what will happen. :rolleyes:
 
Cobra said:
WPMROT?
April showers, including hailstones, every time I tried to get a few bits done, in the garden,
down it came and I got rained off.
I've given up now, and the sun is shining, but I daren't go out there, I know what will happen. :rolleyes:
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Put some waterproofs on.. it won't rain then :exit::D
 
Works every time on the course!
 
Just unreliable and low quality tradesmen.

We wanted four new internal doors fitting and painting upstairs and three existing doors sanding and painting downstairs. I know this sounds simple and anyone can do it :D but I look after someone and it's not easy so I thought I'd get the professionals in and just let them get on with it whilst I do the day to day stuff.

I got a company in and they gave a quote and I said "fine" but they never turned up. So I got another company in and they fitted the four new doors but they never turned up to do the painting. I hadn't paid them for the painting so I didn't bother calling them as I thought they're obviously not interested. So I got a painter and decorator in to do the sanding and painting and he's just gone after painting the new doors upstairs and is due back on Saturday to sand and paint the three remaining doors. When he'd gone I went to see what he's done and there are multiple paint runs on all four doors. Honestly, I could have done better myself but the point was to carry on with the caring duties and let a professional do it.

So, he's coming back on Saturday and I'm pretty sure he'll turn up as he hasn't been paid. I think I'll ask him if he's finished with the new doors and if he says he hasn't then I let him get on with it after politely asking him if he can take care of the paint runs but if he says he's finished I'll just tell him things have changed and I'm too busy, pay him for what he's done and call it a day.

I just think it's so hard to get a decent job done even if you can find someone. It's just extra stress and hassle and depression.

PS.
Taking care of the paint runs... as far as I can see they'll have to be scraped/sanded and painted again. Like I said, I could have done better myself.
 
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woof woof said:
Just unreliable and low quality tradesmen.

We wanted four new internal doors fitting and painting upstairs and three existing doors sanding and painting downstairs. I know this sounds simple and anyone can do it :D but I look after someone and it's not easy so I thought I'd get the professionals in and just let them get on with it whilst I do the day to day stuff.

I got a company in and they gave a quote and I said "fine" but they never turned up. So I got another company in and they fitted the four new doors but they never turned up to do the painting. I hadn't paid them for the painting so I didn't bother calling them as I thought they're obviously not interested. So I got a painter and decorator in to do the sanding and painting and he's just gone after painting the new doors upstairs and is due back on Saturday to sand and paint the three remaining doors. When he'd gone I went to see what he's done and there are multiple paint runs on all four doors. Honestly, I could have done better myself but the point was to carry on with the caring duties and let a professional do it.

So, he's coming back on Saturday and I'm pretty sure he'll turn up as he hasn't been paid. I think I'll ask him if he's finished with the new doors and if he says he hasn't then I let him get on with it after politely asking him if he can take care of the paint runs but if he says he's finished I'll just tell him things have changed and I'm too busy, pay him for what he's done and call it a day.

I just think it's so hard to get a decent job done even if you can find someone. It's just extra stress and hassle and depression.

PS.
Taking care of the paint runs... as far as I can see they'll have to be scraped/sanded and painted again. Like I said, I could have done better myself.
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I'm pretty crap at DIY so when I GSI (Get Someone In) I expect it to be of a better quality than my own. We had an issue a number of years ago of a local P&D company, the owner was great, but he left a complete idiot to paint the house, and he put the wrong colour on the walls, and watered down the paint so much on the ceiling it was obviously patchy. I called the owner who came in, looked at the mess, apologised and fired the guy on the spot. He got his brother to re-do it and it was brilliant...
 
Paint is not what it used to be now it's all water based.

Gloss now runs faster than Usain Bolt and Satin chips by just looking at it.

Also Brilliant White only lasts a day.

I had some 10year guaranteed Exterior paint that has cracked and peeled after just a year, but it does get the full Sun for most of the day (but not so far this year)
 
Well I had a horrible phone call last night and an email this morning that is really stressing me out, can't really say what it is but sadly it will either end up with me having another heart attack or or maybe even locked up. All I have ever done is carry out Mums wishes, but I will slowly plod on till whatever happens. :mad::mad:
 
Wamt-he other day.
When I buy from Amazon, I usually go for next day prime, and fulfilled by Amazon.
This time they lied, it seems its in the hands of royal mail and running late.
this happened before, it got lost, I did get a refund.
The worse bit is I have to wait 7 clear days before I can get refund.

Next day prime is becoming not worth the paper its written on ..
 
Fuji Dave said:
Well I had a horrible phone call last night and an email this morning that is really stressing me out, can't really say what it is but sadly it will either end up with me having another heart attack or or maybe even locked up. All I have ever done is carry out Mums wishes, but I will slowly plod on till whatever happens. :mad::mad:
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Hope you manage to work through it, Dave.

Dave
 
Fuji Dave said:
At the moment I can't see it ending well ie either stripped of POA and locked up sadly. My head is all over the place right now and can't see a way out.
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That's NOT good -is there any help you can get or legal advice?
 
seaodyssey said:
Paint is not what it used to be now it's all water based.

Gloss now runs faster than Usain Bolt and Satin chips by just looking at it.

Also Brilliant White only lasts a day.

I had some 10year guaranteed Exterior paint that has cracked and peeled after just a year, but it does get the full Sun for most of the day (but not so far this year)
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You can still get oil based paint. Where? At trade shops, or the trade counter! I always buy oil based paint, because the "new environmentally friendly" stuff is useless and has to be re-done just about every year. (Don't ask how I know this) It doesn't seem to protect the wood at all and leads to rotten doors and windows! How can it be environmentally friendly to have to keep re-painting and replacing wooden or metal doors and windows? I used to survey hospitals that were Victorian, which had original doors, windows and fittings that were in excellent condition. Similarly, the plumbing fittings could be repaired, rather than replaced (being brass, with replaceable parts). Progress???
 
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Cobra said:
Wamt-he other day.
When I buy from Amazon, I usually go for next day prime, and fulfilled by Amazon.
This time they lied, it seems its in the hands of royal mail and running late.
this happened before, it got lost, I did get a refund.
The worse bit is I have to wait 7 clear days before I can get refund.

Next day prime is becoming not worth the paper its written on ..
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I agree, the stuff I ordered yesterday for "next day" says "before 10pm". Where I come from, that's the next night, not day. I'm out all day tomorrow and I need what I ordered to do some work before tomorrow....
 
Jelster said:
the stuff I ordered yesterday for "next day" says "before 10pm".
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That's what this one said, and now it seems it's lost.
I hope you have better luck (y)
 
DIY retailer websites (Homebase, B&q, screwfix, toolstation, robert dyas, Wilko, etc) suddenly being full of the same items only for despatch via a third party…I am trying to find a suitable item in stock for click and collect, or in store purchase, not delivery in a weeks time…
 
seaodyssey said:
Paint is not what it used to be now it's all water based.

Gloss now runs faster than Usain Bolt and Satin chips by just looking at it.

Also Brilliant White only lasts a day.

I had some 10year guaranteed Exterior paint that has cracked and peeled after just a year, but it does get the full Sun for most of the day (but not so far this year)
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Well, he left the remains of a tin and I have to say that I seem to be able to paint better than him. No runs. Plus one door wont close and two are sticking so there's a lot to be undone and done again. Tradesman? Not IMHO. I binned him off today and just paid for what he's already done. It will all have to be redone though as he did a **** job.
 
Pixbarmy said:
A Grade 2 listed building near to me ending up looking like something out of Las Vegas!
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It doesn't look too bad from what I can see on Google Maps - admittedly not a lot.

Anyway, a grade 2 listing isn't a big deal...

Listed buildings are to be enjoyed and used, like any other building. Listed buildings can be altered, extended and sometimes even demolished within government planning guidance. The local authority uses listed building consent to make decisions that balance the site's historic significance against other issues, such as its function, condition or viability.

historicengland.org.uk

What are Listed Buildings? How England's historic buildings are protected | Historic England

How and why we list buildings and what it means for the people who own them.
historicengland.org.uk historicengland.org.uk
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Out on my electric bike, maximum speed of 15.5 mph. Being overtaken by an electric scooter doing 25 mph! And he was in the road!
 
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