WAMT....what annoyed me today!

woof woof said:
"It looks like you can afford any car we sell."
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Similar happened to a Chinese friend some years ago,
He was looking at a new 911, in a show room.
He was dressed in jeans and T-Shirt,
started to ask questions of the "floating" salesman.
The salesmen responded with something like "I doubt that sir could afford any of our cars.

He put his hand in his pockets and pulled out a massive and I mean massive wad of notes,
and said not your lucky day is it? and walked out.

He was from a very wealthy Chinese family, and it was to be a birthday present, to him, from his parents.
Never judge a book by the cover as they say.
 
Cobra said:
Similar happened to a Chinese friend some years ago,
He was looking at a new 911, in a show room.
He was dressed in jeans and T-Shirt,
started to ask questions of the "floating" salesman.
The salesmen responded with something like "I doubt that sir could afford any of our cars.

He put his hand in his pockets and pulled out a massive and I mean massive wad of notes,
and said not your lucky day is it? and walked out.

He was from a very wealthy Chinese family, and it was to be a birthday present, to him, from his parents.
Never judge a book by the cover as they say.
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I was told similar by my dad of a farmer who was treated in much the same way in Rolls garage having turned up in a battered heap. Some weeks later he went back to the same place in his new Roller and told them "look at what they missed out on". I think these days it is nowhere near as bad as its not 100% clear who has money these days and the best dress scruffily.
 
I have never bought a VW, for the simple reason whenever I have entered a VW dealership I have found the service to be appaling. Sales staff standing chatting amongst themselves and seeming to be seriously put out if approached by a customer. I have witnessed this several times and it has happened to me.

My wife has also experienced sexism in car showrooms too, so now whenever we are looking for a car for her we make it clear upfront that she is the person who has the final say and is the person who they must convince, not me. Usually what happens is she decides what she wants & leaves me to 'negotiate' the deal.....
 
Cobra said:
Similar happened to a Chinese friend some years ago,
He was looking at a new 911, in a show room.
He was dressed in jeans and T-Shirt,
started to ask questions of the "floating" salesman.
The salesmen responded with something like "I doubt that sir could afford any of our cars.

He put his hand in his pockets and pulled out a massive and I mean massive wad of notes,
and said not your lucky day is it? and walked out.

He was from a very wealthy Chinese family, and it was to be a birthday present, to him, from his parents.
Never judge a book by the cover as they say.
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I've had a couple of similar experiences. The first was in Sandton City, an upmarket shopping mall in Joburg. My daughter and I were walking through it on a Saturday morning and they had a BMW promotion with several cars on display. One of my dream cars at the time was the new M3 which had just come out, and of course, there was one to sit in and fantasise about ... so we did. That was the cue for a young salesman to offer me a test drive, 'we're happy to bring the car to your home or office whenever you like'. Very tempting, but way out of reach for me. Surprising too, given that I was very casually dressed or, to put it another way, SA weekend scruffy and unshaven. I thanked him, took his card and said I'd let him know. My daughter, who was about 13 - 14 at the time was disappointed that I didn't take him up on the offer ...

The second was around the same time, at the Game Fair (much the same as in the UK) on the only occasion when they held one in Joburg. We walked around, shot some clay pigeons, watched falconry displays and casting competitions, had lunch and checked out all the stuff for sale and ended up in the Holland & Holland marquee towards the end of the day. Wow! I chatted to one of their guys who showed me some guns, gave me his card (I think I still have it), suggested I drop in to their showrooms 'the next time you're in 'London' and insisted that I have a drink with him before we left. The hospitality was superb. They must have known that I couldn't possibly afford a H & H gun, but were unfailingly courteous and we left on very good terms. I'll certainly consider the London visit if I ever win the lottery, although I also have a soft spot for Purdey ...
 
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I worked in car sales for several years and soon learned never to judge a book by it’s cover, eg, guy jumped out a tipper truck outside the showroom in working clothes(very tatty/dirty clothes) and asked about an expensive top end model, in chatting I asked his name -as taught- and noted it was the same as on the truck doors, yep he owned the company and liked to do the odd job at the weekends to keep in touch with his customers, lesson quickly learned.
 
One of the members of a big '60s band turned up at H R Owen looking rather scruffy and was comprehensively ignored until one of the juniors recognised him and started the sales spiel. A more senior salesman leapt in but was rebuffed by the band member who bought the Rolls from the junior and made sure he got the commission for the sale.
 
Reading the above posts it's no wonder people approach car showrooms with wariness. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't like this first name terms in this situation, either.

I recall went to a showroom and a young man came to us. He was in his early twenties and asked if he could help. We told him what we were looking for .He said "My name's Dave and you are ?? "Mr & Mrs" .....I said. Judging by his body language, facial expression that didn't go down too well. We could have been his grandparents let alone parents. If I were a manager I'd be tellling my staff to address older customers as Mr & Mrs. In fact, it's unnecessary in the first instance and I can only think it's for creating a feeling of friendship with the purpose of exploiting it. If it comes to a point where a name is required thus knowing a first name in my opinion it still shouldn't be used. With a young couple maybe first names are ok. Also, I don't like doing business on first name terms.

Their online response is no better. 2018 article https://uk.motor1.com/news/267429/car-dealers-tech-email-enquiries/
 
cambsno said:
I was told similar by my dad of a farmer who was treated in much the same way in Rolls garage having turned up in a battered heap. Some weeks later he went back to the same place in his new Roller and told them "look at what they missed out on". I think these days it is nowhere near as bad as its not 100% clear who has money these days and the best dress scruffily.
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What a lovely feeling that must have been..lol.

So-called Travellers buy their Mercs and BMW's and caravans for cash too.
 
broc said:
I have never bought a VW, for the simple reason whenever I have entered a VW dealership I have found the service to be appaling. Sales staff standing chatting amongst themselves and seeming to be seriously put out if approached by a customer. I have witnessed this several times and it has happened to me.

My wife has also experienced sexism in car showrooms too, so now whenever we are looking for a car for her we make it clear upfront that she is the person who has the final say and is the person who they must convince, not me. Usually what happens is she decides what she wants & leaves me to 'negotiate' the deal.....
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I think with most couples it's the wife who has the last say. I'm more than happy to defer to my wife's judgement as it's sound.

Simon (cambsno) thinks the experience my wife's friend had was poor customer service rather than a sexist attitude but reading your post I still think it was based on a sexist attitude. As I say,I think in most cases it's the wife who is the more influential. Infact, our near neighbour was a car salesman at one time in his working life and he told me that he would quickly ascertain who, re a couple, was the one who would decide. It's a job that requires good interpersonal skills.
 
broc said:
I have never bought a VW, for the simple reason whenever I have entered a VW dealership I have found the service to be appaling. Sales staff standing chatting amongst themselves and seeming to be seriously put out if approached by a customer. I have witnessed this several times and it has happened to me.

My wife has also experienced sexism in car showrooms too, so now whenever we are looking for a car for her we make it clear upfront that she is the person who has the final say and is the person who they must convince, not me. Usually what happens is she decides what she wants & leaves me to 'negotiate' the deal.....
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My wife has bought 3 new VW's and has never had any of those issues tbh....
 
Back when I had a Merc SLK I fancied changing to either a Boxster or Honda S2000 so I booked a test drive of the Honda at a local garage just 10 minutes drive away. When I turned up I looked at the car, sat in it and said ok, lets take it out for a drive but the youngster I was dealing with didn't have the authority as he'd brought the car down from another branch. He spent ages on the phone and came back with a "No." I said I wasn't going to buy any car without driving it, went home and ordered the Boxster.

Someone higher up at Honda called me at home within the hour and apologised profusely and offered me a test drive. He persisted in offering me a test drive even after I'd repeatedly told him I'd ordered the Porsche, so much so that I had to interrupt him and say "You're not listening to me are you? I've ordered the Porsche." And I added that the car I turned up in was worth more than his S2000.

Despite usually being a vaguely scruffy bloke I can afford any "thing" I care to buy and wouldn't waste my time driving anything I wasn't seriously interested in. That was the one and only time I've ever been refused a test drive in anything but as above, I was ignored by VW when I wanted to buy my mam one :D
 
broc said:
I have never bought a VW, for the simple reason whenever I have entered a VW dealership I have found the service to be appaling. Sales staff standing chatting amongst themselves and seeming to be seriously put out if approached by a customer. I have witnessed this several times and it has happened to me.

My wife has also experienced sexism in car showrooms too, so now whenever we are looking for a car for her we make it clear upfront that she is the person who has the final say and is the person who they must convince, not me. Usually what happens is she decides what she wants & leaves me to 'negotiate' the deal.....
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Just on the subject of VW, as they've come up more than once, but this little story is from some time ago when Rover existed.

I knew a salesman who went from VW to Rover and I was surprised as people used to slam Rover but VW are of course quality :D His reply was that yes he got complaints at Rover but they were usually little things and easily sorted whereas at VW he'd get angry customers with serious issues like blown engines. "How would you feel if you'd paid £x for a VW and a week later the engine blew?" He had a point which was at that time reflected in the quality and reliability surveys which proved that just about anything was at least as reliable as a VW. Things may be different now, I don't know as I don't follow the reliability surveys now.
 
Other than that...

I'm helping Mrs WW to get a NI number and it's an absolute nightmare. We need a "Share Code" from the governments smartphone based ID app and although we've used this before and successfully so when Mrs WW got her second FLR (further leave to remain... as she's an immigrant) this time we can't log on. I thought this may be because the Biometric Card number we used then has since lapsed and she has a new one now but no matter what number we enter, the current one or the expired one, we can't get access.

I spent 2h10m on the phone to the technical helpline today and they were useless so we're starting again tomorrow.

I'm worried that this could be a bigger issue when she needs to apply for her ILR (indefinite leave to remain) in the future so regardless of the NI number we need to be able to access this ID app.

BTW.
When ringing the technical helpline the first few times we got a recoded message saying "Not answering" before it even rang. When I did get through there were 6 people in front of me in the queue. For 2 hours? Maybe if they only have one person dealing with enquiries.

What a shambles. I have warned Mrs WW that anything involving the UK Government or Civil Service is likely to be a shambles,
 
JohnC6 said:
and I can only think it's for creating a feeling of friendship with the purpose of exploiting it.
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I had that a couple of years ago, not a car but a couple of sofa's
no not those damned never ending "sales" places but a local independent.
I was browsing, but with the intent to buy if I saw what I liked.

A salesman came up to me, obviously of west Indian decent, and introduced himself as something quite unpronounceable.
( to me anyway)

He asked for my name and I was truthful and said "Chris"
Ah he said we must be soul brothers, that is my given Christian name ...

Why didn't you say that in the first place? I asked, well, its not something I share with every one.
( yeah just those with the first name Chris :lol: )
Needless to say, I went elsewhere, just a few hundred yards away as it happened.
Why do they feel the need to lie? If he is going to lie over something like that, I'd not buy anything from him including a used car ( or a new sofa come to that :D
 
Cobra said:
I had that a couple of years ago, not a car but a couple of sofa's
no not those damned never ending "sales" places but a local independent.
I was browsing, but with the intent to buy if I saw what I liked.

A salesman came up to me, obviously of west Indian decent, and introduced himself as something quite unpronounceable.
( to me anyway)

He asked for my name and I was truthful and said "Chris"
Ah he said we must be soul brothers, that is my given Christian name ...

Why didn't you say that in the first place? I asked, well, its not something I share with every one.
( yeah just those with the first name Chris :LOL: )
Needless to say, I went elsewhere, just a few hundred yards away as it happened.
Why do they feel the need to lie? If he is going to lie over something like that, I'd not buy anything from him including a used car ( or a new sofa come to that :D
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Exactly..(re your last sentence).

I think what annoys me more than these tactics themselves is that these people assume that I'm....and obviously you too..are dumb enough not to realise what they're up to.
 
I usually go car shopping on my own otherwise the sales person will try and sell the car to any male friend I take along. Got fed up of that.

I've also noticed if you amble around several cars you have far less chance of getting a sales person's attention than if you make a beeline for a specific one.

I can see why Cazoo etc will do well as you don't have to put up with any nonsense.
 
A friend of mine was looking for a used car recently… she had literally no idea what style of car she wanted or what brands were decent. Her only search criteria was “it must be red but mustn’t be too big”.
 
boogie man said:
A friend of mine was looking for a used car recently… she had literally no idea what style of car she wanted or what brands were decent. Her only search criteria was “it must be red but mustn’t be too big”.
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I went to look at a car once and walked away because it was red !!
Worked for Royal Mail and would never have a red car
 
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boogie man said:
A friend of mine was looking for a used car recently… she had literally no idea what style of car she wanted or what brands were decent. Her only search criteria was “it must be red but mustn’t be too big”.
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A former GF of mind was car blind... One day there was a Boxster parked next to a Merc saloon and she was struggling to see the difference between them. Just to be clear that's a two seat soft top next to a four door saloon with a boot. She actually said "They're different cars?" They say that nature compensates and I suppose that can be true for men or women but all I can say was she was one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen let alone dated. How she recognised her own car in a car park I don't know :D
 
woof woof said:
A former GF of mind was car blind... One day there was a Boxster parked next to a Merc saloon and she was struggling to see the difference between them. Just to be clear that's a two seat soft top next to a four door saloon with a boot. She actually said "They're different cars?" They say that nature compensates and I suppose that can be true for men or women but all I can say was she was one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen let alone dated. How she recognised her own car in a car park I don't know :D
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My mates sister said his new car was like a Land Rover - when he showed me a pic it was a small Alfa!
 
JohnC6 said:
I recall went to a showroom and a young man came to us. He was in his early twenties and asked if he could help. We told him what we were looking for .He said "My name's Dave and you are ?? "Mr & Mrs" .....I said. Judging by his body language, facial expression that didn't go down too well. We could have been his grandparents let alone parents. If I were a manager I'd be tellling my staff to address older customers as Mr & Mrs. In fact, it's unnecessary in the first instance and I can only think it's for creating a feeling of friendship with the purpose of exploiting it. If it comes to a point where a name is required thus knowing a first name in my opinion it still shouldn't be used. With a young couple maybe first names are ok. Also, I don't like doing business on first name terms.
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Fair enough. I don't like doing business on first name terms either, unless my relationship with the company or the individual is already on that level. Let the customer decide how to play this, don't presume.

I generally introduce myself by my first name and surname, never as 'Mr'. It's just a courtesy title other people may use if they want to.
 
MartynK said:
Fair enough. I don't like doing business on first name terms either, unless my relationship with the company or the individual is already on that level. Let the customer decide how to play this, don't presume.

I generally introduce myself by my first name and surname, never as 'Mr'. It's just a courtesy title other people may use if they want to.
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Re your last point,Martyn. I never use Mr either except in this kind of situation when saying first and surname would have had him calling us by our first names so the Mr. was deliberate. Deliberate because I knew why he would prefer first names. Sometimes when asked for a name, ie ordering something in a shop that they didn't have in stock I'll just give my surname. I'd actually warm to someone who used Mr. I'd think ,how polite. I assume most of my generation aren't used to first name terms from strangers.

I lived in Germany for three years in the 70's and what I really liked was the formality. In my workplace the chief engineer was addressed as Herr Doktor Pirner..and the plant manager Meister Langer. My memory still serves me well..:)
 
MartynK said:
Fair enough. I don't like doing business on first name terms either, unless my relationship with the company or the individual is already on that level. Let the customer decide how to play this, don't presume.

I generally introduce myself by my first name and surname, never as 'Mr'. It's just a courtesy title other people may use if they want to.
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I used to just respond to “what name sir?” with my surname (Archer) if I was dealing with a business. That changed when we bought our last car as the salesman kept calling me Archer as though it was my first name. Must’ve thought my parents were 60s hippies or surfer dudes or something. :)
 
I like the more relaxed Thai approach with younger or elder additions to names and the use of brother. I like being called Brother Alan.

Other than that in business I was happy to be called by my forename. I was never so authoritarian or so insecure that I felt the need to insist on Mr or my work title and I can't really remember meeting anyone who requested to be called Mr/Mrs/Mz Jobtitle. Guess I was just lucky that it all suited me. I generally see no disrespect in the use of forenames but I don't go too far down this path...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V8sFfQo6SA

At one company I worked at for 12 years I was known by many by a nickname to the point that one day someone I'd been talking to for years struggled to remember my name :D And no, that didn't bother me at all :D
 
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Sky said:
You can address me by my name if you wish write to me. Until then 'Sir' will suffice. ;)
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When I commuted, casually dressed, often no jacket (because I kept one at work and worked in white coat), I sometimes carried an umbrella. What I noticed is that usually if I had conversations with railway staff the called me ‘sir’ if I had the umbrella and no ‘title’ if not. Go figure, as they say :).
 
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I just don't see the need. I think the most employees I had "under me" was somewhere between 200/250. They all called me Alan apart from those 12 years when people forgot my name :D and I called them by their forenames or in some instances by a nickname. With both UK and overseas contacts and customers it was the same apart from one long time contact who persistently called me a contraction of my surname but thankfully she was the one and only. When phoning someone in business I'd normally use their full name if going through a switchboard. Mrs WW had an empire at work with hundreds of staff over multiple branches and they all called her by her nickname preceded by the Thai age moniker which is common practice in Thailand.

When meeting strangers I'll use Sir/Madame etc but after that a polite enquiry normally gets a handle I can use and I honestly can't remember the last time it was Sir, Mr/Mrs/Mz or Jobtitle. It's all personal preference but actually the thought of being called by a jobtitle seems dehumanising to me.

To each their own.
 
sphexx said:
When I commuted, casually dressed, often no jacket (because I kept one at work and worked in white coat), I sometimes carried an umbrella. What I noticed is that usually if I had conversations with railway staff the called me ‘sir’ if I had the umbrella and no ‘title’ if not. Go figure, as they say :).
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There must have been a previous conversation similar to this one because I do recall you mentioning that. . You take a brolly and you are called sir. That could only happen in England,I'm sure. Maybe that previous conversation was about our awful class system.
 
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I always addressed my customers as Sir or Madam until told otherwise, maintain a professional approach until it becomes more friendly through time.
 
woof woof said:
I just don't see the need. I think the most employees I had "under me" was somewhere between 200/250. They all called me Alan apart from those 12 years when people forgot my name :D and I called them by their forenames or in some instances by a nickname. With both UK and overseas contacts and customers it was the same apart from one long time contact who persistently called me a contraction of my surname but thankfully she was the one and only. When phoning someone in business I'd normally use their full name if going through a switchboard. Mrs WW had an empire at work with hundreds of staff over multiple branches and they all called her by her nickname preceded by the Thai age moniker which is common practice in Thailand.

When meeting strangers I'll use Sir/Madame etc but after that a polite enquiry normally gets a handle I can use and I honestly can't remember the last time it was Sir, Mr/Mrs/Mz or Jobtitle. It's all personal preference but actually the thought of being called by a jobtitle seems dehumanising to me.

To each their own.
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Re your last sentence,Alan, I assume you're talking about the two mangement people I worked with in Germany. You said you found it dehumanising It never occured to me that the form of address was dehumanising. It certainly wasn't because of a feeling of insecurity nor authoritarianism and I can only guess that re Dr Pirner and others in his position and it's respect for the doctorate and with Meister Langer it's respect for his managerial position. Difficult to put that into our socety as we're different cultuarally. Well, just as the culture of Thailand is different. Brother here is unheard of apart from those with Carribean roots ..the younger generation who address each other as Bro.....and others, I think, not just their friends. It definitely isn't a case of wanting those titles through insecurity as you've suggested. You say When meeting strangers I'll use Sir/Madame .That's essentially what we're discussing. Meeting strangers ...in this case car salesmen.

Each morning when Dr Pirner or Meister Langer came into the control room they shook hands with us and,I did find this a bit odd, so did my co-workers with each other.. A shake of the hand as we entered the controll room each morning.with a 'Morgen"...'Morning'.

This article in the below link explains the cultural differences in Germany. Every word of it is why I felt so comfortable in that society. I recall my nephew's wife looking a bit surpprised when I was first introduced to her and I proffered my hand for a handshake. You''ll read a sentence in the article that states that Germans don't ask personal questions of people they don't properly know. I'm like that. I never ask anything personal of someone. I work on the basis that they'll tell me if they want me to know. I get irritated if people ask me personal questions.Another aspect mentioned is punctuality. When we get an invitation that stipulates a time then that's what time we arrive. 7.30 pm. is 7.30 pm not 6.55 nor 7.05. I recall a friend telling us that she'd asked a friend of hers who had been invited to an evening get --together for her wedding anniversay and asked that he arrived at 7.00pm. At 7.30pm she looked down into the cove to see him walking his dog on the beach. Beggars belief,I thought. How rude. He's been or maybe still is, a judge in photography competitions and when we're on holiday there he usually calls round to chat about it. Our friend called asked him to come round at 3.00pm one time and she said. "That's 3.00pm John's time" lol. We go out for meals with the couple,usually in their car and we are ready on time to be collected...always.

Just as an aside. Shortly after arriving in Frankfurt I went to Mainz on the train. It was due into Frankfurt at 1050. It came round the bend approaching the station at 1049. It stopped at the platform at 1050. I watched the finger of the large station clock move to 11.00am...it's scheduled departure time, as it pulled away .

Even as a young man..before my work in Germany..18 years old..if I told a girl I'd pick her up from home at a particular time that's what time I'd be there. If I arrivede early I'd sit in my car until the alloted time One day one asked why I was sitting in my car a few houses away for 10 minutes. She'd seen me. :D There's a flip side. I do'nt like people arriving at our either early nor late home too early. I have to accept that some will be early and some late..ish..but not by much I'd hope. Here's phrase I hate." I'll call round this afternoon" WHAT TIME.. ?? I need a time.:D On this subject here's another strange phrase when taking leave of someone. "See you later" Later is later that day but they don't mean that. Anyway, I've digressed a little.

German culture.

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I wasn't talking about your experience. It's just my preference to be called something rather less formal and not including job or qualification titles. If it's someone's preference I'll happily call them anything they choose even if in my slightly relaxed view it seems a little too formal or even pompous to me.

I don't work now (Thank Gosh) but in my last job I met with Germans and never encountered anything but friendliness, handshakes and first name use but of course on first introduction people got their full title including their job title. Once the introductions were over it was always first name terms but this was them visiting the UK so perhaps they either thought first name use appropriate as a curtesy to us or maybe were just jumping at the chance to do things differently for a change. Who knows. I never detected any uncomfortableness and when answering the phone to them they always used my forename. There was some semi personal chat on the phone, "How are you/the weather" and the like and in person there was more chat when appropriate, tea break etc, no different from UK contacts at all really apart from the accents.

The only people I've met who wont shake hands are Muslim women but not all. One of Mrs WW's friends from school from Africa wont shake hands but one from Syria is happy too and either is fine by me. I had a long term relationship with a Kazakh Muslim who would happily shake hands when meeting people but wouldn't for example hold hands in public in Kazakhstan but would in the UK or Belgium where she lived part time. Actually in the west she was a lot more affectionate and tactile in public than I would normally be. So for me there are no certainties, I just go with the flow and fit in with what people are comfortable with.

As Mrs WW is Thai I've met a lot of Thai people and I do like the use of Pee and Nong before names meaning older/younger brother or sister. I wouldn't call a fellow Brit brother or sister as it's not common here and although I would quite like it as we're all a part of this great family and it'd fit in with my religious beliefs I do also remember my fathers disagreements with the use of Brother in unions by people he felt no kindship with because of their (in his opinion) rather extreme views and prejudices.

In business and generalising like crazy :D the only nationalities I was wary of were American higher management and Chinese technical contacts, for different reasons. The American higher management for what I'll call sharp business practices and the Chinese technicals because I couldn't take anything technical from them at face value as much seemed to be fabricated cut and paste to order depending on what I asked for.

Thinking about it the most forward, friendly and tactile person I know is a British man. Every time we meet it's man hugs and greetings as if I'm his long lost presumed dead brother. He does have religious beliefs so that could be a part of it but he also has a history of serious crime and has done real prison time so for all I know the man hugs could be him checking me for concealed weapons or microphones :D

Sorry for the long reply but I had a free few minutes :D
 
Backache. Started last week and now needs codeine (which I loathe taking.) Keeping moving when the tablets kick in but it's still extremely uncomfortable.
 
woof woof said:
I can't say I've seen sexism in car sales but I/we were completely ignored when I took my mam to the VW showroom and I was once treated like a time waster in TVR showroom, I assume because of how I normally dress. The salesman sneeringly asked how much I had to spend and as I knew how much their most expensive car was I just added £xxK on top of that as my budget. His face actually dropped as he said "It looks like you can afford any car we sell."
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When I was eighteen I went into a Ford dealer, this was to buy a used car I had seen. The salesman told me to "*#*! off and get out of the garage", I must say I did look young back in the day.
 
jonbeeza said:
I must say I did look young back in the day.
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I still treasure the look on the face of the dealer when I handed him a cashier's cheque for a brand new MG Midget. He was clearly wondering how a 19 year old could afford such a thing. :naughty:
 
A particular type of pop up that appears when you access a website.

As with all cookie pop ups it gives you the option of accepting cookies or managing the cookie settings, but when you go to 'manage cookies' you find they are already inactive!

Why not just tell you none of the cookies are active? I also can't imagine many people go to manage the cookies and decide to turn them on.

Dave
 
Why can I not charge tens of thousands a day for my photography... after all Rankin charges up to 50k and he is doing the same job as me?

Well, I am using the logic of Megan Rapinhoe (US Soccer player) who complains that she doesn't get paid the same as the male players who do the same job??? Stupid cow!
 
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