The Fabulous Fuji X owners thread

Reading up on these tracking settings and option. What best setting for ruining kids abs dogs? And motorsport
 
Cagey75 said:
I used to try similar techniques in PS, using soft layers and high pass sharpening etc ... now I just tend to embrace noise when it occurs :D
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Yeah, I agree you have to live with some. In this case it's just a matter of trying to pull out a little more definition without making things any worse! How well it works depends on the subject. Signage is good, skin is another matter :-)
 
rookies said:
Reading up on these tracking settings and option. What best setting for ruining kids abs dogs? And motorsport
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Shouldn't you be asking this in the Sony section? :p
 
dave.hallett said:
Here's the famous Fuji "painterly effect" in full swing. Although in this case it probably arises more from being shot at f/2 and ISO 3200 on an old Pentax K nifty fifty :)


Man with Red Bag, St Giles by David Hallett, on Flickr
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Really like that Dave, great comp, well handled exposure, and looks to be good quality even though shot at 3200 iso.(y)

George.
 
G.K.Jnr. said:
Really like that Dave, great comp, well handled exposure, and looks to be good quality even though shot at 3200 iso.(y)

George.
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Thanks George! It's not bad for the ISO. I don't think I'd print it at 30x20, which I managed to do with an ISO 800 shot this year, but I think it would be fine at 16x12, which isn't too much to grumble at. Maybe a little bigger.
 
G.K.Jnr. said:
Really like that Dave, great comp, well handled exposure, and looks to be good quality even though shot at 3200 iso.(y)

George.
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TBH I thought it was pretty noisy for ISO 3200 :confused:

I try not to go above 1600 on the XT1 if I can help it.
 
Anyone got a work around on shoot/view setup? I want the EVF to switch on on eye sensor buy LCD not turn on unless i press a button like play or menu etc. Abit like DSLR style.

First i only want to use lcd to change setting and view image but not on all the time.
 
snerkler said:
TBH I thought it was pretty noisy for ISO 3200 :confused:

I try not to go above 1600 on the XT1 if I can help it.
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Nah,!! you've got dust on your eyeballs m8.:D:D
 
snerkler said:
TBH I thought it was pretty noisy for ISO 3200 :confused:

I try not to go above 1600 on the XT1 if I can help it.
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Technically speaking, you're completely right. You can do better than this at ISO 3200. The original is quite underexposed. But that's the way it is, shooting on the street after dark. I love the lighting you get, but i have no lens faster than 1.4, and I need 1/60 to stand any chance of getting motion even somewhat frozen (better if people are standing still, to be honest). So unless I'm in an area with significantly more light, I just set the aperture, set speed to 1/60 and deal with the exposure issues later :). Now whether it's worth losing a stop to get better lens performance by shooting at f/2, as here, is an interesting question and the only real point of flexibility other than going and finding more light. Next time I'll probably try wide open and see what I think. It's hard enough focusing in the dark with f/2 mind you :)

PS I haven't noticed a big difference between 1600 and 3200 but I've only played around a bit.
 
snerkler said:
TBH I thought it was pretty noisy for ISO 3200 :confused:

I try not to go above 1600 on the XT1 if I can help it.
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If it doesn't look like there's a snow blizzard, and you can make out the subjects clearly, it makes no real odds so long as the overall image is pleasing to the eye. I think we get hung up on sharpness and clarity and smooth images at times. I know i can be guilty of it too. The only people who pixel peep our images, are other photographers let's be honest :D
 
jj_glos said:
Too much? Heavy crop with 100-400 + 1.4TC and whizzed through Photo Ninja:


Moon by JJ, on Flickr
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Looks pretty good to me Julian, I've just had a look at it on Flickr and there's plenty of detail in it.(y)

George.
 
Bloody hell I've just noticed the price of spare batteries! I was p***ed off paying £40 for my Nikon ones now i can add another £20 for good measure.
 
Ok thanks both I did notice them on Amazon but Not heard of the brand before which drew my attention to the Duracell. Can using third party batteries void warranties if something goes wrong?
 
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I've ExPros, have had them in all sorts of brands and they're very good.
 
rjbell said:
Ok thanks both I did notice them on Amazon but Not heard of the brand before which drew my attention to the Duracell. Can using third party batteries void warranties if something goes wrong?
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Don't know. I suppose if one were to catch fire or leak acid, or something, that probably wouldn't be covered. Seems pretty unlikely to me though :-)
 
Wow [emoji85]£££
 
Just to back up Toby's point (@snerkler) about how ISO 3200 doesn't have to be noisy, here's one from the same evening. I don't think it's a very strong picture, but the exposure is better, cos there's a bit more light, and you can only really make out any noise at 100%. I would be happy to print this at around 30x20, at least at first glance. The Fuji sensor is an impressive thing, even without the X-T2's extra resolution.


Eagle and Child by David Hallett, on Flickr
 
OK, so after just having a full purge on all my Nikon FX gear, I have a good chunk of money sat in the bank.

I also have a healthy M4/3 set up (GX8 and EM1 bodies and a good selection of lenses). These won't go (for now at least), and I was going to purchase the EM1 MK II (despite the price). However on reading the review from DPReview, whilst it's no doubt a stellar camera, as I don't shoot sports etc. I have no real need for it's main claim to fame which is speed. Coupled with that the review said there wasn't really any meaningful image quality difference between the EM1 and EM1 MK II -not that the MK I is bad - it isn't, but high ISO isn't it's thing, which is only to be expected. I'm sure the EM1 MK II will be the best M4/3 camera ever made, but I'm looking for something just as small (I know the lenses will be a little bigger), but with better resolution than my 16mp set up and with better high ISO).

So I've decided to bite the bullet and see what all this Fuji malarkey was about and just ordered myself an X-T2 with the 18-55 kit lens and battery grip, (yes I've gone to the dark - or is it light side :)).

Now comes some questions.

Is there a roadmap of what lenses Fuji are developing ? I know they have the 18-135mm as a good walk around lens, bur I can't seem to see anything which starts at 16mm (24mm in old money), so something like a 16-80 (24-120) or even a 16-135 (24-200) ?

What's the quality of the 18-55 kit lens like, is it half decent ?. I'm not really a prime guy, so was thinking long term around a 10-24, 18-135 (or 16-135 if launched) and the 55-200 as a decent quality set up from 15mm to 300mm equivalent which shouldn't be too big or bulky ? Does this sound reasonable ?

I tend to like using wide-angle lenses, and am looking at the Fuji 10-24. It's an expensive beast but can anyone comment on it's value for money and quality ?

Batteries for the X-T2 seem to come at quite a premium, and I read that some people are using Ex-Pro versions from Amazon. Are these the ones and will they work in the X-T2 ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ex-Pro-126...d=1479973078&sr=8-3&keywords=battery+for+x-t2

By the way, what's the difference between the Fuji NP-W126 and NP-W126S batteries ?

Finally (and sorry for so many questions), what are people using as their raw developer of choice. I tend to use Lightroom, but not sure if that's the best for the Fuji X-Trans sensor ?

Many thanks in advance.
 
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Sootchucker said:
OK, so after just having a full purge on all my Nikon FX gear, I have a good chunk of money sat in the bank.

I also have a healthy M4/3 set up (GX8 and EM1 bodies and a good selection of lenses). These won't go (for now at least), and I was going to purchase the EM1 MK II (despite the price). However on reading the review from DPReview, whilst it's no doubt a stellar camera, as I don't shoot sports etc. I have no real need for it's main claim to fame which is speed. Coupled with that the review said there wasn't really any meaningful image quality difference between the EM1 and EM1 MK II -not that the MK I is bad - it isn't, but high ISO isn't it's thing, which is only to be expected. I'm sure the EM1 MK II will be the best M4/3 camera ever made, but I'm looking for something just as small (I know the lenses will be a little bigger), but with better resolution than my 16mp set up and with better high ISO).

So I've decided to bite the bullet and see what all this Fuji malarkey was about and just ordered myself an X-T2 with the 18-55 kit lens and battery grip, (yes I've gone to the dark - or is it light side :)).

Now comes some questions.

Is there a roadmap of what lenses Fuji are developing ? I know they have the 18-135mm as a good walk around lens, bur I can't seem to see anything which starts at 16mm (24mm in old money), so something like a 16-80 (24-120) or even a 16-135 (24-200) ?

What's the quality of the 18-55 kit lens like, is it half decent ?. I'm not really a prime guy, so was thinking long term around a 10-24, 18-135 (or 16-135 if launched) and the 55-200 as a decent quality set up from 15mm to 300mm equivalent which shouldn't be too big or bulky ? Does this sound reasonable ?

I tend to like using wide-angle lenses, and am looking at the Fuji 10-24. It's an expensive beast but can anyone comment on it's value for money and quality ?

Batteries for the X-T2 seem to come at quite a premium, and I read that some people are using Ex-Pro versions from Amazon. Are these the ones and will they work in the X-T2 ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ex-Pro-126...d=1479973078&sr=8-3&keywords=battery+for+x-t2

By the way, what's the difference between the Fuji NP-W126 and NP-W126S batteries ?

Finally (and sorry for so many questions), what are people using as their raw developer of choice. I tend to use Lightroom, but not sure if that's the best for the Fuji X-Trans sensor ?

Many thanks in advance.
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Andrew welcome, and congrats on your purchase

There is a lens roadmap - http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/xf_lens/roadmap/ but no new zooms planned. First thing you need to know, is that ALL fuji lenses are optically very good, and the 18-55 is way ahead of any kit lens offerred by Canikon etc, and has probably better IQ than the 18-135, though not the range orweather sealing.

There is a plastic bodied XC16-50 lens, and a posh 16-55 f2.8, but if you invest in the 10-24 then you have 16 covered anyway.The 10-24 is a great lens as is the 55-200. Many here though like the Samyang 12mm which is excellent value for money.

Batteries, third party preference is for the White Ex-Pro's https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ex-Pro-1260mAh-Replacement-Fujifilm-NP-W126/dp/B00EXP4Z9U which have a good lifetime.

The S battery has better cooling characteristics, and is better suited to video and burst mode shooting than the regular battery. IMO and some others it also appears to have a much extended battery life compared with the regular batteries in the X-T2, especially when shooting burst mode stuff (eg motorsport)

There are countless discussions about Fuji RAW handling and lightroom, there doesn't appear to be a perfect tool, most of us are happily using lightroom, those that want to pixel peep to the nth degree often use Irident or other 3rd party tools.This is worth reading http://petebridgwood.com/wp/2014/10/x-trans-sharpening/
 
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That's brilliant, thanks David.
 
Sootchucker said:
OK, so after just having a full purge on all my Nikon FX gear, I have a good chunk of money sat in the bank.

I also have a healthy M4/3 set up (GX8 and EM1 bodies and a good selection of lenses). These won't go (for now at least), and I was going to purchase the EM1 MK II (despite the price). However on reading the review from DPReview, whilst it's no doubt a stellar camera, as I don't shoot sports etc. I have no real need for it's main claim to fame which is speed. Coupled with that the review said there wasn't really any meaningful image quality difference between the EM1 and EM1 MK II -not that the MK I is bad - it isn't, but high ISO isn't it's thing, which is only to be expected. I'm sure the EM1 MK II will be the best M4/3 camera ever made, but I'm looking for something just as small (I know the lenses will be a little bigger), but with better resolution than my 16mp set up and with better high ISO).

So I've decided to bite the bullet and see what all this Fuji malarkey was about and just ordered myself an X-T2 with the 18-55 kit lens and battery grip, (yes I've gone to the dark - or is it light side :)).

Now comes some questions.

Is there a roadmap of what lenses Fuji are developing ? I know they have the 18-135mm as a good walk around lens, bur I can't seem to see anything which starts at 16mm (24mm in old money), so something like a 16-80 (24-120) or even a 16-135 (24-200) ?

What's the quality of the 18-55 kit lens like, is it half decent ?. I'm not really a prime guy, so was thinking long term around a 10-24, 18-135 (or 16-135 if launched) and the 55-200 as a decent quality set up from 15mm to 300mm equivalent which shouldn't be too big or bulky ? Does this sound reasonable ?

I tend to like using wide-angle lenses, and am looking at the Fuji 10-24. It's an expensive beast but can anyone comment on it's value for money and quality ?

Batteries for the X-T2 seem to come at quite a premium, and I read that some people are using Ex-Pro versions from Amazon. Are these the ones and will they work in the X-T2 ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ex-Pro-126...d=1479973078&sr=8-3&keywords=battery+for+x-t2

By the way, what's the difference between the Fuji NP-W126 and NP-W126S batteries ?

Finally (and sorry for so many questions), what are people using as their raw developer of choice. I tend to use Lightroom, but not sure if that's the best for the Fuji X-Trans sensor ?

Many thanks in advance.
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Congratulations on the new camera! The 18-55mm is an excellent lens imo, I had that and the 16-55/2.8 and opted to keep the 18-55/2.8-4 as it's more than good enough.
 
Welcome to Fuji land :)

I'm new to Fuji myself but will take a punt at answering a question or two.

Here's the roadmap: http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/xf_lens/roadmap/

Yep the ExPro whites are very good and much cheaper but may not be up to long 4K video (I've not tried), but given the two main differences between the official Fuji batteries are that the s stays cool and has better battery level reporting I would suspect it would act the same as it's based on the older battery.

The Fuji will be larger than the m43 setup you have, but apparently not as much as I recall: http://camerasize.com/compact/#692.412,679.448,ha,t

You will however get a shallower depth of field as both those are 2.8s but take the effect the crop into account.

Personally I've not used the 18-55 but have heard it said that it's hard to find a bad Fuji lens optically, something worth knowing is that many think of Fuji as film but new to digital, but they have been making lenses for the movie industry for a very long time and really do know what they are doing.

I have the 18-135 and it's really very good, to the point where it's only if I want to use a faster (larger apature) lens that I use something else, granted that's pretty often but hey :)

Hope that helps, on the tablet it seemed like an epic!
 
Just spotted the last question, I use lightroom but mostly because I know it and don't get on with the others, that said there's nothing wrong that I can see with the processing anyway now.
 
manualfocus-g said:
Now we're cooking.

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This thing focuses VERY quickly!
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manualfocus-g said:
Just a couple of snaps around the house, but a few observations:

1. It's a bit ugly
2. Focusing is incredibly fast
3. Focusing is very quiet, unnervingly so
4. It is very sharp*
5. * Except at extremely close focus

All of this fits with others' experiences so looks like my copy is bang on :) The price if grey imports is starting to fall too (tho mine was UK stock bought with 10℅ cashback).
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Must admit i did think it was ugly too. :exit:

Don't worry, I'm back under my stone...
 
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