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MODS: can you please tell me where the ignore button is, because this guys getting on my tits

He must be a defense solicitor or something :lol:
 
Monkey said:
MODS: can you please tell me where the ignore button is, because this guys getting on my tits

He must be a defense solicitor or something :lol:
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I think he's a rather young person with very little real life experience - the scary part is he doesn't realise it. ;) It's so easy to sit behind a keyboard advocating a Utopian view of what society should be.
 
Yantorsen said:
come on flash, at least be constructive.
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I thought you were 12 :shrug: How old are you then? I get the feeling you're not all that long out of school. I seem to remember having somewhat similar leftish political views at that age.

A few years in the real world will soon knock that sort of nonsense out of you ;)
 
Monkey said:
MODS: can you please tell me where the ignore button is, because this guys getting on my tits

He must be a defense solicitor or something :lol:
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go to user CP, down the left there's "Edit ignore list" ;)
 
maybe he is genuinely one of these people who if caught a burglar in his house, he would sit them down with a coffee and explain the error of their ways, then give em £50 to fund their drug habit and get a bag of chips.

ME...... Id be breaking some legs
 
fabs said:
TBH I don't want it either, but I'm not trying to brow beat everyone else who disagrees. Advocating the death penalty does not make you a fascist.
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choosing to put me on there ignore lists because I don't advocate the death penalty though? hmmm..... :cuckoo:
 
Monkey said:
maybe he is genuinely one of these people who if caught a burglar in his house, he would sit them down with a coffee and explain the error of their ways, then give em £50 to fund their drug habit and get a bag of chips.

ME...... Id be breaking some legs
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so because I don't believe in the death penalty and I respect human rights, I'm suddenly going to do that? right...
 
Yantorsen said:
choosing to put me on there ignore lists because I don't advocate the death penalty though? hmmm..... :cuckoo:
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No, they're not putting you on their ignore lists because you don't advocate the death penalty, they're doing it because you're a pain in the arse! ;)

You'll notice there are others on this thread who don't advocate the death penalty, including me, but they're not being put on peoples ignore list.
 
Yantorsen said:
on what grounds am I wrong?

come on, justify yourself.
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Fair enough. On the one hand your saying everyone is entitled to their human rights. Would you agree that those human rights extend to not being murdered, beaten or raped?

If you do I can't see how you can't agree that those who have deprived someone of their rights have also lost the right to claim those same rights.

For me it's basic logic, but then again I am a right wing fascist.
 
Yantorsen said:
so because I don't believe in the death penalty and I respect human rights, I'm suddenly going to do that? right...
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I dont know, breaking someones legs is an infringement of human rights, but if i caught someone in my house i really couldnt give a **** about their rights.
 
Yantorsen, you do seem to have a way of winding people up on this forum. I've read this whole thread, and to my mind, people who throw a lit firework into a baby's pram have forefited all human rights. That is simply sub-human behaviour, and it should be punished as such. A lighted firework should be held down their undercrackers for 10 seconds. I can guarentee they would never do anything like this again (they wouldn't have the balls for one thing :lol:).

And in murder cases where there is irrefutible DNA evidence, I do advocate the death penalty. Where DNA evidence is unavailable, but the jury has found you guilty beyond reasonable doubt (which is the law of the land), then life should mean life, not 12 years. The UK has an awful lot to learn from the US criminal justice system IMHO.
 
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Monkey said:
I dont know, breaking someones legs is an infringement of human rights, but if i caught someone in my house i really couldnt give a **** about their rights.
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Years ago I was forced (by the police) to remove the razor wire from the top of the wall round my workshop yard in case I injured anyone who was climbing over to break in to my premises :shrug:
 
dod said:
Fair enough. On the one hand your saying everyone is entitled to their human rights. Would you agree that those human rights extend to not being murdered, beaten or raped?

If you do I can't see how you can't agree that those who have deprived someone of their rights have also lost the right to claim those same rights.

For me it's basic logic, but then again I am a right wing fascist.
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Everyone is entitled to human rights, that doesn't mean people shouldn't be locked up for breaking them, it just means people should not be killed, it's hypocritical for a start.

Monkey said:
I dont know, breaking someones legs is an infringement of human rights, but if i caught someone in my house i really couldnt give a **** about their rights.
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I didn't say I'd break someones legs, I'd attempt to restrain them and call the police, if that was not possible (if they were too big too many etc) I'd just try n get them away. Reasonable force is one thing, totallying disregarding human rights for breaking and entering is another.
 
RichardC27 said:
Yantorsen, you do seem to have a way of winding people up on this forum. I've read this whole thread, and to my mind, people who throw a lit firework into a baby's pram have forefited all human rights. That is simply sub-human behaviour, and it should be punished as such. A lighted firework should be held down their undercrackers for 10 seconds. I can guarentee they would never do anything like this again (they wouldn't have the balls for one thing :lol:).

And in murder cases where there is irrefutible DNA evidence, I do advocate the death penalty. Where DNA evidence is unavailable, but the jury has found you guilty beyond reasonable doubt (which is the law of the land), then life should mean life, not 12 years. The UK has an awful lot to learn from the US criminal justice system IMHO.
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despite the US having more crime than here?

also who's gonna pay for having someone in prison for life? yes that's right us. and it seems unfair and unjust that one murderer gets off lightly by going to prison because there better at destroying evidence.
 
Yantorsen said:
I didn't say I'd break someones legs, I'd attempt to restrain them and call the police, if that was not possible (if they were too big too many etc) I'd just try n get them away. Reasonable force is one thing, totallying disregarding human rights for breaking and entering is another.
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You realise that if you forcibly restrain someone and prevent them from leaving your house you could be charged with false imprisonment?
 
Flash In The Pan said:
You realise that if you forcibly restrain someone and prevent them from leaving your house you could be charged with false imprisonment?
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yes i realise that, but I think any decent lawyer would be able to argue the truth in this case, especially since I'm 17, not some older bloke trying to kidnap people.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
Years ago I was forced (by the police) to remove the razor wire from the top of the wall round my workshop yard in case I injured anyone who was climbing over to break in to my premises :shrug:
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Things like that really annoy me. It's a disgrace that you're not allowed to protect your own property, in case Johnny Crackaddict injures himself trying to nick your stuff.
 
Flash In The Pan said:
When I was at school if you did anything wrong you got the living **** belted out of you and that made you think twice before doing whatever it was again.Whilst I was in fifth year corporal punishment was banned and replaced with detention and punishment exercises,with the result that there was a noticeable rise in anti-social behaviour.

The punishment must fit the crime. If you take a life then you must suffer the consequences and being waited on hand and foot for the rest of your life is not an appropriate punishment for killing kids...
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I'm assuming you've not been to prison before. It's not the walk in the park that everyone seems to think it is.
 
Yantorsen said:
yes i realise that, but I think any decent lawyer would be able to argue the truth in this case, especially since I'm 17, not some older bloke trying to kidnap people.
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In which case you'd probably be the dead one with no human rights :lol:

Btw,do you know who Tony Martin is?
 
Yantorsen said:
despite the US having more crime than here?

also who's gonna pay for having someone in prison for life? yes that's right us. and it seems unfair and unjust that one murderer gets off lightly by going to prison because there better at destroying evidence.
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The US also has a lot more deprivation than here, which is linked fairly directly to crime. Yes, we would have to pay for someone in prison for life, but keeping someone in prison for life in a 12x10 foot cell with no TV or anything like that, locked up for 22 hours a day (as they do in US maximum security jails), is a little cheaper than people like Ian Huntley being watched by his own dedicated team 24 hours a day, having the full Sky package in his cell, a double bed and all thie rest of it I'd imagine.

And very few murders are planned, hence destroying the evidence doesn't really come into many peoples heads, at least in any significant way. I'd wager most of the unsolved, so called cold case murders in this country are the ones that were properly planned.

So you advocated one of the lads who killed that poor girl up in Bolton purely because she was dressed as a goth having his sentence reduced by 6 months last week do you, since that will save the taxpayer some money?
 
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