Nikon d850 "in development"

Blank_Canvas said:
I think that majority of people who will get the D850 will already be D810 /D750 users.
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Maybe, but I'm sure Nikon would like a lot of DX upgraders, and a lot of them, maybe in the short term, maybe not, may be using DX lenses. I think this is where Nikon have a little bit of advantage over Canon users, in that they have enabled their crop sensor camera users to be able to continue to use their DX lenses on their FX cameras, though with obvious limitations.

Whilst with Pro's it is a good idea to have a backup, amateurs may have to sell to fund something new, and may want one camera to do everything they want. If they have a D6/7/8** and a DX camera, maybe even a D500, then you may have to sell to get the D850, and it is good that it could cover most of what whatever two cameras you may already have in one package.
 
redhed17 said:
Bad luck. :( It only had to last a bit longer until the D850 arrived. :rolleyes:
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Yes, you got it it in one! That also assumes that my D850 order will be fulfilled from the first batch.....
I've bit the bullet and ordered another D500 body - I simply can't afford to be without it given the jobs for the rest of this year.
 
Chris_911 said:
Yes, you got it it in one! That also assumes that my D850 order will be fulfilled from the first batch.....
I've bit the bullet and ordered another D500 body - I simply can't afford to be without it given the jobs for the rest of this year.
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I've read Nikon have said all the first batch have been pre-ordered so probably a wise move.
 
redhed17 said:
I've read Nikon have said all the first batch have been pre-ordered so probably a wise move.
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I've also heard that they cannot fulfil all of the pre-orders so there's going to be some very unhappy people if true. It does baffle me how this can happen (it's happened with other cameras) as surely you know how many you've got :rolleyes:
 
snerkler said:
I've also heard that they cannot fulfil all of the pre-orders so there's going to be some very unhappy people if true. It does baffle me how this can happen (it's happened with other cameras) as surely you know how many you've got :rolleyes:
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This also happened to the D810 and D750 in the early days. It's a well known marking ploy also favoured by Apple when releasing iPhones.
 
Blank_Canvas said:
This also happened to the D810 and D750 in the early days. It's a well known marking ploy also favoured by Apple when releasing iPhones.
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I understand lack of stock to keep people wanting it, but to have pre-orders and then not deliver on them is off imo. That being said, I don't know what small print there is so maybe when you pre-order there's something saying that it doesn't guarantee delivery times?
 
snerkler said:
I understand lack of stock to keep people wanting it, but to have pre-orders and then not deliver on them is off imo. That being said, I don't know what small print there is so maybe when you pre-order there's something saying that it doesn't guarantee delivery times?
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Surely Nikon can only ensure they have enough stock to deliver what retailers have pre-ordered. Nikon can't control how many pre-orders individual retailers take. Though perhaps Nikon aren't able to get the amount of stock to retailers they promised...
 
Saying they are not able to produce enough is a familiar ploy has has been mentioned to make people feel it is a very popular 'must have' item, but I think there may possibly be other factors at work with Nikon. It is a high priced item in a declining market, so do you go mad and make too many more than you think you need? Demand could have caught them off guard. Do Nikon have the capacity to produce enough to meet demand whatever it was? Only Nikon know for sure.
 
Eloise said:
Surely Nikon can only ensure they have enough stock to deliver what retailers have pre-ordered. Nikon can't control how many pre-orders individual retailers take. Though perhaps Nikon aren't able to get the amount of stock to retailers they promised...
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redhed17 said:
Saying they are not able to produce enough is a familiar ploy has has been mentioned to make people feel it is a very popular 'must have' item, but I think there may possibly be other factors at work with Nikon. It is a high priced item in a declining market, so do you go mad and make too many more than you think you need? Demand could have caught them off guard. Do Nikon have the capacity to produce enough to meet demand whatever it was? Only Nikon know for sure.
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Yep I totally get that, I I don't profess to know how these things work. However, logic says to me that Nikon know how many are coming to each retailer and you'd have thought they would tell each retailer how many they are getting and not to allocate any more. This is in my wonderfully ideal world though of course :lol: And maybe like I said before, pre-order may not be a guarantee that you will get the camera in the first batch.
 
If recall last time the D750 was released they also stated there may be delays etc. People got them in time and were delighted etc. Possibly just managing people's expectations.
 
snerkler said:
Yep I totally get that, I I don't profess to know how these things work. However, logic says to me that Nikon know how many are coming to each retailer and you'd have thought they would tell each retailer how many they are getting and not to allocate any more. This is in my wonderfully ideal world though of course :LOL: And maybe like I said before, pre-order may not be a guarantee that you will get the camera in the first batch.
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But the retailers won’t want to say “sorry we’ve already sold out allocation” because that leads customers to seeking out alternative retailers...
 
Eloise said:
But the retailers won’t want to say “sorry we’ve already sold out allocation” because that leads customers to seeking out alternative retailers...
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They will say "I can put you on a waiting list, but you may not get your camera in the first shipment" now that Nikon have put the story out there. Some determined people may be on a waiting list with more than one retailer, and once they have confirmation with one they cancel the others. Shortages suddenly not large as Nikon predicted. [emoji6]

Although I know Nikon seemed to be caught off guard by the demand with a camera they had taken 6 years to replace the previous model in the D500, so maybe they are just really pessimistic with their sales forecasts. [emoji16]
 
redhed17 said:
They will say "I can put you on a waiting list, but you may not get your camera in the first shipment" now that Nikon have put the story out there. Some determined people may be on a waiting list with more than one retailer, and once they have confirmation with one they cancel the others. Shortages suddenly not large as Nikon predicted.]
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This is not going to happen people will have put down the minimum 10% deposit at the point of pre-order.

You can't just walk into a dealer and say "stick me down on the waiting list mate". In fact I was in Wilkinsons, Liverpool today and some punter was told just that.
 
Blank_Canvas said:
This is not going to happen people will have put down the minimum 10% deposit at the point of pre-order.

You can't just walk into a dealer and say "stick me down on the waiting list mate". In fact I was in Wilkinsons, Liverpool today and some punter was told just that.
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Most retailers don't ask for any kind of deposit.
 
nandbytes said:
because I am simply posting i.e. just the messenger. I don't get what you are getting at :confused:
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Usually “don’t shoot the messenger” would be applied to news which was contraversial or bad news. In that case the news was pretty neutral.
 
Eloise said:
Usually “don’t shoot the messenger” would be applied to news which was contraversial or bad news. In that case the news was pretty neutral.
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Ah ok. I used it to mean I don't want to start a controversy, that I was simply posting. Perhaps I used it in the wrong way.
In any case simply posting for academic purposes, no controversy intended.
 
Calumet are fulfilling their pre-orders paid for in full before deposits or non-deposit orders.

I paid in full...
 
nandbytes said:
Ah ok. I used it to mean I don't want to start a controversy, that I was simply posting. Perhaps I used it in the wrong way.
In any case simply posting for academic purposes, no controversy intended.
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Will you be buying one?
 
snerkler said:
So the same base DR as the D810 and marginally better overall, nowt wrong with that imo.
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A hairs width lower than the a7r2. But nothing to be concerned about. Stil great.

I would consider the 5d4 Dr as minimum amount of Dr that's acceptable for today's sensor imo.

The Dr from 5d4 and a7r2 is not much different in the real world whilst the same can't be said about the 5d3/6d2 compared to a7r2
 
jonneymendoza said:
A hairs width lower than the a7r2. But nothing to be concerned about. Stil great.

I would consider the 5d4 Dr as minimum amount of Dr that's acceptable for today's sensor imo.

The Dr from 5d4 and a7r2 is not much different in the real world whilst the same can't be said about the 5d3/6d2 compared to a7r2
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Both Nikons are better than the Sony at base according to that chart (y)
 
jerry12953 said:
Interesting comparison with the Canon 5d4 if you add that to the mix.........
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What's even more interesting is when you add the D750. According to that chart it says the D750 has better base DR than the D810, makes me wonder just how reliable that chart is :rolleyes:
 
snerkler said:
What's even more interesting is when you add the D750. According to that chart it says the D750 has better base DR than the D810, makes me wonder just how reliable that chart is :rolleyes:
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All the measurements are reproducible by any one. You can read the papers and methodology on his website and the photographic dynamic range measurements are calculated with contributions (i.e. RAWs) from the community. If you have the time you can follow his procedure and confirm the results yourself.

I prefer this to DXO where the method of testing is a blackbox and you have no visibility of how they got their measurements. Of course DXO has lot more cameras than Bill Chaff's website so sometimes its inevitable to use that.
 
Also if you disagree with results you can also contact him, he's pretty good at replying back. sometimes you can even have it retested especially if you are willing to help him :)
 
Thinking of getting a D850 to replace both my D810 and D500. I only use the D500 for occasional sports and wildlife, D810 for portraits. I like the idea of one body for all occasions. Would this be a sensible decision?
 
wilt said:
Thinking of getting a D850 to replace both my D810 and D500. I only use the D500 for occasional sports and wildlife, D810 for portraits. I like the idea of one body for all occasions. Would this be a sensible decision?
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It would be for me (unless I needed a second body as a backup), but YMMV
 
wilt said:
Thinking of getting a D850 to replace both my D810 and D500. I only use the D500 for occasional sports and wildlife, D810 for portraits. I like the idea of one body for all occasions. Would this be a sensible decision?
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As you have a D500 I wouldn't chop that in for a D850 unless you need to go full frame. The D810 is still a very capable camera and will be for a few years to come. That said, the one body is an attraction and you should get a good trade in price for both so why not if you can afford to offset the cost. Hope that helps.
 
nandbytes said:
Also if you disagree with results you can also contact him, he's pretty good at replying back. sometimes you can even have it retested especially if you are willing to help him :)
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Life is too short. [emoji4]
Unless you're a camera manufacturer or ultimate fanboy why would you bother?
 
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