Nikon d850 "in development"

niko said:
its still a sony sensor i dont think nikon having input to the design is any change from other sony provided sensors
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Apparently the sensor was designed purely by Nikon and is being manufactured by Samsung
 
Retune said:
What penny, exactly? Earlier in the thread you said you'd ditched Nikon after a bad experience with what sounded like a faulty D750, and now preferred lighter mirrorless cameras. Is it dSLRs you don't like, or new cameras, or Nikons, or expensive cameras in general?
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I did have some quality issues with Nikon (I sold my d600 after I sent it back for a oil and filter change, and I bought a d750 that went back three times, I also had a DL on pre order, but we know what happened there) anyway, around this time I borrowed a Panasonic mirrorless camera and was blown away by what it could produce (no better than Nikon, but certainly no worse and far better than I expected)

I then looked into mirrorless system cameras in general, and realised that I and many others had been paying through the nose unnecessarily, so I gave up plans to buy a canon dslr sold my remaining Nikon gear and opted for mirrorless instead.

To cut a long story short, I've been amazed by what mirrorless systems have to offer, in terms of quality not just smaller cheaper lighter etc.

I certainly realised how much money I'd waisted chasing the latest ff model, and I realised how rediculous technology for technologies sake is, As I mentioned above, Nikon NEEDS to produce the d850, but nobody and I mean nobody needs to buy a d850 to take good pics.

Before any one points it out, I don't expect full time pro's to go mirrorless, I'm sure their d810, or d4s or d750 or 5dmk?
Will still be able to produce amazing results even though the d850 is about to appear, and if you got by with "x" amount of focus points yesterday, or 36mp's yesterday I'm sure you'll still be ok tomorrow.
But if your desperately trying to convince yourself that throwing £3500 at Nikon is going to do miracles for you and your photography, then great, knock yourself out, as others have pointed out, other models and second hand sales may become cheaper as a result.

For those with more sence than money the folley of upgrading for the sake of it is obvious. (I spent a lot of money learning that)
 
f/2.8 said:
Apparently the sensor was designed purely by Nikon and is being manufactured by Samsung
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If true they better make sure it's a good one, a sub par sensor would be a disaster for Nikon.
 
f/2.8 said:
Apparently the sensor was designed purely by Nikon and is being manufactured by Samsung
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the samsung bit is interesting, i wonder if sony are stopping/slowing down on selling to others, the tech in it still sounds like sonys mind you
 
niko said:
the samsung bit is interesting, i wonder if sony are stopping/slowing down on selling to others, the tech in it still sounds like sonys mind you
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Samsung had a BSI sensor in the NX1 back in 2014. Perhaps this is the root of the Nikon buying Samsung camera division rumours.
 
paul.w said:
FYI I sold all my Nikon gear when the penny finally dropped for me.
And yes I did send some money to Africa via water aid. If and when the penny drops for you, maybe you'll do the same.
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Maybe you could sell your computer and donate the proceeds to Africa too, that way you'd be helping them and us at the same time.
 
paul.w said:
But if your desperately trying to convince yourself that throwing £3500 at Nikon is going to do miracles for you and your photography, then great, knock yourself out, as others have pointed out, other models and second hand sales may become cheaper as a result.

For those with more sence than money the folley of upgrading for the sake of it is obvious. (I spent a lot of money learning that)
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I don't see anyone on this thread desperately trying to convince themselves of anything.

Sure, pretty much any decent camera will do for many types of photography, and it hardly needs spelling out that what is behind the viewfinder is enormously more important than the technology in front of it. You don't need to spend a lot of money learning this - most good books on photography mention it in the first chapter (Feininger is almost as vocal about it as you are!). But sometimes a particular camera makes it a lot easier (or possible) to get the shot. My D800, with only 4fps in FX, would make a rather poor sports camera. If I decided I wanted to shoot a lot more bike races, I'd want to get something else. I could ditch the entire system, as you have done, and take a substantial hit on selling and buying equivalent lenses. Or I could look at the D850 and decide a more versatile, better all-round camera would make sense (and let me capture the peloton flying past at 9fps). I would say 'especially after the price has gone down a bit', though with the current state of the pound and its future prospects, that's no longer guaranteed.

Another thing to consider is that the D850 may be one of those camera photographers don't upgrade for a long time. Many hung on to the D700 for nearly a decade, since it had a good balance between speed, low light ability and image quality in a medium size FX body, while its successors were slower and more specialised resolution monsters. It has a significant resale value even now. With the D850 it looks like Nikon is pulling out all the stops again, and making a 'do everything' camera that isn't hampered by features left out to create 'product differentiation' from the single digit bodies.
 
Retune said:
Another thing to consider is that the D850 may be one of those camera photographers don't upgrade for a long time. Many hung on to the D700 for nearly a decade, since it had a good balance between speed, low light ability and image quality in a medium size FX body, while its successors were slower and more specialised resolution monsters. It has a significant resale value even now. With the D850 it looks like Nikon is pulling out all the stops again, and making a 'do everything' camera that isn't hampered by features left out to create 'product differentiation' from the single digit bodies.
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This is my thinking, have pre-ordered 2 of them.
 
Phenomenal Battery Performance: Shoot all day and well into the night with up to 1,840 shots at full resolution or approximately 70 minutes of video on a single charge. Users who opt for the additional control and handling benefits of the optional battery grip can expect up to 5140 shots (CIPA standard).
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I hope that the battery performance is as advertised, as the D500 performance has been very variable for some people.

Negative/Positive Scanning: 3 sizes of RAW files to enhance workflow, including Large (45.4-MP), Medium (25.6-MP) and Small (11.4-MP).
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I'm not sure I have seen the option of different RAW sizes before.

Focus Stacking: Ideal for macro, product and landscape photographers, the Focus Shift Photography feature of the D850 is high resolution meets high magnification. This feature lets the user automatically shoot up to 300 shots at adjustable focus step intervals to infinity which can be easily assembled into a focus-stacked image using third party software.
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I wish my D500 had this option, as it is an interesting use of the AF.

Negative/Positive Scanning: With the optional ES-2 Film Digitizing Adapter and compatible Micro-NIKKOR lens, the camera enables super high-resolution digitizing of 35mm slides or negatives and converts them in-camera to positives
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Not sure I have seen a camera that can do this before. :thinking: A niche option no doubt, but if you can put the feature in, why not.
 
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simonbarker said:
Maybe you could sell your computer and donate the proceeds to Africa too, that way you'd be helping them and us at the same time.
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Or maybe I could just use my computer for as long as its relevant instead of throwing s*** loads of money at the latest fashion thing and running round saying oooh look what I've got.
 
Running round? Luxury.

When I were a lad, we had to get up at 3 in the morning and walk 26 miles to the camera club, where all 79 of us shared a broken Holga and a roll of expired Orwochrom. Well, I say it were a camera club, but it were more of a hole in the ground with an old shoebox for a darkroom, really...
 
A gentleman or indeed a lady should never run, it's unseemly.
 
paul.w said:
Or maybe I could just use my computer for as long as its relevant instead of throwing s*** loads of money at the latest fashion thing and running round saying oooh look what I've got.
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Maybe you should go somewhere where they'd appreciate someone with the arrogance to assume they know better than others how they should spend their money. Then again you're a troll spamming a new camera thread with nonsense so you're probably getting whatever you want out of the attention.
 
paul.w said:
nobody and I mean nobody needs to buy a d850 to take good pics.
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Well I need a D850 as the D810 can no longer do what I need.. ie 4K Video which of course would be of no interest to you. And before you ask when I go out doing landscapes etc I usually have my drone in my bag to and I record in 4K with that so to keep the media consistent I need the camera to records 4K also.

paul.w said:
But if your desperately trying to convince yourself that throwing £3500 at Nikon is going to do miracles for you and your photography, then great, knock yourself out
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Why do you assume people buy cameras in the hope that it will make their photos better? I love my D810 but other than the 4K I mentioned above simple things like a tiltable screen will make life a lot easier when I'm doing Landscapes, Illuminated buttons when I'm doing night photography, Extra FPS and better focus system for when I'm out taking landscapes and a wildlife opportunity appears. All of that and the many features I've not mentioned makes this a no brainer for me and worth every penny.
 
Jase said:
Why do you assume people buy cameras in the hope that it will make their photos better? I love my D810 but other than the 4K I mentioned above simple things like a tiltable screen will make life a lot easier when I'm doing Landscapes, Illuminated buttons when I'm doing night photography, Extra FPS and better focus system for when I'm out taking landscapes and a wildlife opportunity appears. All of that and the many features I've not mentioned makes this a no brainer for me and worth every penny.
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Ooh, look at you showing off that you are planning on getting a D850, and justifying why you want one, not that you need to. Just attention grabbing in a thread on Photography Forum discussing a new camera. :rolleyes:

Just make do with what you have and give all the money to charadee. ;) :LOL:
 
paul.w said:
I did have some quality issues with Nikon (I sold my d600 after I sent it back for a oil and filter change, and I bought a d750 that went back three times, I also had a DL on pre order, but we know what happened there) anyway, around this time I borrowed a Panasonic mirrorless camera and was blown away by what it could produce (no better than Nikon, but certainly no worse and far better than I expected)

I then looked into mirrorless system cameras in general, and realised that I and many others had been paying through the nose unnecessarily, so I gave up plans to buy a canon dslr sold my remaining Nikon gear and opted for mirrorless instead.

To cut a long story short, I've been amazed by what mirrorless systems have to offer, in terms of quality not just smaller cheaper lighter etc.

I certainly realised how much money I'd waisted chasing the latest ff model, and I realised how rediculous technology for technologies sake is, As I mentioned above, Nikon NEEDS to produce the d850, but nobody and I mean nobody needs to buy a d850 to take good pics.

Before any one points it out, I don't expect full time pro's to go mirrorless, I'm sure their d810, or d4s or d750 or 5dmk?
Will still be able to produce amazing results even though the d850 is about to appear, and if you got by with "x" amount of focus points yesterday, or 36mp's yesterday I'm sure you'll still be ok tomorrow.
But if your desperately trying to convince yourself that throwing £3500 at Nikon is going to do miracles for you and your photography, then great, knock yourself out, as others have pointed out, other models and second hand sales may become cheaper as a result.

For those with more sence than money the folley of upgrading for the sake of it is obvious. (I spent a lot of money learning that)
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What mirrorless camera you have?
 
Retune said:
Another thing to consider is that the D850 may be one of those camera photographers don't upgrade for a long time. Many hung on to the D700 for nearly a decade, since it had a good balance between speed, low light ability and image quality in a medium size FX body, while its successors were slower and more specialised resolution monsters. It has a significant resale value even now. With the D850 it looks like Nikon is pulling out all the stops again, and making a 'do everything' camera that isn't hampered by features left out to create 'product differentiation' from the single digit bodies.
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I agree totally. Maybe they're trying to buy enough time to sort out their mirrorless strategy. ;)
 
Retune said:
Another thing to consider is that the D850 may be one of those camera photographers don't upgrade for a long time.
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I got my first D800 somewhere around 4.5 years ago, seems a fair innings. Certainly well paid themselves off over that time, and I imagine that I'd hold onto my d850s for a similar amount of time.
 
paul.w said:
Or maybe I could just use my computer for as long as its relevant instead of throwing s*** loads of money at the latest fashion thing and running round saying oooh look what I've got.
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Fashion thing?

It's clear you think mirrorless is great; good for you. But please, you are ruining this thread with your ill-informed ramblings.
 
inkiboo said:
Fashion thing?

It's clear you think mirrorless is great; good for you. But please, you are ruining this thread with your ill-informed ramblings.
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Seems to me you aren't helping with your needless rudeness.

Why can't people just let it go, why feel the need to be so rude...
 
Raymond Lin said:
May be that's why Nikon is in financial trouble ! That the users hang on to them for a LONGGGKGGG time.
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Damned if they do ... damned if they don't. If people felt they were keep being pushed to upgrade they would moan.
 
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