Nikon D800......

Cagey75 said:
I find it just as easy to use as my old D90. I don't get all this "unforgiving" talk that we see on forums. I've never felt that it is.
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Thanks Cagey, could it simply be that you have really good technique, and as such you've never noticed a problem whereas others have? I know that this camera/photography malarky is very subjective without any benchmarking.

I'm going to hire one to see how it is in my shakey hands. :D

I think I will love the croppability though based on Gramps images and others. My longest reach lens is 70-200 (+1.7x TC) which isn't great on FF.
 
To be honest, I would never claim to have great technique in any way, shape or form :) I just ... shoot! I reckon I'm pretty good at handling, I would say I'm not a shaker as such, though I do feel it when I'm aware of slower shutter speeds, like anyone else. If I know I'm at 1/20, I'm suddenly more aware, and I tend to take a deep breath, and hold it when taking the shot, with the cam pulled in as close to me, comfortably, as possible. I'll take a few in that stance to make sure and use the best one.

That's the same with any camera I feel, I don't see why the D800 gets this rep for being more stubborn/awkward/unforgiving - when you can always up your ISO to get that bit faster exposure. I really think it offers very usable images, in most situations, up to 6400! and if you can't get a decent shutter speed up to that range, then re-think that shot maybe :)

I'm not taking sports here, if sports shooters need more speed, then maybe it's not for them, get a D4 - but in general use i do not see why it's unforgiving in any way.

I find it is more forgiving, in fact, than a D90 at ISO 100-800 indoors, without flash. My old D90 and D200 would give me terrible trouble, because I didn't like to push either too far up the ISO range, and I found myself using flash on those, indoor, much more than on the D800. Just my personal experience.

As for crop-ability, this here is a massive crop, the bird was way up in a tree above me when shooting, and longest i had was my 150mm sigma:



Wild Robin, Phoenix park, Dublin by Cagey75, on Flickr

I mean, seriously, on the full image the bird was a dot
 
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Cagey75 said:
As for crop-ability, this here is a massive crop, the bird was way up in a tree above me when shooting, and longest i had was my 150mm sigma:


I mean, seriously, on the full image the bird was a dot
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Can we see the uncropped image please
 
Has anyone else ever had the D800 image preview hang on them?

Once or twice a day, on pressing the 'play' button to view the last shot, I just get an egg-timer. If I keep trying, I get nowhere. I have to power cycle before it will let me view the photo.

I thought maybe it's a memory card issue. I'm using a posh Lexar Pro 1000x 16GB card. I usually buy Sandisk, so it's new to me. I also have a 16GB Sandisk Extreme SDHC in as an overspill.

Anyway, I am interested to know if this is a known problem, and if there's a fix.
 
Yammer said:
Has anyone else ever had the D800 image preview hang on them?

Once or twice a day, on pressing the 'play' button to view the last shot, I just get an egg-timer. If I keep trying, I get nowhere. I have to power cycle before it will let me view the photo.

I thought maybe it's a memory card issue. I'm using a posh Lexar Pro 1000x 16GB card. I usually buy Sandisk, so it's new to me. I also have a 16GB Sandisk Extreme SDHC in as an overspill.

Anyway, I am interested to know if this is a known problem, and if there's a fix.
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I am getting the same thing sometimes and I am using a sandisk card.
 
Gary Coyle said:
Can we see the uncropped image please
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I have a similar example if it helps at all:

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Hi all just pressed the button on a D800 and have been doing some searches on third party grips, I've done a search and its not thrown up too much, so to save me going brain dead searching this entire thread, anyone have any recommendations..... The DSTE unit with high power battery looks good, anyone using one or another brand they can recommend

Thanks in Advance
 
Using a Pixel Vertax one here.... with 8x Sony Eneloop batteries I reckon that's a better combo than a EN-EL18, especially as the eneloops can retain a charge for a very long time unused.
 
micloi said:
I have a similar example if it helps at all:

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That is pretty impressive.. are you using the D800 or have you just not bothered updating your camera equipment in your profile?? It still shows a 7D..
 
Part of what Cagey wrote:-
Cagey75 said:
That's the same with any camera I feel, I don't see why the D800 gets this rep for being more stubborn/awkward/unforgiving - when you can always up your ISO to get that bit faster exposure. I really think it offers very usable images, in most situations, up to 6400! and if you can't get a decent shutter speed up to that range, then re-think that shot maybe :)
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I think that folk have just possibly not expressed themselves accurately, Keith.
D800 unforgiving in that they found their techniques and habits with other cameras produced unsharp images with the D800.
Of course, you are right - up the ISO/sort out anti camera shake techniques and the problem disappears and the D800 is then as easy to use as their previous camera.
 
micloi said:
Changed to Nikon a month ago. Need to update my equipment list!
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Yep.. noticed that on the thread where you purchased the "Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di LD".. I missed out on that!! I am looking to move to D800 pretty soon.. within the next 2 months.. is your 70-200 a VR1 or VRII?? I might go for that..
 
I`m struggling like crap with birds in flight with the D800. Whether a 500 or 300 F4. I have ruled out the lenses, the camera bodies, so I figure it must be my ineptitude.


But it is not bad for wildlife stuff.




Peregrine juvenile 1 copy by Fracster, on Flickr
 
That is a stunning pic Ade....
 
rajp said:
That is a stunning pic Ade....
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Cheers, pretty much full frame withthe 300 F4 and 1.4 tc.

But, I have the exact same settings in both my 700 and 800, the 700 is superb, the 800 is worse. I have tried upping the shutter speed to 1/4000 and above, but I just cannot get birds in flight right with it. It must be something that I am doing wrong, the lenses are fine, the bodies are,unless I have missed something new to the D800.

I have tried single point focus,9 and 21 point, it just does not deliver in flight shots like the 700.

I`ll keep practising and trialling new settings,i`ll get there.
 
fracster said:
Cheers, pretty much full frame withthe 300 F4 and 1.4 tc.

But, I have the exact same settings in both my 700 and 800, the 700 is superb, the 800 is worse. I have tried upping the shutter speed to 1/4000 and above, but I just cannot get birds in flight right with it. It must be something that I am doing wrong, the lenses are fine, the bodies are,unless I have missed something new to the D800.

I have tried single point focus,9 and 21 point, it just does not deliver in flight shots like the 700.

I`ll keep practising and trialling new settings,i`ll get there.
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Like me for the sports Ade, while it might have the AF of the D4 it just doesn't seem to cut it like the D700/D3/D3S
 
Gary Coyle said:
Like me for the sports Ade, while it might have the AF of the D4 it just doesn't seem to cut it like the D700/D3/D3S
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Nah then Gary, we are either both right about the AF,both wrong or both crap photographers then..................:D
 
I'm not sure what exactly has changed or exactly what it is,but I'm sure there were posts on FM forums regarding focus trap not being on the d800 but on the d700.

Something about using bk button focus and even if set to focus it will release the shutter regardless. I may be well of the mark though, will see if I can dig up the thread.
 
pmac said:
I'm not sure what exactly has changed or exactly what it is,but I'm sure there were posts on FM forums regarding focus trap not being on the d800 but on the d700.

Something about using bk button focus and even if set to focus it will release the shutter regardless. I may be well of the mark though, will see if I can dig up the thread.
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I think that is the problem i`m encountering Pete,if you could dig up the thread,I would appreciate it.
 
The D700 had Trap focus in that the camera could be set up on a support and left to auto trigger when the subject flew through and tripped the shutter the instant focus was achieved. D800 cannot do that.

Trap focus on the D800 seems to be a little different Set CSM #a4 to AF-On Only and CSM #a2 to Focus Priority.

That said, today I had my D800E plus 70-200mm f.4 Nikkor tripod mounted 2 metres from my blue tit nest box with the aim of catching birds in flight. Aperture varied from f6.7 -f9. I tried shutter speeds up to 1/3000th. Camera was on Continuous High speed shooting and triggered by wireless remote. I shot over 350 pics and none were sharp. I began to doubt the lens or camera, but I put a paper map on a wall and took test shots - pin sharp !
 
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Cheers fellas, time to do some reading up methinks.
 
really nice crops from D800 :)
here is my example :

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and cropped

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micloi said:
Lovely shot and detail
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The DX mode was one of the reasons I went for the 800 Michael. I got fed up of waiting for the fabled D300 replacement ,high ISO capable ,new crop body.

The 800 is pretty much both crop and DX in one body, albeit sacrificing FPS.The video mode works in both FX and DX,a feature I did noit think I would use,but probably will now.

Yes,I am having some issues with the camera, maybe down to me, but all in all, it is a decent thing to use.
 
fracster said:
Cheers fellas, time to do some reading up methinks.
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There has been quite a lot written about the settings that permit D800 shutter to be fired without focus being achieved despite the CSM items being set so as to precisely avoid that happening.

Some info here:-

http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=430&topic_id=12664&mode=full

and here:-

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/41180153

The issue has been raised with Nikon (and I don't say "problem") because it appears it is not down to any fault although some would say it is a design fault. Somewhere in all the posts in the 2nd link is a reply from Nikon that more or less states it is just a niggle.
 
Pookeyhead said:
Using a Pixel Vertax one here.... with 8x Sony Eneloop batteries I reckon that's a better combo than a EN-EL18, especially as the eneloops can retain a charge for a very long time unused.
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Cheers will look into one.
 
Fracster, Bastic, please stop! I haven't really got a spare £2000 at the mo, and your shots aren't helping me! :)
 
Osmo said:
Fracster, Bastic, please stop! I haven't really got a spare £2000 at the mo, and your shots aren't helping me! :)
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:)
Shall I add that I was using only 105mm that day? ;)
 
Not very scientific and theres no birds about but this was shot with the D800 in FX mode with a Nikon 400mm f/2.8 with a Nikon 1.4x attached in my back garden

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Couple more, again with D800 in FX mode with a Nikon 400mm f/2.8 with a Nikon 1.4x attached

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That's insane detail cropped makes me want one even more !
 
Arggghh....h This mooring I talked myself out of the D800 and back in to the D600 but I love the detail in those shots.
 
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