Nikon D800......

pmac said:
At the current difference I would consider if you realy need the slightly sharper E.

Having ownes both it is sharper, by how much thats hard to say. I know I use at most half the amount of sharpening in light room compaired to the standard d800.

Also might be worth considering moire as its ment to inhibit this more also. Ive noticed it a few times the most notable was recently when shoiting a bird... either a duck or pigeon I cant remeber and it was wide open either with a 50 1.8 or 70-200 .
on my phone so cant check but will post the shot later for u to see. It wasnt that bad though. But sometjing I never notuced with my d700.

You alos get nx2 with the E which alone is worth nearly £200. Again I would consider id uou wouls actualy use it or not..ive still not.

I only went for the E after my d800 was returned due to a fault and them not having the standard back instock before my trip, plus they payed 2/3 of the difference.
Had this not been the case it would probanly have been the standard I bought again.
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Thanks Peter, I already have CaptureNX2 so no advantage, looks like the D800 and save a few quid
 
Martyn... said:
Cheers for that Ade, I was looking at a D4, but the crop ability of the D800 if required is a big plus, that and the fact it is lighter and cheaper ... I may be getting wealthier but I am not getting any younger :D

Do you have the D800 or D800e? From my investigation there is not much between them.
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800 mate. Can`t comment on the "E" model, never used one.
 
Martyn... said:
Is there much difference between the D800 & D800e ... rather is it worth the extra cost for the D800e.
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I was lucky enough to get an extended loan of both cameras prior to buying, and I ended up going for the D800. The extra sharpness wasn't worth it, and not always apparent. I also do a lot of studio work and the moiré would have done my head in.

There seems to be an even bigger price gap between the two cameras now as well, so I'd say don't bother.
 
Pookeyhead said:
I was lucky enough to get an extended loan of both cameras prior to buying, and I ended up going for the D800. The extra sharpness wasn't worth it, and not always apparent. I also do a lot of studio work and the moiré would have done my head in.

There seems to be an even bigger price gap between the two cameras now as well, so I'd say don't bother.
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Thanks David

From what I have seen there is not much in it with regards to sharpness, and with it's use mainly for birds and bugs any moire would do my head in.

Looks like it's going to be the D800 :thumbs:
 
Having purchased and now got the D800 I sorely missed having a grip for it. Looked on that well known camera price comparison site and spotted a UK company selling a genuine Nikon grip £40 less than anyone other company so I bought it. That company has now upped their price by that amount at least overnight, so I think I got a bargain.

I did look at third party grips in detail and loads of research but overall the general opinion was the quality wasn't quite up to Nikon standard, and with the lower price I paid I went for it.

Realspeed
 
I got NX2 when I bought my D800, thought it was part of the package.
 
Planning on getting a d800 in the next couple of weeks so just a quick question really, which make of cards are people using with theirs and also what capacity?
Thanks in advance.
 
Hi, I use SanDisk Ultra 16gb in mine and get just on 200 shots at the highest possible setting.
 
pmac said:
I've got a 32gb sandisk extreme 60mb/s cf and a 32mb sandisk 45mb/s sd in mine all the time, each card holds around 400 14bit uncompressed raw files.
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I use the same combo. No problems. No real need for faster. If you need to shoot faster than these cards can deliver, then you've bought the wrong camera if you ask me. The D800 is slow... it's not built for speed.
 
Couple of Sandisk 16GBs. No idea of the speed - I seldom hit the buffer so it's mostly irrelevant. Not sure how many they store since I shoot the D800 tethered a lot ;)
 
Pookeyhead said:
I use the same combo. No problems. No real need for faster. If you need to shoot faster than these cards can deliver, then you've bought the wrong camera if you ask me. The D800 is slow... it's not built for speed.
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6 frame a second with the grip is not exactly slow in the Dslr world, maybe not sport as a professional photographer but for the amateur is perfectly acceptable.
 
pmac said:
I don't look into the fps as I rarely use my camera like that. But I'm sure that's with grip and dx mode only
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Grip ups the fps to 5 in FX and 6 in DX I believe.

Edit: I use Sandisk extreme pro 95mb/s
 
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L0rdMike said:
Grip ups the fps to 5 in FX and 6 in DX I believe.

Edit: I use Sandisk extreme pro 95mb/s
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No, shooting FX only ever gets you 4fps regardless if you use a grip or not, you can increase fps to 5 using the 1.2x crop image area and 6fps when used with the grip with an EN-EL18 battery or AA's fitted in the grip and a EN-EL15 in the body and selecting DX image area crop mode

Frame rates also drop at low temperatures or when the battery is low.
Frame rates also drop at slow shutter speeds or when vibration
reduction (available with VR lenses) or auto ISO sensitivity control
is on, or when the battery is low.
 
Gary Coyle said:
No, shooting FX only ever gets you 4fps regardless if you use a grip or not, you can increase fps to 5 using the 1.2x crop image area and 6fps when used with the grip with an EN-EL18 battery or AA's fitted in the grip and a EN-EL15 in the body and selecting DX image area crop mode

Frame rates also drop at low temperatures or when the battery is low.
Frame rates also drop at slow shutter speeds or when vibration
reduction (available with VR lenses) or auto ISO sensitivity control
is on, or when the battery is low.
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is that for all camera the VR and the cold thing?
I never used continuous shooting, not my type of photography but is good to know before you spend £300 on a grip
 
fred2511 said:
6 frame a second with the grip is not exactly slow in the Dslr world, maybe not sport as a professional photographer but for the amateur is perfectly acceptable.
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In crop mode, yeah. In FF it's a rather pedestrian 4fps.
 
I was at Silverstone on Sunday and used the D800 all day, on paper the 4fps is slow but if you have a fast enough card to clear the buffer you should be fine, that's normally my biggest issue. I had my gripped D300s with me but never felt the need to use it because I was missing anything. Of course the caveat being that on a race track the cars usually come round again for another go and are fairly predictable, maybe for sports/wildlife it's not enough if you only have one chance.
I do love how much flexibility I can get with cropping on the D800, that and the move to FX have been a massive leap from the D300s.
 
Pookeyhead said:
I was lucky enough to get an extended loan of both cameras prior to buying, and I ended up going for the D800. The extra sharpness wasn't worth it, and not always apparent. I also do a lot of studio work and the moiré would have done my head in.

There seems to be an even bigger price gap between the two cameras now as well, so I'd say don't bother.
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That really did it for me, was planning on getting the D800e at the original price difference but it was more like £500 by the time I did.
 
Moreorless said:
That really did it for me, was planning on getting the D800e at the original price difference but it was more like £500 by the time I did.
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Yes, that is way far too much.
BTW I have tried to photograph things that could (seems to be a number of variable factors in the equation according to the theory) produce moire just to get an appreciation of the "problem". Never seen it yet.

If the D800 and D800E are the same camera apart from the absence of the anti-aliasing filter in the latter then why do these cameras have separate firmware updates.
 
arclight said:
If the D800 and D800E are the same camera apart from the absence of the anti-aliasing filter in the latter then why do these cameras have separate firmware updates.
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Maybe the removal of the filter leads to needing some minor tweaks to sensor algorithms ? I wouldn't loose too much sleep over it though.....
 
Shoot the soft pouch/bag that the pro glass comes in... That shows what I under stand to be moire. Though even my d800 exhibited it.

It's not just these two that will produce it . ive seen posts regarding the 5dmk2 showing it on suits at a wedding.
 
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from lensesforhire
Great service very simple to use website with no deposit and it arrived in less then 24 hour :-)
 
f99bokeh said:
Maybe the removal of the filter leads to needing some minor tweaks to sensor algorithms ? I wouldn't loose too much sleep over it though.....
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No, indeed - only discovered it when I inadvertently tried to update my D800E with D800 firmware. Camere would not recognise it.
 
pmac said:
Shoot the soft pouch/bag that the pro glass comes in... That shows what I under stand to be moire. Though even my d800 exhibited it.

It's not just these two that will produce it . ive seen posts regarding the 5dmk2 showing it on suits at a wedding.
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I have read that, too.
 
Ozei said:
Yes.
  • Main edit in NX2
  • Save as TIF
  • Import TIF to Photoshop for anything that can't be done in NX2
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This is exactly my workflow too, though I also find that resizing (downsampling) in NX2 yields better results than Photoshop's algorithms.
 
Pookeyhead said:
You only get 6fps in DX crop mode, so why not just use a D700 or a D3s?

The D800 is SLOOOW... and not a camera I'd be confident shooting sports or press with. When you're getting paid for your images, and there are others there who will pick up the shots you miss, you can't be selective.

The D800 is really a crap camera for sports and press work.

...but for everything else, I can think of nothing better.
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Because its handier have it all in the one?

Ok, maybe it's crap for sports in general, doesn't mean you can't use it for that purpose though. The guy who brought it up says he already uses it for polo and motorsports. So it is possible. I don't care so much, tbh, as I never shoot sports, so I don't need to worry on such things.

On the standard Vs E, never used the non E, but I will say I've not used sharpening since I got the D800E. The price difference wasn't all that great when I got it. And we'll, they only had the E in the store I went to, that was how easy the choice was. Wouldn't have mattered to me either way, either was gong to be a huge jump from my D90
 
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Getting a D800.. How good is this for Astro Photography??? I am visiting West Coast California and looking to take a trip to Death Valley at night to do some shots there.. Is the D800 good for that? I have a D300s at the moment and above ISO800, it's pretty crap.. All the photos I have seen on the web of this type of photography are at ISO3200 to try and get the exposure of 25 to 30 secs and people using Canon 5DMK2 or 3.. Well I be disappointed with the D800??
 
It depends what you mean by astro? If you are attaching it to a scope, weight is the issue. I attached mine to my scope, and had real problems balancing the mount as a result.

Technically it should perform well, but you will have a much wider field of view compared to a DX camera.
 
Pookeyhead said:
It depends what you mean by astro? If you are attaching it to a scope, weight is the issue. I attached mine to my scope, and had real problems balancing the mount as a result.

Technically it should perform well, but you will have a much wider field of view compared to a DX camera.
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Apologies. I should have clarified. I am looking to do photography where you can see the milky way including the landscape..
 
I have no personal experience with astro photography, but I've heard of the D800 sensor getting hot, so it might not be good for astro and very long shutter times (hot pixels).
 
AchimT said:
I have no personal experience with astro photography, but I've heard of the D800 sensor getting hot, so it might not be good for astro and very long shutter times (hot pixels).
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Ahh does this mean 30 sec exposures are bad for it???
 
I don't know whether it would already happen after 30 seconds. I remember reading postings where the photographer mentioned hot pixels after exposure times of several minutes.
 
AchimT said:
I have no personal experience with astro photography, but I've heard of the D800 sensor getting hot, so it might not be good for astro and very long shutter times (hot pixels).
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rajp said:
Ahh does this mean 30 sec exposures are bad for it???
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AchimT said:
I don't know whether it would already happen after 30 seconds. I remember reading postings where the photographer mentioned hot pixels after exposure times of several minutes.
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Nooooo.....

It;s fine. I've left mine exposing until the battery crapped out with no problems. There is NO danger of overheating, or damage.

When people refer to "hot" pixels, it's noise generated by, yes.. high temps, but it's not dangerous... you'll just get the odd random red, green or blue pixel.. easy retouched.
 
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