New 5D MK3 revealed

Craikeybaby said:
...SD card slot should mean you can use eye-fi card, rather than the Canon adaptor, although you won't be able to do all the camera control etc.
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That's a massive plus point for this new camera... just can't justify replacing my Mk II !!
 
It looks a reasonable spec, cannot seem to find out whether it can meter off the outer focus points rather than central one only.
 
Digifrog said:
The strong AA filter mentioned above is a little off putting.

edit: If that really is the case
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Very interesting indeed. 40D had a very strong one and it clearly couldn't capture anywhere near the amount of fine details like the 1dsII. Some people also suggested, that 1DsIII (and 1DIII) had stronger AA than mkii, and 5Dii even more so. I am probably going to say that 1Dsii does look slightly sharper than 1diii at 100%. Now canon admitted that they went with weaker AA in 1Dx and still produced higher res camera to 1Dsiii. So how will 5Diii stack up? 18mp is enough if its clean.
No AA is another extremity. Dealing with moire is tough and there are plenty of examples on the net of this happening. I'd probably get a regular D800 if I had to pick between the two - 36mp is crazy high anyway.

Also let's not forget that JPEGs always look softer and blotchy due to the way canon algorithm works. I'm going to hold off from making any conclusions until I at least see some RAW files and Dxo analysis.
 
I have been holding off going FF, until the mk3 became a reality, to see what it had to offer.
As my main interest is landscapes, there is no way I would pay double the price of an mk2 for what is has to offer the landscape photographer. The only thing that really catches my eye is the AF.
I also tend to agree with previous posts as to why we should fill Canon’s pockets with an extra £800. You could get a holiday:cool: to the US, buy one over there and still have change against the UK launch price.
 
Peter10d said:
I have been holding off going FF, until the mk3 became a reality, to see what it had to offer.
As my main interest is landscapes, there is no way I would pay double the price of an mk2 for what is has to offer the landscape photographer. The only thing that really catches my eye is the AF.
I also tend to agree with previous posts as to why we should fill Canon’s pockets with an extra £800. You could get a holiday:cool: to the US, buy one over there and still have change against the UK launch price.
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Does that include the VAT and import duty when you enter customs?

P.s. I'm off to hong kong the first week in April....duty free in the airport seems best bet!

That or I plan to go to NYC in October so might pick it up then if I'm there already.
 
modchild said:
As it's been priced at $3,500 in the states, that works out at £2,195 and at that price I'd have my 5D2 and 7D up for sale to get one. However, as the powers that be have decided the UK has to pay an £800 surcharge for whatever I wont be bothering. I hate getting shafted by anybody, and £800 is too big a shaft to take. I'll have a look into getting one from Panamoz, One Stop Digital or similar when it's out, but I will NOT pay an extra £800 for nothing.
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Aren't most US prices quoted before tax? If you add VAT to that price then the UK price isn't far off the mark.

Alan
 
rrp of the 5D2 was not £1500 lol

Ajophotog said:
Licence to print money I think, add a few focus points and ask for twice the cost of it's predecessor, I was thinking the value of my mk2 was going down but priced like this I fear it won't touch the mk2 2nd hand value too much.
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daugirdas said:
Very interesting indeed. 40D had a very strong one and it clearly couldn't capture anywhere near the amount of fine details like the 1dsII. Some people also suggested, that 1DsIII (and 1DIII) had stronger AA than mkii, and 5Dii even more so. I am probably going to say that 1Dsii does look slightly sharper than 1diii at 100%. Now canon admitted that they went with weaker AA in 1Dx and still produced higher res camera to 1Dsiii. So how will 5Diii stack up? 18mp is enough if its clean.
No AA is another extremity. Dealing with moire is tough and there are plenty of examples on the net of this happening. I'd probably get a regular D800 if I had to pick between the two - 36mp is crazy high anyway.

Also let's not forget that JPEGs always look softer and blotchy due to the way canon algorithm works. I'm going to hold off from making any conclusions until I at least see some RAW files and Dxo analysis.
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Is moire a problem in landscape? I think selective fixing of moire is pretty easy by using gaussian blur but how effective this will be remains to be seen.

I'm thinking of getting the D800E, deliberately incurring mild diffraction by shooting at f/10-11 and hoping this mild diffraction will stem any moire from ever happening. But of course this defeats the object of having the E model so if moire is relatively rare in landscape I will revert to f/9 and take full advantage of the modified AA filter.

It's all still up in the air atm, but next time I bump into you in Clevedon I'll share the pride of owning whichever camera I go for.

I will be watching D800E landscape images on Flickr like a hawk, as I will with the 5D3 ;)
 
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modchild said:
As it's been priced at $3,500 in the states, that works out at £2,195
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The pre-tax UK price is £2400, so there's only £200 in it and that difference can probably be accounted for by fluctuations in the exchange rate....
 
you are comparing a camera that has been out for 3 years to one thats not actually gone on sale yet.

Peter10d said:
I have been holding off going FF, until the mk3 became a reality, to see what it had to offer.
As my main interest is landscapes, there is no way I would pay double the price of an mk2 for what is has to offer the landscape photographer. The only thing that really catches my eye is the AF.
I also tend to agree with previous posts as to why we should fill Canon’s pockets with an extra £800. You could get a holiday:cool: to the US, buy one over there and still have change against the UK launch price.
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Aren't most US prices quoted before tax?

Yes, but in some states the sales tax (like New Hampshire), sales tax is zero (or at least it used to be)
 
lodious said:
Aren't most US prices quoted before tax?

Yes, but in some states the sales tax (like New Hampshire), sales tax is zero (or at least it used to be)
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If you take the pre tax price ($3500), convert to £ and add VAT and its pretty close in price.

Seen a few posts that say "oh all they did is add a few focus points". Erm, no this is a completely new system from the previous model, new digic processor, new sensor as well as all sorts of other enhancements. I just wonder what people actually expected?

The addition of the SD card is interesting, given it was omitted from the 7D. I wonder if long term they are planning to ditch CF cards ?
 
Craft said:
If you take the pre tax price ($3500), convert to £ and add VAT and its pretty close in price.
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$3500 converted to GDP via xe.com = £2210

Add VAT at 20% = 2210 + 442 = £2652

UK list price £2999

Difference 2999 - 2652 = £347

Close? No where near!!
 
Craft said:
If you take the pre tax price ($3500), convert to £ and add VAT and its pretty close in price.

Seen a few posts that say "oh all they did is add a few focus points". Erm, no this is a completely new system from the previous model, new digic processor, new sensor as well as all sorts of other enhancements. I just wonder what people actually expected?

The addition of the SD card is interesting, given it was omitted from the 7D. I wonder if long term they are planning to ditch CF cards ?
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They have been working with pros during the development of this and one thing that they asked for is a dual card slot. The 5D being a "half" body, it make sense to use SD card as the backup slot. It is smaller so doesn't take up much room and it is also cheaper to buy.

The SD card also makes sense in terms of back up, you will now always know which set of cards holds the RAW and which one holds the large jpeg.

In the mkiii they have basically pulled the 5D closer to a pro series and further away consumer body.
 
or8it said:
$3500 converted to GDP via xe.com = £2210

Add VAT at 20% = 2210 + 442 = £2652

UK list price £2999

Difference 2999 - 2652 = £347

Close? No where near!!
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Plus if anyone did want to bring one back from the states, surely if they put it in a camera back with a lens on it no-one would know. Unless there happened to be a customs worker who was also a photographer!
 
or8it said:
$3500 converted to GDP via xe.com = £2210

Add VAT at 20% = 2210 + 442 = £2652

UK list price £2999

Difference 2999 - 2652 = £347

Close? No where near!!
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The $3500 is before US sales tax.
 
well my father in law can get me one delivered to his door in canada after tax for what amounts to £2360 then he arrives in england on april 3rd.

:):):):)

very tempted
 
Craft said:
Not sure where you get 2,195 from, the exchange rate isn't 1.6 to the pound ?

US prices will not include sales tax, its 8.8% in NY so if you bought from B&H you'd actually pay $3808
If you take the $2500, add 20% for VAT = $4200, divide by 1.5 to convert to sterling gives £2800. Still cheaper but not be the amount it would first appear
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I'm pretty sure $2500 + 20% doesn't equal $4200......
 
redhed17 said:
Surely if one of the advantages is being able to crop whilst retaining quality, then won't 36MP gives more options for cropping while keeping quality.

Pre thorough reviews anyway. ;) :lol:
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Yes technically you could crop more but my point was that even with 'only' 22mp it's more than enough.
 
Vertigo1 said:
The $3500 is before US sales tax.
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Even still sales tax doesn't take it to uk equivalent price we're being pumped over here !
 
desantnik said:
Canon seem to trumpet the 59ms shutter lag on their feature highlights.... thats on a par with the 40D or the 7D but nowhere near the 1D... or recent hardware who's model number start with, instead of end with, a D.
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Smaller mirrors in the 40 & 7 d etc
 
joescrivens said:
well my father in law can get me one delivered to his door in canada after tax for what amounts to £2360 then he arrives in england on april 3rd.

:):):):)

very tempted
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Would he not have to illegally 'smuggle' it to avoid duty?
 
daugirdas said:
Also let's not forget that JPEGs always look softer and blotchy due to the way canon algorithm works. I'm going to hold off from making any conclusions until I at least see some RAW files and Dxo analysis.
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DXO analysis please lol waste of time numbers that are pretty meaningless
 
grotty said:
Would he not have to illegally 'smuggle' it to avoid duty?
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Bringing your own camera on holiday does not require a false floor in your case lol
 
POAH said:
Bringing your own camera on holiday does not require a false floor in your case lol
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He wouldn't be bringing his own camera though would he, it's purchased outside the UK for delivery into the UK so liable to duty.
 
grotty said:
He wouldn't be bringing his own camera though would he, it's purchased outside the UK for delivery into the UK so liable to duty.
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nope, he lives in canada - thats the beauty of it, he'll be taking it back with him, except he'll forget it --whoops!
 
Raymond Lin said:
They have been working with pros during the development of this and one thing that they asked for is a dual card slot. The 5D being a "half" body, it make sense to use SD card as the backup slot. It is smaller so doesn't take up much room and it is also cheaper to buy.

The SD card also makes sense in terms of back up, you will now always know which set of cards holds the RAW and which one holds the large jpeg.

In the mkiii they have basically pulled the 5D closer to a pro series and further away consumer body.
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I think the 5DIII is closer to a pro series in some ways, not least the AF improvement which has long been overdue, but the SD card is definitely consumer. Maybe Canon don't want to adopt the XQD format, but I think they could have got two CF cards in there if they wanted to. :shrug:

SD cards are not a robust format. I've had a very worn one (not mine) disintegrate in my fingers. I can't even flex a CF card, and after easily breaking one, I wouldn't try to flex a SD card.

SD cards may be ubiquitous, but they are not a Pro format. And before some smart a*se says that they use SD cards and they sell sooo many images, it is not Pro format because of the manufactured strength and the comparatively slow speed when compared with CF and XQD. OMHO of course. ;)


It seems to me that in some ways the 5DIII has got closer to the D700 in some features, AF and FPS, and the D800 has been designed to better what Nikon thought the 5DIII was going to be.
 
joescrivens said:
nope, he lives in canada - thats the beauty of it, he'll be taking it back with him, except he'll forget it --whoops!
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Of course he will...How would it stand with warranty, do you need a UK VAT receipt for Canon UK to uphold it?
 
grotty said:
Of course he will...How would it stand with warranty, do you need a UK VAT receipt for Canon UK to uphold it?
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I think lenses are international but bodies are local.

Which is why i am always sceptical about buying bodies abroad.
 
I suppose a warranty is only worth something if there's a problem.

EDIT: I suppose if you have kids that grab stuff or a dog that jumps on your stuff or are really clumsy or you have a massive rage and want to throw something or your house blows up or there's a flood or other really unfortunate things happen, then it may be covered under some form of paid-for protection from an insurer.

Is that better?
 
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Excellent; defrauding insurance companies and HM revenue and customs on just one page.
 
or8it said:
$3500 converted to GDP via xe.com = £2210

Add VAT at 20% = 2210 + 442 = £2652

UK list price £2999

Difference 2999 - 2652 = £347

Close? No where near!!
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I don't think you'd get anywhere near that rate on a credit card, that looks like the mid market rate to me.
Most credit cards load exchange rates with a 2-3% fee.

In any case you'd save a couple of hundred quid as lose the warranty on the body.. TBH you'd probably be best buying off Kerso as you'd keep a warranty intact.
 
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