New 5D MK3 revealed

As it's been priced at $3,500 in the states, that works out at £2,195 and at that price I'd have my 5D2 and 7D up for sale to get one. However, as the powers that be have decided the UK has to pay an £800 surcharge for whatever I wont be bothering. I hate getting shafted by anybody, and £800 is too big a shaft to take. I'll have a look into getting one from Panamoz, One Stop Digital or similar when it's out, but I will NOT pay an extra £800 for nothing.
 
arad85 said:
Apart from the "full frame sensor". It's just a headline that it will do 1080p HD video. No more, no less.
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correct me if I am wrong but the 5d mark 2 didn't have a 22.3 MP full frame sensor? :suspect:
 
modchild said:
As it's been priced at $3,500 in the states, that works out at £2,195 and at that price I'd have my 5D2 and 7D up for sale to get one. However, as the powers that be have decided the UK has to pay an £800 surcharge for whatever I wont be bothering. I hate getting shafted by anybody, and £800 is too big a shaft to take. I'll have a look into getting one from Panamoz, One Stop Digital or similar when it's out, but I will NOT pay an extra £800 for nothing.
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thats pre tax.

after tax it would be more like £2500 so its a £500 price hike
 
Looks very good to me. Really like the idea of having both a CF and SD slot...CF cards can be a bit fiddly when on the road.

Alas, though, I won't be purchasing one either now or in the future (2nd hand) as you can't install a different focus screen, painful for us nutters who shoot old lenses and want to use shallow depth of field in available light. Booo!
 
joescrivens said:
correct me if I am wrong but the 5d mark 2 didn't have a 22.3 MP full frame sensor? :suspect:
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Where did I mention the number of pixels? It has a full frame sensor, so adding it in the one line description doesn't add anything new. In the same way 1080p/30 HD video doesn't add anything new.

A "22.3MPixel sensor with HD video" is much less of a marketing statement than "22.3 MP full-frame sensor, 6 fps, 102,400 max ISO, 1080/30p HD". Is there anywhere that says "New features: 22.3 MP full-frame sensor, 6 fps, 102,400 max ISO, 1080/30p HD"? Marketing is all about getting the reader to interpret something that isn't there - which is exactly what you've done: taken the headline specs and inferred that everything is new ;)
 
Isn't is a little bit more than just pixel dimensions that make a sensor different? This quote from here indicates that it's not just the low-light performance that will be improved but the actual quality of light hitting the sensor, perhaps for improved tonal range or something?


The pixel count may be similar to that of the 5D II but the 5D III's sensor is entirely new. The pixel architecture is changed, with a promised increase in photoelectric conversion rate (light is more efficiently converted to readable charge).

Canon has also applied its gapless microlens array, meaning more of the light hitting the sensor gets directed down into the photodiodes. Finally there's a newly-developed on-chip noise reduction system to improve the quality of the information coming off the chip.
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arad85 said:
Where did I mention the number of pixels? It has a full frame sensor, so adding it in the one line description doesn't add anything new. In the same way 1080p/30 HD video doesn't add anything new.
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you took the full frame sensor part out of the sentence without the number of pixels. It said it has a "22.3 MP full-frame sensor" not "22.3 MP and has a full frame sensor"

so the "22.3 MP full-frame sensor" is new, just like everything else in that sentence bar the HD video bit.
 
Some worst case high ISO samples from a pre-production unit:

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/albums/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-low-light-iso-samples

"This test requires extreme amplification of the blue channel (and to a lesser extent the green) relative to the red, accentuating any noise or banding that might be introduced by the camera. This should therefore be considered close to the worst-case scenario - under many situations you'll see less noise at high ISOs, for example when shooting indoors in daylight."
 
Well it looks like the perfect camera for me, I liked the AF and dual card slots on my 1D, but not the bulk. SD card slot should mean you can use eye-fi card, rather than the Canon adaptor, although you won't be able to do all the camera control etc.

Flash/trigger looks good, can't be much more expensive than combining latest 580EX and a pocket wizard. Don't think I'll be getting one though as I hardly use flash.

I will be getting the 5D mk3 to replace my mk1 when the price has come down a bit and I have the money.
 
Craikeybaby said:
Flash/trigger looks good, can't be much more expensive than combining latest 580EX and a pocket wizard. Don't think I'll be getting one though as I hardly use flash.
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Not sure about the flash costing the same as a PW & a flash when you need 2 new flash guns to make one OCF work by radio. (unless I am missing something?)
 
I only skimmed some of the details, but I thought the new 600ex was wireless enabled and could be controlled off camera by enabled bodies.....but again, I could be missing something?! :shrug:
 
Is the new flash and transmitter giving you anything you can't do with Phottix Odin triggers which can be had for £300 a set inc two receivers?

Those high ISO samples look mighty impressive to me, 25600 still looks very good. I'm assuming those are jpegs with in camera NR applied though?
 
joescrivens said:
so the "22.3 MP full-frame sensor" is new, just like everything else in that sentence bar the HD video bit.
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No, the number of pixels is new, the full frame sensor bit is not.

Anyway, we're discussing minutiae here. It's Canon marketing. Who cares if it's new :shrug:
 
arad85 said:
No, the number of pixels is new, the full frame sensor bit is not.

Anyway, we're discussing minutiae here. It's Canon marketing. Who cares if it's new :shrug:
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:bang:

I never said the full frame sensor bit is new! I said that ....... ah you know what, whats teh point. it's minutiae like you said.

anyway the point is HD video isn't new :lol:
 
modchild said:
As it's been priced at $3,500 in the states, that works out at £2,195 and at that price I'd have my 5D2 and 7D up for sale to get one. However, as the powers that be have decided the UK has to pay an £800 surcharge for whatever I wont be bothering. I hate getting shafted by anybody, and £800 is too big a shaft to take. I'll have a look into getting one from Panamoz, One Stop Digital or similar when it's out, but I will NOT pay an extra £800 for nothing.
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You sound surprised that we get shafted, everyone else shafts us so why should canon miss out :lol::lol: we are after all in "Great" Britain and people think we should be paying "greater" prices :thinking:

I might fly over and get it at American prices and claim back the tax lol.

M.
 
Slimbert said:
I only skimmed some of the details, but I thought the new 600ex was wireless enabled and could be controlled off camera by enabled bodies.....but again, I could be missing something?! :shrug:
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So what's going on the camera to trigger the flash?
 
tiler65 said:
So what's going on the camera to trigger the flash?
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Sorry, Tom....I miss-read a diagram this morning, I thought the transmitter was built-in on some of the newer bodies (like Sony do).....but it isn't!! :bonk:

So you'd need the new ST-E3 transmitter.....:(
 
Slimbert said:
Sorry, Tom....I miss-read a diagram this morning, I thought the transmitter was built-in on some of the newer bodies (like Sony do).....but it isn't!! :bonk:

So you'd need the new ST-E3 transmitter.....:(
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The new flash gun sounds great spec wise, but insanely costly and when you have to have the transmitter too it's even more costly.

Think I will stick with my existing setup instead of getting a III or moving to Nikon. Either way I lose money, but not impressed with Canon's pricing strategy.

Of course, real world comparisons await of both cameras.
 
modchild said:
As it's been priced at $3,500 in the states, that works out at £2,195 and at that price I'd have my 5D2 and 7D up for sale to get one. However, as the powers that be have decided the UK has to pay an £800 surcharge for whatever I wont be bothering. I hate getting shafted by anybody, and £800 is too big a shaft to take. I'll have a look into getting one from Panamoz, One Stop Digital or similar when it's out, but I will NOT pay an extra £800 for nothing.
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Not sure where you get 2,195 from, the exchange rate isn't 1.6 to the pound ?

US prices will not include sales tax, its 8.8% in NY so if you bought from B&H you'd actually pay $3808
If you take the $2500, add 20% for VAT = $4200, divide by 1.5 to convert to sterling gives £2800. Still cheaper but not be the amount it would first appear
 
tiler65 said:
Some high iso noise samples here...
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To my untrained eye those are amazingly good :nuts: Even turning ISO up to the max produces a perfectly useable image once you've run it through a Photoshop noise-buster plugin.

Your 5D mk III. Give it to me. NOW. :nuts:

A.
 
Canon seem to trumpet the 59ms shutter lag on their feature highlights.... thats on a par with the 40D or the 7D but nowhere near the 1D... or recent hardware who's model number start with, instead of end with, a D.

I suppose its not supposed to be an action camera, even with 61 point AF.

And people saying about "lots of options for auto-ISO".... how many do you need??? Auto-ISO works best in manual anyway to be honest - where just as in AV or TV modes and static ISO, you are programming 2 of the 3 variables, the camera is sorting the other one. Anything else and I suggest anything could happen!
 
Hi all. i went off to Jessops this lunch time and was expecting them to no only be advertising the mk3 all over the shop but they are now taking pre orders and it has a launch date of March 22nd!!!

They said it will cost £3k for body alone or £3.5 with the 24-70 lens i think it was. interesting
 
desantnik said:
And people saying about "lots of options for auto-ISO".... how many do you need??? Auto-ISO works best in manual anyway to be honest - where just as in AV or TV modes and static ISO, you are programming 2 of the 3 variables, the camera is sorting the other one. Anything else and I suggest anything could happen!
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how do you mean?

If I put it in Av mode and I put my aperture at f/2 but make the minimum shutter speed be 1/200 the camera will keep the ISO at 400 until the shutter goes below 1/200 then the shutter will be 1/200 and the ISO will be what changes

right?
 
Licence to print money I think, add a few focus points and ask for twice the cost of it's predecessor, I was thinking the value of my mk2 was going down but priced like this I fear it won't touch the mk2 2nd hand value too much.
 
Maybe its just my thought process thats wrong... or because in motorsport shutter speed is everything and apertures you have to watch because of TC softness...

So, maybe, for some other disciplines its ok ;-0
 
jonneymendoza said:
Hi all. i went off to Jessops this lunch time and was expecting them to no only be advertising the mk3 all over the shop but they are now taking pre orders and it has a launch date of March 22nd!!!

They said it will cost £3k for body alone or £3.5 with the 24-70 lens i think it was. interesting
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You know when I saw that date I had to check it out and amazingly it doesn't seem to be a typo!!
 
I guess you mean 24-105?
Looks OK and makes the decision I need to make between this a 1dx interesting.

£600+ for a speedlite, makes my quantum qflash look cheap!
 
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Ajophotog said:
Licence to print money I think, add a few focus points and ask for twice the cost of it's predecessor, I was thinking the value of my mk2 was going down but priced like this I fear it won't touch the mk2 2nd hand value too much.
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It is more thn just focus points.

It also has dual cf/sd card slots
New alloy body, akin to that of the 1 series (read Jeff Ascough's review)
2 stop better
50% FPS faster

Plus loads more.

It inherited loads from the 7D and 1Dx before it and selling at half the price of the 1Dx. It is more like a 3 series than a third incarnation of the 5 series.
 
Imagine this in a winter wedding in the darkest of churches. Nice! I'll be waiting six months or maybe more I reckon but want one now
 
The strong AA filter mentioned above is a little off putting.

edit: If that really is the case
 
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Digifrog said:
The strong AA filter mentioned above is a little off putting.

edit: If that really is the case
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Put sample shots from Dpreview aside for a minute. From what I've read from people whose had real work use of the pre production body gives me even more confidence about its low light capabilities.
 
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