New 5D MK3 revealed

"It's not the entire 1D X AF system - because the 5D III doesn't have the 1D X's 100,000 pixel metering sensor to gain tracking information from, nor a dedicated Digic 4 processor to make sense of it all. However, even without them, it's still one of the most comprehensive AF systems on the market and, most importantly, brings the camera much closer to the level of contemporary Nikons." source

Ah, now it's clear.


Edit: Lol, crossed posts!
 
i wonder what the canadian price point is? I have my father in law coming over in april and could pick it up for me :clap::clap:
 
Spiritflier said:
When I watched DPReview's little video this morning, the one thing that struck me was how geared to movies this thing was... I have absolutely ZERO interest in making movies with a stills camera. :shrug:

I daresay all of the new bells and whistles will make for a better camera but at a starting price of three grand, it doesn't compare well to the D800. Canon's greatest strength now lies in the lenses and bodies are where Nikon seems to excel.

You shoot a 50D so I would imagine the change for you would be quite startling but from someone who already shoots a full-frame 21mp Canon, I don't see that the new MKIII is all that much of an upgrade!

I'd have loved to see Canon make two versions... One without video to complement this one!
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Whilst you don't shoot video, an awful lot of 5D mk2's and 7D's are used this way, mostly because of cost and size compared to video cameras.

Yup - a full frame camera is something I'm considering, which is why I'm very interested in this. I'll agree the £3k price is too high but then I'll wait 3 months and the price will settle down to the normal selling point, it always does for any camera release. I can't see it driving down the price of 5D or 5d Mk2's at the moment.

So what features of the upgrade do you think it's missing? I'll agree if you're happy with the Mk2 then I wouldn't be changing. One of the reasons I stuck with my 50D (although I was tempted by the 7D).
 
the Full HD video mode that keeps being spouted - am I wrong in think they have just added 1080p in 30 fps? 24 and 25 fps already have 1080p n the mark 2 - at least it does on my version.

720p als added to 50 and 60 fps - but thats not full HD
 
joescrivens said:
.....720p als added to 50 and 60 fps - but thats not full HD
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I think that may be of interest to general videomakers who want some form of slo-mo function. For web featurettes it'll be great. :)
 
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specialman said:
I think that may be of interest to general videomakers who want some form of slo-mo function. For web featurettes it'll be great.
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I know a few car photographers who shoot videos during the day, behind the scenes type stuff, for the mag website. Extra opportunities.
 
joescrivens said:
the Full HD video mode that keeps being spouted - am I wrong in think they have just added 1080p in 30 fps? 24 and 25 fps already have 1080p n the mark 2 - at least it does on my version.

720p als added to 50 and 60 fps - but thats not full HD
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Is it that they now put 1080p out the hdmi port rather than 720p? Better resolution for the video monitors used for focussing?
 
specialman said:
I think that may be of interest to general videomakers who want some form of slo-mo function. For web featurettes it'll be great.
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Byker28i said:
I know a few car photographers who shoot videos during the day, behind the scenes type stuff, for the mag website. Extra opportunities.
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i know why they will use it, i used to use it on my 7d for that reason,I'm talking about the Full HD feature they are quoting - it's just the addition of 30 fps right?
 
Byker28i said:
Is it that they now put 1080p out the hdmi port rather than 720p? Better resolution for the video monitors used for focussing?
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i don't know, i haven't seen that. But the press release just announces full hd video like its a new thing :shrug:
 
I have seen sample pics and been having a discussion in a canon fanboy forum and many are not happy.

why? because this camera uses way too much AA filter which makes still images blury/vasaline looking but makes video look great.

The AA is stronger then the 7d as well. So its not looking good.
 
joescrivens said:
the Full HD video mode that keeps being spouted - am I wrong in think they have just added 1080p in 30 fps? 24 and 25 fps already have 1080p n the mark 2 - at least it does on my version.
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No, 30fps (actually 29.97) is in the current 5D2 - you just have to have the video format set at NTSC for it to show this.

What has changed in video is the anti-moire processing and all I-frame recording mode. Add to that more control of the camera in video mode without having to install magic lantern. All of these are important to video shooters.
 
jonneymendoza said:
I have seen sample pics and been having a discussion in a canon fanboy forum and many are not happy.

why? because this camera uses way too much AA filter which makes still images blury/vasaline looking but makes video look great.

The AA is stronger then the 7d as well. So its not looking good.
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I saw that too.

However, that should be fixed easily with a firmware update. Add a function to turn it off.
 
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arad85 said:
No, 30fps (actually 29.97) is in the current 5D2 - you just have to have the video format set at NTSC for it to show this.

What has changed in video is the anti-moire processing and all I-frame recording mode. Add to that more control of the camera in video mode without having to install magic lantern. All of these are important to video shooters.
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The changes you mentioned - they arent to do will Full HD then? Or are they?

what more control of the camera has been added other than the audio levels whilst recording?
 
Raymond Lin said:
I saw that too.

However, that should be fixed easily with a firmware update. Add a function to turn it off.
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the AA filter. I'm not sure how you'd turn that off with the firmware, or am I missing what you're saying
 
edster said:
Sweet. Looks as though it has inherited the 1Dx AF system.
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The AF seemed to be the achilles heel of the previous 5D's, so this looks like two or three AF generation leap.

Spiritflier said:
I'd have loved to see Canon make two versions... One without video to complement this one!
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Never going to happen. :shrug:

Just because it is there doesn't mean anything if you don't use it.

I've got video on my D300S and have used it about 3 times in nearly 3 years, more out of interest than anything else.


The use of SD cards seems less than professional to me. Two CF cards or the D800 CF + XQD option would have been better imho.

The price looks expensive compared to the D800. It will be interesting to see the comparison reviews.
 
jonneymendoza said:
i just found out its impossible. its a hardware feature not a software. So u cant turn it off!
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however it can be removed physically - if you want to void your waranty lol

i know of people who removed it in their mark 2's
 
POAH said:
21mp from the 5D2 gace managable file sizes and you could crop while still retaining quality

Thats the big bug for me £600 more but then 36mp is far too much which is what canon are probably banking on. Currently I'm without a camera so have no investment in a system
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Surely if one of the advantages is being able to crop whilst retaining quality, then won't 36MP gives more options for cropping while keeping quality.

Pre thorough reviews anyway. ;) :lol:
 
joescrivens said:
The changes you mentioned - they arent to do will Full HD then? Or are they?
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They will improve the look of video. I don't know why people are wondering what's changed here - it's not like Canon are claiming Full HD is new, just like they aren't claiming full frame is new on the 5DIII,.

joescrivens said:
what more control of the camera has been added other than the audio levels whilst recording?
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Timecoding, longer files, drop frames... although those features aren't going to be useful to any amateur use of the video features.
 
Does anyone know if spot metering is linked to the active focus point?
 
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POAH said:
think you may be waiting along time lol
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1-2 years I guess - not that I have any choice :bang:

My current gear still works after the announcement. I know it's unbelievable :shrug:
 
Well now, who's going to be the first on here to pre-order ? it certainly will not be me:D
 
cyclamens said:
I certainly won't be rushing to get one as don't have any issues with my
5DMkII and certainly wouldn't pay the price premium just for the new autofocus.

I have more features than I use already (ie video).

A professional may use the 'better' low-light ISO performance..........but then would they buy a camera like this if that was the environment they were shooting in?

Better autofocus - with what has been labelled, in the original two guises as a 'studio/landscape' camera?

No thanks - I'll stick with the 'old' technology and put the extra money into another lens.
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I am with you. There is NO WAY I will replace my 5D mkII with this one as it offers me nothing more. I am a landscape photographer and I use manual focus. ;)
 
arad85 said:
it's not like Canon are claiming Full HD is new, just like they aren't claiming full frame is new on the 5DIII,.
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when you see quotes like this "22.3 MP full-frame sensor, 6 fps, 102,400 max ISO, 1080/30p HD"

everything in there is new apart from the 1080/30p HD so it does feel like it's being touted as a new feature
 
Dimitri said:
I am with you. There is NO WAY I will replace my 5D mkII with this one as it offers me nothing more. I am a landscape photographer and I use manual focus. ;)
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nothing more?

better viewfinder - larger resolution, improved ISO

surely those are features that will imporve landscape photography - arguably not enough to justify the extra cast but to claim it offers nothing more is incorrect.
 
Galaxy66 said:
You;)
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It would have already been done if it wasn't for the £2999.I must admit that's a bit of a shocker.I thought around the £2600/£2700 mark.
Their might be a very nice 5DMK2 up for sale before the end of the day though LOL.

What about those new flashes.£650+.Someone at Canon has got to be having a laugh.

Gary
 
joescrivens said:
when you see quotes like this "22.3 MP full-frame sensor, 6 fps, 102,400 max ISO, 1080/30p HD"

everything in there is new apart from the 1080/30p HD so it does feel like it's being touted as a new feature
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Apart from the "full frame sensor". It's just a headline that it will do 1080p HD video. No more, no less.
 
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