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Speed for the sake of it is not that interesting at all IMHO. Even on a derestricted part of the autobahn in a car capable of 150+ mph, driving much above 90-100 mph for any length of time is very tiring. The concentration needed is huge, not least of which keeping an eye in the rear view for cars pushing 200 mph and at the same time watching out for the 75 mph (120 km/h) limit signs..
No I'm much more interested in being able to make progress and there are many motorists who have no idea how to do this safely.
My biggest speed related bug bear is folk that do 40 mph in a 30 limit and 40 mph in a 60 limit. Does my head in.
No I'm much more interested in being able to make progress and there are many motorists who have no idea how to do this safely.
My biggest speed related bug bear is folk that do 40 mph in a 30 limit and 40 mph in a 60 limit. Does my head in.
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Its great isn't it?I'm just glad and grateful that the internet is full of people who can keep an eye on me and tell me what I'm doing wrong in a car! Even here on TP!!
Us guys of a certain age, how the hell did we ever survive and manage to drive cars with cross ply and even remould tyres?
How did we survive with no air bags, power steering, abs brakes and LSD's?
Yep its a mystery to me as well.
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Not just guys....me too.
My dad used to say we should all learn in cars with crash boxes lol
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Tiddles has seen tarmac? Hold the front page!!!
I remember a conversation on another photography forum a few years ago where someone was saying that their TVR was the only exciting sports car on the road. Personally, I can't help feeling that on the road isn't the place to drive excitedly.
Just trying to remember when I last got a speeding ticket. Going by the bike I was on at the time, it must have been '91 since that's when the bike's owner was working overseas. Wish I could have afforded the bike when he sold it...
I remember a conversation on another photography forum a few years ago where someone was saying that their TVR was the only exciting sports car on the road. Personally, I can't help feeling that on the road isn't the place to drive excitedly.
Just trying to remember when I last got a speeding ticket. Going by the bike I was on at the time, it must have been '91 since that's when the bike's owner was working overseas. Wish I could have afforded the bike when he sold it...
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Ah yes crash box,
double-de-clutch,
Actually the clutch wasn't necessary,
apart from pulling away smoothly and stopping without stalling,
unless of course you selected "middle gear" the good old days
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It's not absolutely necessary with synchro-mesh either.
Back in the 1980's, I got my Hillman Avenger home with a broken clutch cable. I was very lucky with the traffic lights that day though.
I recently showed my son how to change gear without a clutch by matching the engine speed to the gearbox speed.
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True enough Steve true enough
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Changing gear without the clutch does b****r synchro cones quite quickly though!
For daugirdas' benefit, Bentley won the Le Mans 24 hour race five times in the 1920s. For what it's worth, the first, 1924 car would do 0-60 in about 22 seconds on its way to an 85mph top speed but famously all Cricklewood Bentleys had crash gearboxes that didn't just make a graunch if you got the gearchange wrong - the lever came back and broke your hand! :banghead:
... and they're fabulous fun to drive, even today!
For daugirdas' benefit, Bentley won the Le Mans 24 hour race five times in the 1920s. For what it's worth, the first, 1924 car would do 0-60 in about 22 seconds on its way to an 85mph top speed but famously all Cricklewood Bentleys had crash gearboxes that didn't just make a graunch if you got the gearchange wrong - the lever came back and broke your hand! :banghead:
... and they're fabulous fun to drive, even today!
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Clutch? Was rather pleased with myself on hols when I managed to NOT stall the tiny Aygo despite driving large(ish) autos here. Equally pleased to have not pressed the pedal with my left foot when an emergency stop was called for when a psycholist decided that red lights don't apply to his ilk.
Had a few crash boxes in the past (and a couple of fnurkled synchro ones as well!) Apparently, the real challenge is 1st to 2nd in a cone clutch WO Bentley but I expect very few of us have had/will get the opportunity to try that shift.
Had a few crash boxes in the past (and a couple of fnurkled synchro ones as well!) Apparently, the real challenge is 1st to 2nd in a cone clutch WO Bentley but I expect very few of us have had/will get the opportunity to try that shift.
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Changing gear without the clutch does b****r synchro cones quite quickly though!
For daugirdas' benefit, Bentley won the Le Mans 24 hour race five times in the 1920s. For what it's worth, the first, 1924 car would do 0-60 in about 22 seconds on its way to an 85mph top speed but famously all Cricklewood Bentleys had crash gearboxes that didn't just make a graunch if you got the gearchange wrong - the lever came back and broke your hand! :banghead:
... and they're fabulous fun to drive, even today!
DAD??????!!!???????
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I did manage to pull away from standstill on the flat in that Hillman Avenger, without using the clutch. By pushing the gearstick towards first position, there was obvious enough friction to put a bit of power through and the car slowly started moving until it was going with enough speed for the gear to engage.
Luckily, I only had to do it once and I wouldn't recommend doing it at all!
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Luckily, I only had to do it once and I wouldn't recommend doing it at all!
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S'not a problem! I've done it often. The first time I drove a car with a broken clutch cable, it was a Fiat, in Bristol ... in the evening rush hour! I shouted through the open window "Get out the way! I can't stop!" ... and people did!
By the way, the usual trick is to switch off at standstill and then turn the ignition on with the car in 2nd gear and jerk into movement that way!
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I have done that before, but in this case, the battery wasn't up to the task either!
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Hmmm ... broken clutch cable and a flat battery ... Hillman Avenger you say ... tell me it was brand new and you were driving it home from the dealership!?
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So you removed yourself, from the area in short jerky movements, Eh?
Don't blame you either BTW
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I don't buy cheap tyres or Chinese brake pads, I buy the good stuff, but then if you knew enough about cars, you'd realise that's relatively easy to do.
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ESP has nothing to do with braking ability. ESP (Electronic Stability Program) is a function of the ABS system on cars where by if a car becomes unstable on bends or one wheel should start to spin on a slippery surface whilst the other has traction, the program will gently apply the brakes to the errant wheel and possibly back off engine power to bring the car back under control. ABS systems only really improves braking efficiency by stopping a car from skidding, not in general braking conditions, a brake servo improves efficiency as does disc brakes as opposed to drum brakes. But then if you knew what you were talking about, you would already know that.
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Oh good Lord. Did you really have to reply in the most mundane way ever?
Btw. Thanks to ESP I can accelerate through the bends instead of braking without any fear. I guess that is too advanced for this thread / forum.
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Yes, because you need educating about cars and maybe one day you will be able to talk sense instead of b*((*x
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Just because you read and interpret everything in your own filtered way, then find it necessary to show off your "superiority". As we start about education I would certainly have a few more things to tell.
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It's not about superiority, it's about all the motoring related advice you like to press on people, which most of the is complete twaddle. In the past you've asked for advice, yet when it's given, because it's not what you wanted to hear, we are then wrong and you suddenly know everything. Not really fair on someone else when they take your wrongful advice is it, or is that your intention and you can have a little giggle to yourself?
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Isn't the human brain wonderful.
Making the simplest, most mundane activity as complicated as possible.
Turning it into a competitive arena where the esoteric becomes more important than the function.
Where those who understand the function are belittled by those who champion the cutting edge world of methods to part the unthinking from their money.
The lengths those champions will go to in order to justify their expenditure on the unimportant, the everyday, the mundane, is astonishing.
It's a f*****g car. Transport. A-B.
If you have a toy - I'm all for that. A growling V8 monster that you love the sound of - cool. An Ariel Atom for the ultimate track day - cool.
Everything else is a box to get from A-B.
But people love to say, "my s*** metal box is better than your s*** metal box."
Hilarious.
Making the simplest, most mundane activity as complicated as possible.
Turning it into a competitive arena where the esoteric becomes more important than the function.
Where those who understand the function are belittled by those who champion the cutting edge world of methods to part the unthinking from their money.
The lengths those champions will go to in order to justify their expenditure on the unimportant, the everyday, the mundane, is astonishing.
It's a f*****g car. Transport. A-B.
If you have a toy - I'm all for that. A growling V8 monster that you love the sound of - cool. An Ariel Atom for the ultimate track day - cool.
Everything else is a box to get from A-B.
But people love to say, "my s*** metal box is better than your s*** metal box."
Hilarious.
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Since when is "RANT" section of photography forum considered "motoring advice"? Pistonheads or Honest John would be far more appropriate for something serious?
It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with my posts. The fact is all the fun on the road is being irreversibly destroyed by pensioners and greedy misguided politicians. Actually 40 everywhere is sort of fun, considering how dangerous it is in places... I've just tried it tonight - never been that scared since the clio days. Tomorrow's morning commute shall be more hogging - it is my new hobby now. If I get rearended by a racer boy I get to buy my SUV the next day and claim for whiplash.
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Then of course, there's the even funnier notion that roads are there for fun.
It wouldn't be funny if this was 1952. Then it was indeed sold as a fun thing to do - driving.
Still, what would car adverts be like without the wide open road. Bit like Dacia adverts. And obviously no car expert would want one of those.
It wouldn't be funny if this was 1952. Then it was indeed sold as a fun thing to do - driving.
Still, what would car adverts be like without the wide open road. Bit like Dacia adverts. And obviously no car expert would want one of those.
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Then of course, there's the even funnier notion that roads are there for fun.
It wouldn't be funny if this was 1952. Then it was indeed sold as a fun thing to do - driving.
Still, what would car adverts be like without the wide open road. Bit like Dacia adverts. And obviously no car expert would want one of those.
I bet you Dacia Duster 1.5DCi is by far not the worst / most boring new car one could buy. It is turbo diesel and a sort of SUV, just without the luxury and refinement of VW / Audi.
I would take up flying if I could afford it. That would be way more fun than a blast through Loch Lomond shores at night (w/o pensioners). RAF Tornadoes are tempting with the bonus of frying some ISIL fighters, but I am a bit too old for it
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Shall we say one nearly caused me a very nasty accident very recently (I have no intention to clarify any further). I lost 5 perfect sunsets to 20 plenty scone hunters in the last 2 weeks. And my only (non-fault) accident was also caused by pensioner. And they get away doing 40 in 30 or school zones. Nothing personal... just dead annoying.
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I drive a Nissan Micra 95% of the time... I must have a MASSIVE penis
That wasn't the irony I was referring to. Merely that most clearly ARE less than average, not that it's impossible.
You really know nothing about cars or driving do you? What's so hard about accelerating around a bend? You seriously think you need ESP or any other driver aid to do this? You can do this in any car... literally any car. The question is though.. unless you can see around that bend, why would you want to? Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. From all the things you've been saying in this thread, my opinion of you is that you should just stop driving.. do us all a favour.
VW or Audi isn't the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of refinement.
Oh sh*t.. please don't. Your understanding of driving is clearly taxing your intellect... just stay on terra firma please.
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Oh good Lord!!!
Maybe ESP is the only reason YOU can acceleate through bends, but people like Camille Jenatzy and Ferenc Szisz and Barney Oldfield were doing it at the turn of the 20th century; at the birth of motoring! It's pretty fundamental to how a car is driven! Any car! Anywhere! Any time! The slowest point is the point of turn in to the corner and then a constant and then increasing throttle accelerates the car through the corner in a balanced and controlled way. That has always been safe driving.
Oh and don't brake in corners unless you understand the forces acting on the tyres. There's a lovely graph called "The Traction Circle" that explains why it puts you at risk of crashing! I'm sure it's onine somewhere.
I'm surprised you weren't taught that when you were learning to drive. I'm far more surprised you haven't worked it out for yourself when you've been driving around! You've been driving for a couple of years to my knowledge.
It's actually not very advanced at all!
Possibly since you started asking questions? Take it from me, and I do know a bit about cars and driving, the answers you have been receiving have been every bit as appropriate as anything you'll receive from PistonHeads or Honest John.
But please don't stop asking or ranting because you have an "interestingly different" take on motoring and all car-related stuff which, on one level, gives the rest of us some perverse amusement behind all the jaw-dropping frustration when we read your posts!
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You WHAT ?
I was taught to do that when I was learning to drive - some 50 years ago - that's an old technique . I don't need ESP for that.
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*fingers in ears*
All my driver aids will make me a better driver and save me from many accidents, All my driver aids will make me a better driver and save me from many accidents, All my driver aids will make me a better driver and save me from many accidents, All my driver aids will make me a better driver and save me from many accidents..
All my driver aids will make me a better driver and save me from many accidents, All my driver aids will make me a better driver and save me from many accidents, All my driver aids will make me a better driver and save me from many accidents, All my driver aids will make me a better driver and save me from many accidents..
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I think your internet rage read my post wrong. Last part of that post was a reply to the automation question.
We can already phone up companies to tell them how their driver is behaving badly, I am merely suggesting to add that option to justice system. Not nanny state, the public are the eyes, and the dashcam are the evidence. Police approved dashcams are installed at driver's discretion.
The reason I am suggesting this is due to the amount of speeding loonies I see driving on north circular. You can clearly see them bully normal traffic flow to make way, then break hard at speed camera locations. I'm more than happy to be told there is a better way to combat this?
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I know.....why not do this.....
On the days you want to go out and about with your camera, for your enjoyment (and everyone elses sanity and safety), why not issue a press release.
That way we can be sure the roads are clear of pensioners...and small cars...and mums...and speed cameras are turned off...hell, we'll take up the white lines....the cat's eyes...and fill in those annoying pot holes......
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Nothing to do with you not allowing enough time to get to your sunset locations then?
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I drive a Nissan Micra 95% of the time... I must have a MASSIVE penis
That wasn't the irony I was referring to. Merely that most clearly ARE less than average, not that it's impossible.
You really know nothing about cars or driving do you? What's so hard about accelerating around a bend? You seriously think you need ESP or any other driver aid to do this? You can do this in any car... literally any car. The question is though.. unless you can see around that bend, why would you want to? Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. From all the things you've been saying in this thread, my opinion of you is that you should just stop driving.. do us all a favour.
VW or Audi isn't the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of refinement.
Oh sh*t.. please don't. Your understanding of driving is clearly taxing your intellect... just stay on terra firma please.
Yours just increased 10 fold since typing this... I will take up flying some nice jet fighter one day, ideally near where you live.
Do you really think I don't know that? However nobody told me that in driving lessons; I guess they don't anymore. Nobody seems to know that as it seems everybody brakes inside the corners and then nearly come off the bends. Eg. Brand new C-class in front off me nearly left the road at 36mph in a bend and I overtook it the next bend at 60 safely in much lesser car. How ironic.
Feel free to knock ESP as much as you like. The roads are obviously all perfectly dry, perfectly surfaced and you are a robot that never makes even the tiniest mistake. Of course it isn't needed then.
And guess what - my last post in OOF. Honest. It is quite obviously a complete waste of time I should spend in a more productive ways like hogging the roads and writing this direct to council / government.
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Say I have X hours after work. Google maps say X - 1 h. But pensioners make it X + 1h. Clever, innit?