MWAY speed limit may go up

Trawling for speed related articles clearly doesn't include checking the date :-)
 
Cartus said:
Why not just limit all cars to a top speed of 75mph and you will solve the problem of motorway speeding overnight.
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They would still be capable of exceeding the limit by 5MPH though!


Steve.
 
And look at what happened when they limited lorries to 56MPH
How many threads have there been with lanes being blocked and taking +/-5 miles to overtake?
;)
 
ST4 said:
Yes, but then if we do that, we need to restrict so many other things like dangerous dog ownership, alochol consumption, football, actually, sounds like a good idea.
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Aaaand hes off!
 
Won't ever happen, although glad to see the stupid HGV single carriageway 40mph law is being changed to 50mph and they are also considering raising the dual carriageway speed to 60mph (well 56mph technically)
 
ST4 said:
alochol consumption, football, actually, sounds like a good idea.
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No argument from me here,
Both are responsible for violence, and un social behaviour.
But then not all football fans or heavy drinkers are violent or have unsocial traits.

ST4 said:
Yes, but then if we do that, we need to restrict so many other things like dangerous dog ownership,
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Ah but the dangerous dog act of 1991 covers that
(a)any dog of the type known as the pit bull terrier;
(b)any dog of the type known as the Japanese tosa; and
(c)any dog of any type designated for the purposes of this section by an order of the Secretary of State,
being a type appearing to him to be bred for fighting or to have the characteristics of a type bred for that purpose.

You know, the old adage largely holds true, there are no bad dogs, just bad owners.

Sit down grab a coffee and I'll tell you a little story.
Years ago we as a family of 4 inc 2 young children,
We "rescued" an Alsation, GSD if you prefer, from a rescue centre.
The short version was, she had been starved and beaten.

At the time if you can imagine a dog built like a racing greyhound,
with a head the size of a small pony, that was pretty much what she looked like.

Over the next several months, we slowly put "meat" on her and managed to rebuild
her muscle tone.
Eventually he full size became apparent!
She was one hell of a Alsation, I've never seen once since that was comparable in height or physique
to the point I suspected, due to her physique and size that she may have been part wolf / wolf dog.

Her mind set could have been one that hated humans, due to her "past life"
and her build such, that she could have done a lot of damage to an adult,
never mind a child.

She was the kindest, gentlest, docile & most loyal dog that you could ever wish to meet.
And lived to about 15 years old. We never knew here exact age
But we had her for 12 years, and she was apparently 3+ when we got her.

As an aside,
1) over the years, the houses either side of me were burgled.

2) my young son was riding his bike ahead of me, a hundred yards or so,
A stranger approached him, with a Labrador type dog.
"Annie" was at my side as always, off the lead (as always when on tracks / well away from roads etc)
She didn't need to be "chained" to be controlled.

The guy got within a few yards of my son,
Annie covered that 100 yards in a few seconds, put herself between my son and the guy,
"floored" his dog and stood over it,
until I got there seconds later.

As I got there the guy hurried away, calling his (now subordinate to Annie) dog.
I called Annie to my side and both guy and dog disappeared off down a side track.

Loyalty works both ways :)

 
We should teach people to drive better before thinking about increasing the speed limit.
 
Cobra said:

No argument from me here,
Both are responsible for violence, and un social behaviour.
But then not all football fans or heavy drinkers are violent or have unsocial traits.


Ah but the dangerous dog act of 1991 covers that
(a)any dog of the type known as the pit bull terrier;
(b)any dog of the type known as the Japanese tosa; and
(c)any dog of any type designated for the purposes of this section by an order of the Secretary of State,
being a type appearing to him to be bred for fighting or to have the characteristics of a type bred for that purpose.

You know, the old adage largely holds true, there are no bad dogs, just bad owners.

Sit down grab a coffee and I'll tell you a little story.
Years ago we as a family of 4 inc 2 young children,
We "rescued" an Alsation, GSD if you prefer, from a rescue centre.
The short version was, she had been starved and beaten.

At the time if you can imagine a dog built like a racing greyhound,
with a head the size of a small pony, that was pretty much what she looked like.

Over the next several months, we slowly put "meat" on her and managed to rebuild
her muscle tone.
Eventually he full size became apparent!
She was one hell of a Alsation, I've never seen once since that was comparable in height or physique
to the point I suspected, due to her physique and size that she may have been part wolf / wolf dog.

Her mind set could have been one that hated humans, due to her "past life"
and her build such, that she could have done a lot of damage to an adult,
never mind a child.

She was the kindest, gentlest, docile & most loyal dog that you could ever wish to meet.
And lived to about 15 years old. We never knew here exact age
But we had her for 12 years, and she was apparently 3+ when we got her.

As an aside,
1) over the years, the houses either side of me were burgled.

2) my young son was riding his bike ahead of me, a hundred yards or so,
A stranger approached him, with a Labrador type dog.
"Annie" was at my side as always, off the lead (as always when on tracks / well away from roads etc)
She didn't need to be "chained" to be controlled.

The guy got within a few yards of my son,
Annie covered that 100 yards in a few seconds, put herself between my son and the guy,
"floored" his dog and stood over it,
until I got there seconds later.

As I got there the guy hurried away, calling his (now subordinate to Annie) dog.
I called Annie to my side and both guy and dog disappeared off down a side track.

Loyalty works both ways :)

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By the same Tolken not all fast cars are driven dangerously so why should they be limited. My post was a riposte to that
 
Swissy said:
We should teach people to drive better before thinking about increasing the speed limit.
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Amen to that. Just come back from Hwntw land, amazed I survived to be honest. Scary driving.
 
ST4 said:
By the same Tolken not all fast cars are driven dangerously so why should they be limited. My post was a riposte to that
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Are these cars from Middle Earth?
 
Cartus said:
Why not just limit all cars to a top speed of 75mph and you will solve the problem of motorway speeding overnight.
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Why do you assume that all cars are only used on public roads in the UK? Why do you assume all vehicles used on UK roads are registered in the UK? How do you propose to actually achieve this on, say, my Hillman Imp?

Plenty of places at home and abroad where 70mph can be exceeded in a road legal vehicle without breaking any laws. It would certainly cause a problem for competitors on (what used to be called) the RAC Rally, for example.
 
The cars are fine.
It's the nobheads driving them :-)
 
I am far more concerned with scone hunters / grave dodgers and 40-everywhere brigade. Even 50 is a dream on A82 most of the time.

Maybe it is time to encourage car makers to mainly sell automatic models of average mainstream cars, just like in the US. Pensioners wouldn't be stuck permanently in 2nd gear (cos it is too complicated to shift!) and hopefully they would become more considerate road users. Driverless cars would be even better as long as they drive at the limit.

Many people don't know how to properly drive on M'ways, let alone how to safely handle bends on B roads.

I am not sure I'd want to see speed limit above 80. I've been overtaken by a yob in old yellow audi doing ST4-like speeds and then had to put up with horrible sulphury smell of petrol for a couple miles.

onomatopoeia said:
Why do you assume that all cars are only used on public roads in the UK? Why do you assume all vehicles used on UK roads are registered in the UK? How do you propose to actually achieve this on, say, my Hillman Imp?

Plenty of places at home and abroad where 70mph can be exceeded in a road legal vehicle without breaking any laws. It would certainly cause a problem for competitors on (what used to be called) the RAC Rally, for example.
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I believe there are GPS based systems in Japan. Cars are derestricted on race tracks, etc.
 
onomatopoeia said:
Why do you assume that all cars are only used on public roads in the UK? Why do you assume all vehicles used on UK roads are registered in the UK? How do you propose to actually achieve this on, say, my Hillman Imp?

Plenty of places at home and abroad where 70mph can be exceeded in a road legal vehicle without breaking any laws. It would certainly cause a problem for competitors on (what used to be called) the RAC Rally, for example.
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Not to mention the dangers when people overtake and have a head on as the limiter kicks in as they are level with the car.
 
Swissy said:
We should teach people to drive better before thinking about increasing the speed limit.
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This^^^^


Setting it to 80 will just mean idiots that now do 80-90 will be doing 90-100 instead. Motorways are just too congested these days, and I don't see the point. Plus.. it's not the speed itself that's the problem, it's the miss-use of speed.

Better driver education is required, and tougher driving tests that include motorway driving. What they should also do is have a tiered licensing system. How I envisage that working is you have to have had a clean license for 5 years before you can drive anything of more than a certain engine size/power to weight ratio. If you've kept your nose clean for 5 years, you move up to the next tier etc. Get caught being a knob and doing anything speed related that would earn you more than a SP30, then you're back to your 1.0 litre shopping trolley for another 5 years.

Seems fair to me. Certain vehicle classes are tiered, such as HGV, and bikes, yet cars are all lumped into one category. If you pass your test, you can jump into either a 1 litre front wheel drive box, or a 600bhp rear wheel drive monster depending on how much money you have. In order to move to the next class, you should have to earn that right, otherwise you'll either get the Justin Biebers of this world being total cocks, or at the lower end of the scale, teenagers in knackered, but otherwise still powerful cars being cocks. They ruin it for sensible people, who use powerful cars responsibly.
 
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Making motorway driving a part of the practical test has been proposed...and dismissed many times as geographically impractical.
 
viv1969 said:
The cars are fine.
It's the nobheads driving them :)
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or Q "what is the most dangerous component of a car?"
A "The nut behind the wheel"

I suggest ther courts be given greater powers to ban dangerous drivers for life like the idiot who nearly hit me head on yesterday when the rest of us gave way to a fire engine with sirens on. My side of the road now clear so start to move when this moron overtakes the car on the opposite side of the road which had stopped to let the fire engine through

One of my favourite Darwin Awards is the two drivers approaching a railroad crossing both decided not to stop despite the barriers being down and the lights flashing. Head on collision As a consequence one is now at that great parking lot in the sky, the other received an houourable mention.. better luck next time
 
donut said:
yes ,,,plus or minus 170mph ( actualy ignore the minus bit )
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They say twenties plenty. I say a ton is fun.

There's many bits of mway that aren't busy or congested. Think the north section of M6 from Lancaster to Carlisle. That's often dead and 80 is no more dangerous than 70. Plus everyone does it, even dibble turns a blind eye to 80mph

It's time it was introduced, the French have it and it's not a blood bath over there
 
viv1969 said:
Making motorway driving a part of the practical test has been proposed...and dismissed many times as geographically impractical.
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Ridiculous reason to not do so considering the benefits of doing it.
 
ST4 said:
They say twenties plenty. I say a ton is fun.
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You really, really haven't learned your lesson have you :)
 
Pookeyhead said:
Ridiculous reason to not do so considering the benefits of doing it.
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Not everyone lives near an accessible motorway for it to be part of a 45 minute test.
The more likely option (and currently touted) is that the practical test continues as is, but you then have a set amount of time to complete a certain amount of motorway instruction by ADI. If not completed your licence reverts to provisional and you start from scratch.
Skid pan training is also being discussed.
 
viv1969 said:
Not everyone lives near an accessible motorway for it to be part of a 45 minute test.
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As it stands... to all pretence and purpose, you take a driving test once in your life (which is also rediculous if you ask me). If you can;t be arsed travelling in order to undertake that test, then you don't deserve to have a license. I had to travel 120 miles in order to take a morse code test to get my ham radio license... I didn't object. People should just stop being whiny little bitches (meant in a contemporary, hip-hop stylee meaning :), not a sexist one), and just travel further for their test if they want a license.
 
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