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3 year old missing in Edinburgh.. . Is it just me or does the facts not add up and something more sinister has happened and the family may or may not know more than the police are letting on.......
 
It does seem a bit odd to me, my 1st though was no mention of the father but then that's not so unusual nowadays :thinking:
 
Have to say that things seem a bit odd to me. i hope the child is safe and found soon.
 
I truly great for the child.....I dont think a 3 year old would dress and leave......most 3 year olds that I know would awake and either play with toys or prot the tv on.....not get dressed and go for a stroll out of a secure building
 
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Something tells me they'll never find him. I hope im wrong, really do. Unlike a certain other missing toddler this wont be in the news for years to come if he doesnt get found I suspect.
 
archangel said:
I think we all pray that the child is found but it is still very suspicious....
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and I guess it's up to you to start drawing conclusions? Perhaps you should don the deerstalker, dig out the opium pipe and solve the case!
 
Eddzz!! said:
and I guess it's up to you to start drawing conclusions? Perhaps you should don the deerstalker, dig out the opium pipe and solve the case!
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It's elementary my dear Eddzz.....

In all seriousness it is awful that the child has disappeared but in reality things just don't add up...... in my opinion but I would say there are a lit more people with similar thoughts
 
I know the family/community concerned and whilst you are free to draw your own conclusions on this they are certainly not helpful
 
neil_g said:
according to who? its not beyond the realms of possibility that the child managed to open a door. maybe the key was in the lock (now you've got me speculating..).
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The building had a heavy security door which you had to push whilst holding a release button....also the police have said that there has been no forced entry.....all circumstance but again facts that need to be considered
 
archangel said:
The building had a heavy security door which you had to push whilst holding a release button....also the police have said that there has been no forced entry.....all circumstance but again facts that need to be considered
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so lets let the police deal with investigating then. if its suspicious like youre speculating then theyll do something about it.
 
neil_g said:
so lets let the police deal with investigating then. if its suspicious like youre speculating then theyll do something about it.
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I am not suggesting that I take over the investigation merely saying it all seems a little odd.....
 
There will be thousands of people thinking its odd, there's nothing unusual or reprehensible in that, it's human nature when unusual things happen - everyone will be hoping on hope that he is found safe and well.
 
Also there is no mention of the estranged father......wouldn't be the first case of talking a child out of the county
 
neil_g said:
so lets let the police deal with investigating then. if its suspicious like youre speculating then theyll do something about it.
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I really doubt this thread is going to hinder the police investigation .. .. its human nature to speculate.. no harm done ...
 
Keith W said:
I know the family/community concerned and whilst you are free to draw your own conclusions on this they are certainly not helpful
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Sorry to hear that Keith

irrespective of who is involved or where he his right now, the most important thing is the welfare of the child - fingers crossed he's safe and well.
 
Keith W said:
I know the family/community concerned and whilst you are free to draw your own conclusions on this they are certainly not helpful
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I certainly haven't drawn any conclusion or pointed any fingers..... I have merely stated that it is quite an odd case...... I, like millions of others are praying for the safe return of the child...... I am not in any way suggesting that the family or community have been involved in the disappearance of the said child...
How this is being "not helpful" is irrelevant as I am merely discussing a news topic as most people do a daily basis
 
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I am hoping and praying this little boy is OK and is found safe and well.

If I lived near I would be out looking for the little fella that's for certain! with all the other concerned friends and family and neighbors..

Here is hoping!
 
neil_g said:
thats not what i said
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What is your problem wiht people discussing it in here then ? why are you so keen to stop it... I like to read what others think on subjects.. gives me a wider outlook on life... all your posts seem intent on stopping people speculating.... was juts wondering why :)

We used to call it..."The Thought Police"
 
KIPAX said:
What is your problem wiht people discussing it in here then ? why are you so keen to stop it... I like to read what others think on subjects.. gives me a wider outlook on life... all your posts seem intent on stopping people speculating.... was juts wondering why :)

We used to call it..."The Thought Police"
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what possible good is it to start pointing the finger?
 
I was just asking why you didnt want anyone discussing it... wasnt important.. just wondered.. no worries:)
 
Unfortunately, I think all of us on here have seen/read about enough of these kinds of cases and there outcomes, that we will automatically think 'there's something not quite right about this'.

Personally, I took the openning post as an invitaton for all of us to enter into a discussion about it, and no more than that. Like everyone else, I truly hope that this young lad is found safe and well, but it when do these kind of things really ever turn out well?
 
i fail to see how a family with 4 other children and a mother in the house could overlook a 3 year old child getting up in the middle of the night, getting dressed, putting their shoes and coat on and leaving the house.

something dodgy going on,

Sad :-(
 
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archangel said:
The building had a heavy security door which you had to push whilst holding a release button....also the police have said that there has been no forced entry.....all circumstance but again facts that need to be considered
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And there is the first inaccuracy that helps to start speculation and drawing conclusions. You don't need to hold a button and push the door, you push the button and then the door. And yes a 3 year old could do it, I've seen lots of small children open those doors
I can be pretty certain about this as I stay in that street.
I wouldn't believe everything you read or see in the press I can assure you there are a number of inaccuracies in Sky news website reports and presumably others.
 
Not followed this too closely to be honest but from what I've read it seems a little strange.

Before the thought police start on me, I have an opinion on the matter and I'm not afraid to express it :)

3 year olds that I've come into contact with, whilst being very bright and intelligent for their years probably wouldn't have the ability to dress themselves at 3am and be able to operate a door more secure than simply turning a key and pulling on a handle.

In fact if a 3 year old decided to go walkabout during "bedtime" they'd more than likely stay in their PJs, perhaps put on a dressing gown but most of my nieces and nephews have been more than happy to stay in their PJs for as long as possible to the point of fighting against getting dressed at all costs :lol:

This makes me strongly think there has been adult intervention but obviously I could be completely wrong.

Whatever has actually happened I just hope for all concerned that this little'un turns up safe and sound soon.
 
I just pray he is found safe, well and quickly.
 
scorpius said:
And there is the first inaccuracy that helps to start speculation and drawing conclusions. You don't need to hold a button and push the door, you push the button and then the door. And yes a 3 year old could do it, I've seen lots of small children open those doors
I can be pretty certain about this as I stay in that street.
I wouldn't believe everything you read or see in the press I can assure you there are a number of inaccuracies in Sky news website reports and presumably others.
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Having watched the demonstration on television last night.....you had to hold both the release button and push door at the same time for it to release (and unless the child is extremely strong and has reasonably long arms I cannot see that happening then again the door could have been left open our opened for the child).....also it is odd that the building has cctv and the police I am sure have examined it.....so why hold back any details of the child leaving the building.....the police have also confirmed that there was no forced entry not was any doors left unlocked or found unlocked....so if the child unlocked the door how come that it was relocked.....now they have eye witness sightings of a child walking the streets the next morning....how come it has taken so long for these eye witnesses to come forward and why did a responsible adult not intervene and check that the child was ok......I have grown up children and at three years of age they would have never been able to leave the house during the night as the house was securely locked.......it still seems very odd....... and this is not me pointing fingers or waving allegations.....it is my common sense approach...something doesn't add up.....as far as I can see only adult intervention(not necessarily by the parents or other family members) could allow a child to leave the building or the lack of adult intervention from the eye witnesses who claim to have seen a child at 8.30 in the morning walking the street alone.....there are many variables in play and we won't know for certain until it is all over.....
 
Goodness knows why they demo'ed like that, that's not how it works.
As for CCTV, it's not CCTV it's a video entry system only it doesn't record anything. Yet more incorrect information from Sky amongst others.
 
scorpius said:
Goodness knows why they demo'ed like that, that's not how it works.
As for CCTV, it's not CCTV it's a video entry system only it doesn't record anything. Yet more incorrect information from Sky amongst others.
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According to the bbc police are examining cctv footage from the building.....and even if the building has no cctv, I am sure lots of other buildings in the surrounding area do....I live in the a******e of nowhere and before I reach the end of the main road I am on cctv at least twice from other properties in the area.....we live in a big brother society and I am still not convinced that there is no visual evidence.....I am sure the police do hold back certain information for operational purposes but it is still odd...... maybe I am just cynical but I still can't comprehend how a 3 year old can get up, get dressed and decide to leave the house....then to bypass the door locks and exit a heavy security door.....then to travel unnoticed either by human or cctv through the streets...... this is not a witch hunt just my observations from the information being supplied to society.....
 
In true TP fashion a single post regarding concern for a missing toddler turns into a dispute and nit picking whether something is cctv or video entry system, who is suspect or not...well done guys you did what was expected.
 
frank said:
In true TP fashion a single post regarding concern for a missing toddler turns into a dispute and nit picking whether something is cctv or video entry system, who is suspect or not...well done guys you did what was expected.
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I don't see it as nit picking....merely a discussion on a news topic using information as supplied my the media, police and other Tpers opinion......and concern for the child remains undiminished...
 
Byker28i said:
<columbo mode> so you know the premises. Ah, um, ok. Thanks for your time. Just one more thing... :)[/quote
Thanks for your insinuation that I'm lying about where I live. Maybe I should be like all the ghouls hanging around last night and post a selfie of me at the scene when I get home from work.
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