i'm fuming.....

Well done for not letting the human detritus that plagues this country get you down! If there were more bobbies on the beat instead of chasing pensioners about their overfilled bins (Afterall, there's no money in upholding real laws these days. Not the coppers fault, mind, but the policymakers...) there might be less of this kinda nonsense. Blanket tolerance and ignorance of dullard, thuggish behaviour and lifestyle has done incalculable damage to this country, which I fear will never be undone.
 
I say good on ya. If anyone had a pop at me like that I'd throttle him. It's all good and well saying "don't stoop to their level" or "rise above them", but these days the only way they learn is by actions such as this.

Yes, I'm :nuts:
 
Damn this is so tough.

Personally I feel 'good on ya stan - the little ***** deserved a clip round the ear' which is what he got. He'll certainly think twice about doing it again.

Unfortunately the moral PC police and do gooders will have a field day if the little ***** reports the incident. Which he may do as he probably realises he will be seen to be in the right.

I hope he doesn't, and I hope stan doesn't get in trouble.
 
just saw this...WOW a lot of replies

frankly we can harp about about minors and all that, but my tuppence to the OP...
fine, my only consideration is that a kick in the balls isn't gentlemanly :)
however, he got what he deserved. the daft sods were up for annoying someone and bit off more than they can chew. Also throwing snowballs at someone carrying electronic equipment is potentially damaging to personal properly..which I think you can reasonably defend. Secondly he swung first and made contact. so it wasn't a feint etc. he was squaring up to hurt someone. so go ahead. kick him in the balls. the police have more important things to worry about and would have done sod all about it tbh. what can they do to 18 random kids on the word of one person after the fact. During the fact the OP made one snotty kid (not a minor though, he knew exactly what he was doing) you can drive at 17 and get married, so your actions are you own!

for Chaz...you can rise above someone and in a perfect world...this would be great.
but a dozen or so 18 y'os aren't going to learn from that and would just pick on someone else. If they'd done that to a granny she might have fallen, broken her hip, been too scared to venture out in the snow again.
From a reasonable self defense point of view, he was hit once..he hit back once. He didn't employ any weapon (improvised or not) and didn't break anything or do any (that we know of) lasting damage.
so Stan...I hope they didn't ruin your day too much....and I hope you ruined his a fair bit.
if the police do become involved, good luck and be reasonable, considered and factual in your recount of events.
 
Hawkmoon said:
Might not be politically correct but "good for you" Stan.

How many incidents do we hear of where a single punch from a teenger on a mature adult results in severe brain damage or even death.

Yes, this might sound exagerated but in reality it happens. My vote is with you mate. (And PS, dont let it ruin your day, but I quess its ruined the little s***s pride somewhat).:clap::clap::clap:

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Totally agree with these sentiments. Little b*******.
 
Just been catching up with this 'snowballing' thread,unlucky Stan but hope all is ok now,well done for defending yourself and thankfully things didn't turn nasty
You should be able to identify the knuckle dragger by looking out for a John Wayne walking soprano :D
 
fabs said:
Are you really saying that you assume every kid behaves in an irresponsible and dangerous manner with no regard to other people? I assure you they don't and neither did I.
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No I don't assume every kid does, but most kids wouldn't see throwing a snowball as dangerous to other people, nor irresponsible, as I don't/didn't. I wasn't a bad kid, never been arrested, good parenting etc but we still got up to mischief - In my opinion, today's youth is no different in that respect. However, they are prepared, if confronted by adults to answer back and attack, which wouldn't have happened with the majority of my generation.
 
candlestick said:
No I don't assume every kid does, but most kids wouldn't see throwing a snowball as dangerous to other people, nor irresponsible, as I don't/didn't. I wasn't a bad kid, never been arrested, good parenting etc but we still got up to mischief - In my opinion, today's youth is no different in that respect. However, they are prepared, if confronted by adults to answer back and attack, which wouldn't have happened with the majority of my generation.
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Maybe kids wouldn't see throwing a snowball at someone as being a bad thing, but the vast majority wouldn't punch someone if they complained about it and that is the whole point here.
 
i think well done for standing up for yourself, too many people just take crap off of others now and the more they get away with the more they seem to go on and do - don't necessarily agree with a kick in the b***s but then how knows how they would have reacted to being attacked by a yob with his lackies there for back up.

One of those things where you cant judge until your in the situation yourself i think.

hope you and your camera are all OK now though :)
 
fabs said:
Maybe kids wouldn't see throwing a snowball at someone as being a bad thing, but the vast majority would punch someone if they complained about it and that is the whole point here.
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Fair enough - I agree that the violence from the 'youth' is bang out of order, and I would certainly retaliated if attacked, so big up Stan for his retaliation :), but as somebody else said earlier on the thread, I would have tried to avoid the confrontation in the first place, and the easiest way I could see to do that is fire some snowballs back or pack up for the day and go home.
 
fabs said:
Maybe kids wouldn't see throwing a snowball at someone as being a bad thing, but the vast majority would punch someone if they complained about it and that is the whole point here.
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I wouldn't say the vast majority. It's only a minority (I don't know 10-20%) probably although that group would be more likely to occur in certain areas and in groups if you catch my drift.
 
fabs said:
Maybe kids wouldn't see throwing a snowball at someone as being a bad thing, but the vast majority would punch someone if they complained about it and that is the whole point here.
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sorry have to disagree the minority might punch someone not the majority
 
candlestick said:
No I don't assume every kid does, but most kids wouldn't see throwing a snowball as dangerous to other people, nor irresponsible, as I don't/didn't. I wasn't a bad kid, never been arrested, good parenting etc but we still got up to mischief - In my opinion, today's youth is no different in that respect. However, they are prepared, if confronted by adults to answer back and attack, which wouldn't have happened with the majority of my generation.
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Kids, maybe. But we're talking about young adults who should know better. When I was 17/18 I'd have probably been in the pub with my mates, not childishly throwing snowballs at strangers carrying expensive photography equipment.

Even when I was younger I wouldn't have dreamed of throwing a snowball at a stranger. I'm not sure if that would have been out of respect, or because I feared I would get a hiding (from said adult, or from my parents), which I would have fully deserved, in my opinion.

Perhaps in the eyes of the law Stan's response would be deemed wrong. I'm sure blokes that run into burning buildings to save trapped kids get a bit of a ticking off from the fire brigade for endangering their own lives. It doesn't make them any less of a hero.

Well done Stan. :thumbs:
 
yoby said:
Please don't take this personally, but

Baited them how? The OP said he ignored them until he himself was "assaulted" (In my book having anything chucked at you by complete strangers counts as assault). When retaliating verbally he was then physically assaulted whereupon a swift defensive kick in the nads diffused the situation.

This has nothing to do with the price of kit - it's everything to do with the bands of wild thuglets roaming the streets and thinking they can get away with anything.


Edit - Must learn to type quicker - where did all those other replies come from.
@Stan - Well done for sticking up for yourself, and don't let it spoil your hobby for a second. Perhaps next time they'll think twice about abusing someone.
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Hear hear.

OP - get yourself some steel toecaps....
 
Good on ya for fronting them out and giving them a good kick.This is the trouble with the sh**s, just cause they are minors they think they can do anything they like and do so cause nobody can touch them.
 
candlestick said:
and the easiest way I could see to do that is fire some snowballs back or pack up for the day and go home.
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if i had started a snowball fight with them,god only knows where it would have ended :lol:

seriously though,why should i feel obliged to pack up and go home because these people[i use this term loosely]cannot behave themselves.i too was their age [a long time ago],but not once did i throw a snowball at anyone other than my mates,whom i was snowball fighting with.

i guess things are different these days,sadly!
 
on a side note, the concept of if someone does something orrible to you (punching you) and you not doing anything orrible back to them (punching them) making it you "rising above them" completely blags me... just means you've been slapped and they've got away with it :/
 
sorry to hear you had trouble today. Personally I would have walked away but then thats because Im a girlie.

Well done you for standing up to them but it could equally of turned out quite nasty :)

Glad your gears ok........ even though its only a sony :D
 
mark richards said:
I think you done well stan, defusing the problem before it got out of hand....by probably taking out the leader,think of it this way, what if he did land a good punch on you...you probably would have had a good kicking, from his mates aswell......
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thanks mark,thats the problem isn't it..it's not a "one on one" situation these days..they all stick the boot in.

alexkidd said:
on a side note, the concept of if someone does something orrible to you (punching you) and you not doing anything orrible back to them (punching them) making it you "rising above them" completely blags me... just means you've been slapped and they've got away with it :/
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exactly alex...but some folk can't see that as being fair...an eye for an eye!

BeHappy said:
sorry to hear you had trouble today. Personally I would have walked away but then thats because Im a girlie.

Well done you for standing up to them but it could equally of turned out quite nasty :)

Glad your gears ok........ even though its only a sony :D
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cheers pat..i think ;)

my sony has feelings ya know :love:
 
Only read up to page 6 :lol:

Good for you Stan. I hope you and your kit (whatever it's worth :D ) are feeling better now.

Tomorrows another day mate, chin up (no pun intended) :thumbs:
 
Its one of them things, you shouldnt do it but you do it anyway. And rightly so, if you hadnt kicked him what would of happened then? Just take a beating?
 
Hacker said:
Good for you Stan, :clap: maybe he will think twice about something similar in the future. For all those bleeding heart liberals going on about him being 'just' 17 years old, have you seen the damage some 17 year olds can do? I'd have done exactly the same - if the little scrote wants to play big boys games then it's big boy rules.
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I have only read to this post and will read no more. Colin has hit the nail on the head....:naughty:..or the scrote in the balls, whichever you prefer.
 
purpleclouds said:
Just flicked through all 7 pages so got the jist of peoples arguments..

I believe he was right to retaliate, but was lucky that the rest of the group didn't decide to pounce on him.. it's been all to often we have seen cases where that's happened :(

Just to add a little 'visualisation' of what might have happened :D
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That is because the little ***** have got away with too much for too long Phil. Hard men at 17 when it suits them, yet minors when they get a good hiding from people who won`t be bullied or intimidated by them.

I`m sick to the ****ing back teeth of feral scum being afforded every luxury and benefit that the bleeding heart liberals bestow upon thier useless souls.

And breathe Frac..........
 
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