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The thing about face book is, IMO, people take it far too seriously, it started out as a bit of a joke and always will be, as far as I am concerned.
I never post anything personal or serious openly.
If I want to contact a distant relative I have email, or as a last resort FB message service.
Again far too many people don't realise that they are not just talking to their mates when they post something openly, anyone can read it.
The best example I can think of, an area manager of my old firm called the MD a f*****g w****r on his status.
That was a smart move, the MD read it and suggested that they parted company.
If people want to post their eating habits or what their brat took from the supermarket shelves and ate, while they were walking round thats OK too,
As as are their political views, just move on if you don't agree with it.
Its like TP, don't like a thread? not interested in the subject? move on you are not duty bound to acknowledge or reply to the thread post,
Although on occasions both are very much like
Life's to short to get all aerated over such things.
I never post anything personal or serious openly.
If I want to contact a distant relative I have email, or as a last resort FB message service.
Again far too many people don't realise that they are not just talking to their mates when they post something openly, anyone can read it.
The best example I can think of, an area manager of my old firm called the MD a f*****g w****r on his status.
That was a smart move, the MD read it and suggested that they parted company.
If people want to post their eating habits or what their brat took from the supermarket shelves and ate, while they were walking round thats OK too,
As as are their political views, just move on if you don't agree with it.
Its like TP, don't like a thread? not interested in the subject? move on you are not duty bound to acknowledge or reply to the thread post,
Although on occasions both are very much like
Life's to short to get all aerated over such things.
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One of my "friends" is constantly posting the britain first type of claptrap. Usually I just de-friend job done, but when its your pensioner dad not so easy really. Have to kind of ignore really.
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its also the case that people don't use the privacy settings - its reasonably straight forward to set you profile to friends only
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So when or if it changes the people using it can move on, there's always Viber or Telegram or who knows what will be available when or if Whatsapp eventually changes.
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I think that, especially with the younger generation its a case of "look at me"
(or my brat), they think the whole world wants to know that they got laid last night / didn't get laid last night,
or that they drunk 12 pints of Sambuca washed down with some obscure larger.
And think that its a status symbol.
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sure - but my basic point was you can avoid all the crap on FB if you want wheras it may not be so easy on a 'monetized' whatsapp
the people who whine about how terrible FB is have mostly either never used it , or muppets who friend everyone they've ever spoken too and then are surpised that they get a lot of crap.
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That's just it, you can't.
I have my Facebook page, I have family members as 'friends' and then add work colleagues or real friends as 'friends'. Uncle Bob decides to go all UKIP/Britain First and starts posting their crap onto Facebook and it then shows in my timeline for all my work colleagues or friends to see.
Facebook is just not worth the hassle or aggravation.
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and to be fair they were Zuckerbergs original target market - concept 1 for faceache was a carbon copy of hot or not - it was s***e and didnt go anywhere, FB was plan B
My only issue with it is that i wish id thought of it first (ditto whatsapp, tindr, instagram etc) - 19bn dollars would be right handy....
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so you delete Uncle Bobs posts from your timeline and if he persists block him for being a penis - simples
its no different to if Uncle bob goes all ukip and starts emailing or whatapping you a load of clap trap
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Never used facebook so don't really know what you are talking about ? I've never had a facebook messenger conversation shared, forwarded liked etc either ,
end of the day its all about who you are friends with - if your friends are given to sharing crap you'll get crap by whatever means, even if you do your social networking in the pub if you are mates with a bunch of morons you'll still be exposed to moronic views.
If you are pickier about who you are friends with (as it sounds as though you are) then you won't.
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It's completely different. Have you used Whatsapp, Pete?
It's essentially texts and voice calls person to person. As an optional add on you can do group text but it's only to groups you specifically set up.
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I've used it a bit - i'm generally out of signal or only grps so most of my messaging is done from a Pc rather than a phone (part of the joy of living in the sticks)
but you still aren't getting the point - its about who you chose to talk to , if you decide to 'whatsapp' with someone with fascist, bigoted, homophobic (or whatever) views then the content you will receive from them will be fascist, homophobic, bigoted etc ... if you don't it won't - the same applies to facebook , if you don't friend people with idiotic views (and block anyone who develops them) then you don't receive crap like that either (assuming you set your privacy settings to friends only)
the same also applies to email, the conversation function on the forum, and even real life
Also Facebook messenger (as opposed to just posting on a timeline) is essentially the same as text based whats app -you decide who see's your messages , and likewise can chose to set up group conversations if you want and you can do it from a phone if you wish (and have signal)
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Its a huge grey area isn't it.
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Yep, Who'd have thought something like that would be worth all that money?
Most normal people wouldn't have even thought about starting something like that
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Why can't you see the difference? If cousin Bob Whatsapp's bigoted, homophobic or racist rubbish only YOU see it. If cousin Bob decides to post it to Facebook then everyone connected to you sees it, friends, colleagues, your employer etc.
It's not as simple as just saying "oh just don't be 'friends' with cousin Bob" but instead of cousin Bob substitute your father, or your mother in law or any other near family member who will take offence to being unfriended and sees nothing wrong with what UKIP or Britain First is posting.
Far easier just to avoid Facebook altogether and not use it.
I am starting to suspect you are just being a little obtuse now...
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You don't have to unfriend people who might get upset, just stop following them, post no longer appear in your news feed.
Same with things like Britain First jusy hide any posts from them, I do so anyone who likes or shares they just don't get to me.
Nothing your friends post appears on your timeline unless they mention you, and you can set it so you have to approve things
before they appear.
I have email and unlimited mobile texts, really can't see the point of yet another massaging app
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not if you delete it - also if you profile is set to friends only then people who aren't your FB friends don't actually see it (assuming you wouldn't be FB buddies with your boss etc)
End of the day i don't really care whether you use FB or not - but its a bit daft to condemn it as unusable when you don't use it , and clearly don't appreciate that these concerns can actually be dealt with (ie that its possible not to have your profile on display to all and sundry), you can even set it so only you can see your posts, although that seems a bit pointless to me.
Also if someone is sharing racist b*****ks then I don't give much of a f*** if they take offence when they get unfriended (the aunt concerned in my post above may well have taken offence, but i don't know because i can no longer see her stuff) - presumably if cousin bob decides to continually whatsapp /email you the BF manifesto he'll also take offence when you block him ?
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Quite - the other issue is i don't have the technical knowledge to put something like that together anyway , so having a great idea would be pointless since I'm not techy enough to make it work ( i can use these things no problem , but coding is a whole nother ballgame)
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You don't have to have used something to have seen it used and to know how it works.
The fact is that to use FB's simple messenger, you first have to log in to FB.
Doing that means you get to see your feed or wall or whatever, and the potential horse poop posted there.
At the moment using WhatsApp does away with that, and so long as you're not an apple fan can also be used from a computer.
I've never met a person yet, who uses FB, who hasn't had a huge whinge about it at some point.
Use it, don't use it, I could care less; just don't claim the messenger service can be used without being "exposed" to FB shullbit at the same time 'cause it just ain't so.
The fact is that to use FB's simple messenger, you first have to log in to FB.
Doing that means you get to see your feed or wall or whatever, and the potential horse poop posted there.
At the moment using WhatsApp does away with that, and so long as you're not an apple fan can also be used from a computer.
I've never met a person yet, who uses FB, who hasn't had a huge whinge about it at some point.
Use it, don't use it, I could care less; just don't claim the messenger service can be used without being "exposed" to FB shullbit at the same time 'cause it just ain't so.
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I'm sorry Ruth but that's utter rubbish, which isn't surprising given that you don't use it - you can even have a completely blank wall on which no one can post if the messenger service is all you want to use, or you can set it so only you can post on your wall (quite a few photographers do that if they just want to show case pics without getting crit on them)
the reason most FB users wind up whinging about it is that they do stupid s*** like leaving the privacy settings set to public, friending complete strangers, leaving recommended b*****ks turned on, and liking loads of b******t orientated pages, then they wonder why their feeds are full of b******t
Which comes back to the OP - if your page is full of idiots and stupid posts , then that's your doing for allowing lots of idiots to see/post on your page in the first place
I've got no problem with anyone choosing to use Whatsapp/viber/snapchat/telegraph countless other messenger apps instead of facebook if they want - but if you've never used something you aren't well placed to be an expert on how it works or how it can be set up.
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Anyone with an iPhone to anyone else with an iPhone?
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Well, that's not unlimited texts, that's texts limited to iPhone users (also known as iMessages).
I know T-Mobile (as they were then) used to include an allowance of international minutes/texts in some of their contracts, I've not heard of any that currently allow unlimited international texts.
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who mentioned international
Not me.I don't need international texts or minutes, email sorts that side of things
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The market has changed since then. People use iMessage and Facetime internationally. They also use Whatsapp, Skype and Facebook Messenger to message and call eachother internationally. There is no need for and international text bundle nowadays.
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who mentioned international
Perhaps you missed it, but that's exactly what the conversation is about
Same here....and why I use email/whatsapp to keep in contact with overseas friends/family.
That's why we were discussing the use of Whatsapp, I wasn't sure of the relevance of @Gremlin's post which is why I questioned it, it now seems it was actually off topic and not actually relevant to international usage.
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No it doesn't! What you see is only fleetingly seen by you, if you interact with it, some other people will see that, but even then it depends how much they interact with you. If you look at my FB timeline, you see what I've posted, not what my mates have posted.
Though the obvious option is to unfollow them to stop seeing posts, you stay friends and they have no idea you don't have to tolerate their b******t.
Although embarrassingly I did ask a question the other week and along with some helpful responses from nice folk, a guy I knew at school suggested I could get what I wanted at the P*** shop
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Please.
Get FB to exclusively use the messenger.
Right.
Please - read your damn post
Actually it is so - you can if you want use the messenger without being exposed to b******t - you can also use facebook without being exposed to the b******t if you wish. As you said Use it, don't use it I don't care , but don't make claims about the useability of something you know nothing about
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i'm not sure who that was directed at - but I do have a 1p a minute tariff for calls to australia on my O2 PAYG (the flip side is that its 30p/min for uk calls - but I don't use it for that as I also have a contract phone which i use for day to day) - however there's a big difference between making a phone call and exchanging FB (or other social media) messages in between doing other stuff on your computer.
Email works too of course but its still easier to type in a messenger window than it is to send and receive emails (the conversation presentation is a lot easier to follow as well) - of course whatsapp works just as well , but not if you are on a work laptop without the ability to install apps (and non mobile signal precluding using a mobile instead)
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well you would if there were any - the fact that you have never managed to grasp is that I only hold forth when I do know what i'm talking about, wheras by your own admission you don't use facebook and thus know absolutely nothing about the user experience... ergo you are not an expert on it , and your opinion of how easy or otherwise it is to use is based on nothing more than hearsay and predjudice
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My Grandma keeps doing this.. I keep trying to explain to her about it but she doesn't realise that they are all a bunch of raving racists.. She also keeps posting those stupid "My kid needs 10,000 likes to cure his cancer" type crap.. again, she just doesn't realise.
Im not convinced computers and old folk mix.
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What FB needs is a block content function so you can just block britain first and have done with it .... they do have that sort of, but it only blocks BF from sharing or contacting you it doesn't reliably block the content based on origin if your friends share it. (though i did read somewhere that they were looking at that)
you could of course set your wall so no one can share stuff with you - which you can explain to grandma/pensioner dad as a blanket thing not personal to them... but that might be a bit overkillish
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Definitely not. (with a fair few anyway, bound to be exceptions)