Dear Fat People - swearing content

[Cobra]

Maybe we should charge more for people with colds

Thats an idea a sliding scale, start with sniffles, a full blown cold, bubonic plague and working up to the worst of all MAN FLU!

 

[Bobsyeruncle]

Best not charge by the weight of shullbit though....I would never get airborne again

Fixed it for you

 

[viv1969]

Fixed it for you

Yes yes, but you lose points for a gargantuan lack of imagination.

 

[Keith W]

Right here it is..

Most airlines if they consider you to be "over weight" will either tell you to buy two tickets or simply refuse to sell you a ticket in the first place especially so if they consider your size may impact cabin safety

And before anyone says it I am aware that tickets can be bought online and that you can book in online etc. However the airline can still stop you from flying

 

[Keith W]

Here is a picture of me aged 29

I used to worry about what people thought of me and how much I weighed, so much so that I stopped eating

I was diagnosed with anorexia and hospitalized

I weigh just 6st 9lb in this picture and the t-shirt I am wearing is a size small

I have put the weight back on and yes I am fat, there is one difference though, I am now happy

I do however still get the hump on occasion when people post cr@ap such as this and make stupid and ignorant comments

 

[Cg_Girl]

Here is a picture of me aged 29

I used to worry about what people thought of me and how much I weighed, so much so that I stopped eating

I was diagnosed with anorexia and hospitalized

I weigh just 6st 9lb in this picture and the t-shirt I am wearing is a size small

I have put the weight back on and yes I am fat, there is one difference though, I am now happy

I do however still get the hump on occasion when people post cr@ap such as this and make stupid and ignorant comments

Bloody hell Keith!... I'm glad you are ok and most importantly happy!

I too am fat, my view is if people don't like it then they can b****r off..... as for this thread, i have no words for half of it lol

 

[Dave *]

I wouldn't worry, Bill seemed to have got a bee in his bonnet over the warning post in the Birds section and decided to stir as much s**t as possible everywhere else on the forum. He seemed to decide that picking on weight was getting him a reaction which was why he continued and got more outlandish and offensive.

Remember the saying, "don't feed the troll" when he returns.

 

[Cg_Girl]

I wouldn't worry, Bill seemed to have got a bee in his bonnet over the warning post in the Birds section and decided to stir as much s**t as possible everywhere else on the forum. He seemed to decide that picking on weight was getting him a reaction which was why he continued and got more outlandish and offensive.

Remember the saying, "don't feed the troll" when he returns.

Yes you are right it really has stemmed from the bird notice, i just can't see why he's got his knickers in a twist over it... the damn notice is the same as to what everyone has been told and i already had a run in with him over it before..
But in all honesty no matter how much we are told not to bite my initial reaction is how bloody dare he lol

 

[jakeblu]

But in all honesty no matter how much we are told not to bite my initial reaction is how bloody dare he lol

Snap, i did the same in another thread, sometimes youve just gotta say whats on your mind .

 

[viv1969]

Bloody hell Keith!... I'm glad you are ok and most importantly happy!

I too am fat, my view is if people don't like it then they can b****r off..... as for this thread, i have no words for half of it lol

Thanks T.....saves me a bunch of typing
So.....ditto for me on all counts!

 

[kendo1]

Maybe he'll learn at his advanced age to say 'sorry' instead of saying something 'is a joke' or he was 'misunderstood'.

I'll not hold my breath waiting.

 

[Cg_Girl]

Maybe he'll learn at his advanced age to say 'sorry' instead of saying something 'is a joke' or he was 'misunderstood'.

I'll not hold my breath waiting.

I wouldn't

 

[kennethwfd]

Thanks for the translation


First there was first class & cattle class, then along came business class.
We had Smoking or none smoking, they seem to have skipped the drinking or none drinking class,
but gone straight for the "fat" "normal" or "skinny" class, where will it all end I wonder ?

Men only class? Colour of your skin class? Oh wait "we" did that and look where that all ended up

immediately reminded of apartheid
Amoungst other things seperate buses for blacks and whites

And John Wyndham's The Crysalids set in a post nuclear war era. Survivors are few and there is a desire that all should breed "true". Deviant livestock is destroyed, while all people have to be inspected and in possession of a valid certificate to confirm this. Deviant people are banished to "the fringes" and women whose children are refused a certificate can be divorced and banished as well.

The narrator and certian friends have telepathic abilities - they can carry on conversations with others with similar ability despite being apart. The authorities learn of this,arrest one member and torture her until she reveals the idientities of the others, who flee to the fringes to avoid arrest

 

[Cobra]

I'll not hold my breath waiting.

That V mask is suitably coloured white. I'm not sure blue would suit it so much

 

[ChasG]

As the thread is about weight I thought I would add my two pennorth.

What annoys me as an overweight person is that the defenders of fat always come across as miserable and whingers. In the second youtube video the woman seems to blame everyone else for her woes and expects that we should sympathise. I have been 'differently able' or, in real speak a cripple, for life and frankly don't give a crap what anyone else thinks about my body shape etc

 

[fracster]

Maybe he'll learn at his advanced age to say 'sorry' instead of saying something 'is a joke' or he was 'misunderstood'.

I'll not hold my breath waiting.

ain't gonna happen. Bill is from Yorkshire.

 

[kendo1]

ain't gonna happen. Bill is from Yorkshire.

Cameron would have something to say to that

 

[Neil B]

ain't gonna happen. Bill is from Yorkshire.

:meh: :indifferent:

 

[BillN_33]

ain't gonna happen. Bill is from Yorkshire.

but of course you would expect me to do my usual "long, long, long" response ....... but there could be typo's and I'll now probably get banned for "good"


On a more serious note, although I saw the Utube vid as “as joke” and funny, with maybe a serious message, I was surprised to be “banned” for posting this and starting the thread, I thought that the OOF area of the forum was the place to post and discuss.

The economic cost of “fat people” is now of concern, just look at the cost to the health service alone. This is a subject that needs to be discussed in every way possible, from all angles, seriously, as a joke or as in the Utube video which maybe derogatory.

I could mention the “economic cost” but will add to my comments about the airline industry and the increasing problems they face because of obesity.

Each year there are more and more “fat people” in Western society. Airlines need to run profitably and safely. Weight is very important in this context and financially if weight increases and is not paid for, they have a problem; average passenger weight has increased. From a safety standpoint they can only push “free” carried weight so far.

Over the past few years Airlines have significantly tighten up on the weight of passenger luggage in order to counter the increased weight (of passengers). They can only go so far and I am advocating that it is now time that “weight” on airlines be paid for in a more appropriate way.

A “fat passenger tax”, (and these words are the words generally used – not mine), has, and is being discussed by the International carriers, but it is as appropriate to small single engine props ……. The subject is still on the table and IMHO, one day such a “fat tax” will be introduced.

If an airline carries more weight for the same total passenger revenue, something has to give. Airlines have introduced more innovative ways to gain revenue through “premium” seat upgrades, (World Traveller plus is an easy one to understand … the seating section is getting bigger), and there are probably now 7 different seating price/choice options on international flights. Also there is a move towards more premium seating and less economy seats and even talk of making economy seats more compact …….. if that happens every traveller on a budget will suffer.

Airlines cannot keep carrying increased weight without gaining more revenue or reducing passenger numbers, the economics just do not work.

The economic cost of “fat people” is now staggering, (3% of GDP is being mentioned!), ……. just read the facts …. there is no point in me going through these, but the extra transportation costs, not only in the air, but also on land because of increasing obesity is significant especially in a world were we are trying to save economic resources. The UK national health service spend more on obesity related care than we do on child poverty, wars, the army, refugees etc., etc.

It is not a question of prejudice as some feel, I see the denial in not recognising this problem as similar to that of smokers 30 years ago. To me it is the same as smoking was/is not only from a health perspective but also with regard to the other social consequences, albeit slightly different ones. Many do not even wish to discuss the matter.

The opinions are; if you want to live a shorter life, be fat, if you want to suffer health problems, be fat, if you want your kids to have the same problems, be fat, if the UK wants to “spend” up to 3% on the economic impact of this allow it to continue……….. it is your choice, we live in a democracy ……. but do not expect society to agree with you and stand by and do nothing, as I said we live in a democracy

Things that have been said in this thread avoid the problem, it is a serious problem …… and it should be raised in every possible way…. banning will never be the answer……. arguments and discussion should be allowed to develop, either way.

Many will say that I am prejudice, I am, as from my perspective, I do not like to sit next to fat people on an aircraft, just as I do not like to sit next to someone who reeks of cigarette smoke …. we are all prejudice in some way, I am quite happy to support charities and good causes but I do object to subsidising fat travellers and I object to paying the same price for my seat ….. whether it be in first class or economy… if my opinion helps to further the debate either way, even in this small area, then I am happy, not sorry, not apologetic……..

This is a photographic forum, I made this posting in OOF, I pointed out that it had swearing content, I was banned from the debate; if that is progress, and it appears to be for many in this thread, then I just do not know what to say……… joke or not.

As most of the people who have commented in this thread disagree with me all I can say is that we share different opinions, as I have said I am not sorry or apologetic, that is not what it is about.

 

[viv1969]

Personally I think you were given a break to enable the world's population of quotation marks to recover.

 

[Dave *]

but of course you would expect me to do my usual "long, long, long" response ....... but there could be typo's and I'll now probably get banned for "good"


On a more serious note, although I saw the Utube vid as “as joke” and funny, with maybe a serious message, I was surprised to be “banned” for posting this and starting the thread,

I think you got the ban for your argumentative trolling rather than the video.

Also, did you buy all the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" on sale somewhere? Did you also just source a collection of ..........................?

You don't....... seem to be able to "type" a........... "sentence" without.......... "using" at least one "set"........ .

 

[BillN_33]

I think you got the ban for your argumentative trolling rather than the video.

Also, did you buy all the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" on sale somewhere?

You don't seem to be able to "type" a "sentence" without "using" at least one "set". .

The warning etc., was issued for the video ..... look back at #1 .......... I can only assume for the swearing content - I did not realise that there was a swearing ban and that applied to published material

but my main argument is to do with airline passengers and I have given my reasons

if you would rather date issues relating to my use of punctuation marks that's up to you

 

[TheBigYin]

look back in more detail Bill...

there were three seperate warnings given for seperate offences in different posts. (posts 1,4 and 11 of this thread)

you were temporarily suspended by accruing points for each of them.

 

[ZoneV]

I'd rather be overweight than angry. Both conditions can shorten life but eating lots of cake sounds much more fun than complaining all the time.

 

[Cg_Girl]

I'd rather be overweight than angry. Both conditions can shorten life but eating lots of cake sounds much more fun than complaining all the time.

I couldnt help but chuckle while nodding my head lol

 

[BillN_33]

look back in more detail Bill...

there were three seperate warnings given for seperate offences in different posts.

you were temporarily suspended by accruing points for each of them.

Mark, I never saw any of the three warnings - I just got the blocked notice when I came back to the Forum - I posted both videos at almost the same time, (10:50 and 10:57pm), presumably the warnings were given within minutes of each other rather than separately

I got the usual banning notice - I tried to contact you on that notice, but the link does not seem to work

 

[POAH]

parents that have fat kids should be shamed, adults that are fat should know better

 

[viv1969]

parents that have fat kids should be shamed, adults that are fat should know better

Kids that have parents too lazy to use case and punctuation should give them a clip 'round the ear.

 

[ZoneV]

Every time I hear Katie Hopkins "fat-shaming" someone, I eat a blueberry muffin.

 

[Nod]

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but its a forum so it dosnt matter wat i right

"

 

[boyfalldown]

Every time I hear Katie Hopkins "fat-shaming" someone, I eat a blueberry muffin.

Every time I hear Katie Hopkins I want to stick my fingers in my ears and shout "Ner, Ner, N Ner Ner, I can't hear you", whilst sticking my tongue out. Seems about the right level.

ps Sorry for the use of quotation marks, but atleast they were used properly

 

[viv1969]

Every time I hear Katie Hopkins I want to stick my fingers in my ears and shout "Ner, Ner, N Ner Ner, I can't hear you", whilst sticking my tongue out. Seems about the right level.

ps Sorry for the use of quotation marks, but atleast they were used properly

Every time I hear her go off on one, I just want to say, "Listen love, I may be fat, but you're ugly...And I can diet."

 

[Gremlin]

parents that have fat kids should be shamed, adults that are fat should know better

Parents don't have fat kids, mothers have the kids and trust me on this, none of us want a fat one,3 kilos was big enough

 

[Marcel]

So should drug addicts just 'know better' ? What about alcoholics?
They can't control the amount of the substance they put into their body either.

Not all people are fat just because they 'like a bit of pie' and to even generalise that it's as easy as that for everyone is insulting.
Anyway....

Bill, you were suspended for an accumulation of one-point warnings that were given out as I scrolled through the thread.
The first had nothing to do with swearing, it was the continuation of an argument from another thread. You didn't just post it for a laugh, and you certainly didn't post it originally for serious discussion or you would have added your own thoughts to the video.
The second was for deliberately bypassing the swear filter and the third for being just rude.

 

[Marcel]

In fact why should I have to sit next to a "big fat lump" who "spills over" into the seat that I have paid for

Probably the same reason that they have to sit next to a "grumpy arse" with their misery spilling over into a seat they've paid for

..... if you want democracy there has to be "fairness"

That's where your argument completely falls over and fails to start.
This is about corporate profit. Nothing to do with democracy. The airlines want to make more money, so they make you pay for your extra bag.
You don't want to pay any extra money so you're trying to use their reasoning and shift blame onto someone else.

"But make them pay instead!!!!" etc etc.

Does that mean small people get a discount? What about kids? Should they pay less because theyre taking up less room in the seat?
What if the plane is half full of small people or kids. That means the airline is going to be out of pocket and will want to charge you extra for your second bag.

Aaaand we're back full circle.

 

[Mr Bump]

I can't be bothered getting stressed when I see mega monster fatties nowadays, if that's what they want I say let them get on with it.
I used to hear from a fat friend that he was fat but happy, now years later he is fat and miserable.

 

[BillN_33]

Probably the same reason that they have to sit next to a "grumpy arse" with their misery spilling over into a seat they've paid for


That's where your argument completely falls over and fails to start.
This is about corporate profit. Nothing to do with democracy. The airlines want to make more money, so they make you pay for your extra bag.
You don't want to pay any extra money so you're trying to use their reasoning and shift blame onto someone else.

"But make them pay instead!!!!" etc etc.

Does that mean small people get a discount? What about kids? Should they pay less because theyre taking up less room in the seat?
What if the plane is half full of small people or kids. That means the airline is going to be out of pocket and will want to charge you extra for your second bag.

Aaaand we're back full circle.

I am discussing obesity here, fat people if you like and specifically on airlines

Airline seats were designed for a certain sized "average" person – because of increasing obesity “average” has got bigger and because of this airlines have become tighter on baggage weights, because of fat people. Airlines need bigger seats.

Of course a fare structure could be worked out, it has already been considered and is in operation with one airline, it is not rocket science.

As for my reasons for posting the vid, I read the news on-line every morning and I thought that the vid was interesting from a number of aspects, that was the only reason, OK I did mention the subject in another thread, so maybe sub-consciously it struck a note, but I did not post the vid for that reason ….. I have also got back from a couple of trips recently and will fly a few times in October ….. and have just booked my seats … so again that could have contributed.

The controversy around the vid is still running and the debate concerning obesity will only get stronger....... it is a serious issue and there is a refusal to recognise it by many people in many situations, transportation being one of them.

If you are "fat" maybe you dislike the arguments, if you are what can be deemed as "normal" maybe you could not care less ......... but there are many in society of all shapes and sizes that care about these issues and will bring it to notice in any way that they can, humour, insults, jokes, examples, etc., and the situation is getting worse not better

 

[viv1969]

now years later he is fat and miserable.

So what?
I see thin people who are as miserable as sin all the time....What's their excuse?

 

[Nikon_Nick]

What's their excuse?

Always cold.

 

[neil_g]

what do you mean popcorn isnt one of my 5-a-day?