A funny thing happened......or a warning?

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Here's a funny thing . Went to local market town, Daventry, for food and money. Went to the hole in the wall at Nat West for dosh and as I was stuffing the huge wedge of cash, well, 50 quid, into my wallet I felt a tap on my shoulder. I turned round expecting to see a mate or something but it was a 30 - 40 year old bloke who had a £5 note in his hand. In reasonably good English (he was Asian/Far-Eastern) he said that the £5 was on the pavement and that I'd dropped it. I knew I'd got a 20 and a fiver still in my wallet so I thanked him profusely and put it away without checking if the original was there. As I crossed the road I thought it odd 'cos it would've been v difficult to drop that fiver. Never mind I thought, if the original's still there I'll put it in the air-ambulance pot at the pub. Went shopping and forgot about it.
About 15 mins later, I'd done shopping and heading back to the car park I went through a little alley or ginnell, you know one person wide thing. No-one else around, got to end of alley and a tap on my shoulder. Same man, said in broken English that he thought the fiver was his, he'd dropped it and would I check my wallet. I'm starting to get into defence mode now but checked wallet and sure enough, my fiver's there so I gave him his back. He'd got a folded 20 in his hand and said, "Please , you have £10 notes, please give me 2 for this £20". I'm deffo in defence mode now, "No mate" says I " I just got these from the bank, I don't know where your 20 came from". Left it at that.
The more I thought about it the more I thought there must be a scam here, so I phoned the local old bill and told them the story. "It might be totally innocent" I said.
"No ",said the nice lady copper "It sounds very dodgey".
Asked if I was OK, "'cos it can't have been very nice having been stalked for 15 mins!"
I said I hadn't thought of that....now you mention it, not very nice.
Anyway she gave me a ref number and said they'd keep an eye out.
So what do you think? Scam of some sort, phoney £20 notes or innocent?
My thinking, fake 20's, give £5 to prove honesty etc.....
 
Here's a funny thing . Went to local market town, Daventry, for food and money. Went to the hole in the wall at Nat West for dosh and as I was stuffing the huge wedge of cash, well, 50 quid, into my wallet I felt a tap on my shoulder. I turned round expecting to see a mate or something but it was a 30 - 40 year old bloke who had a £5 note in his hand. In reasonably good English (he was Asian/Far-Eastern) he said that the £5 was on the pavement and that I'd dropped it. I knew I'd got a 20 and a fiver still in my wallet so I thanked him profusely and put it away without checking if the original was there. As I crossed the road I thought it odd 'cos it would've been v difficult to drop that fiver. Never mind I thought, if the original's still there I'll put it in the air-ambulance pot at the pub. Went shopping and forgot about it.
About 15 mins later, I'd done shopping and heading back to the car park I went through a little alley or ginnell, you know one person wide thing. No-one else around, got to end of alley and a tap on my shoulder. Same man, said in broken English that he thought the fiver was his, he'd dropped it and would I check my wallet. I'm starting to get into defence mode now but checked wallet and sure enough, my fiver's there so I gave him his back. He'd got a folded 20 in his hand and said, "Please , you have £10 notes, please give me 2 for this £20". I'm deffo in defence mode now, "No mate" says I " I just got these from the bank, I don't know where your 20 came from". Left it at that.
The more I thought about it the more I thought there must be a scam here, so I phoned the local old bill and told them the story. "It might be totally innocent" I said.
"No ",said the nice lady copper "It sounds very dodgey".
Asked if I was OK, "'cos it can't have been very nice having been stalked for 15 mins!"
I said I hadn't thought of that....now you mention it, not very nice.
Anyway she gave me a ref number and said they'd keep an eye out.
So what do you think? Scam of some sort, phoney £20 notes or innocent?
My thinking, fake 20's, give £5 to prove honesty etc.....

Fake 20s would be my guess, though of course Daventry does have some really odd types ;)
 
My feeling would be fake £20 too though it seems a lot of work on his part for twenty quid.
 
Fake 20s would be my guess, though of course Daventry does have some really odd types ;)

Wadya mean, I only get there once a week:)
 
Do you still have your bank card? The first part of your post describes a well-known scam where the proffering of the "lost" fiver is a diversionary tactic whilst an accomplice nicks your card from the machine having read your PIN whilst you keyed it in. The second part is more of a mystery, but maybe the first scam failed and they thought part two may yield a profit?

At the very least I'd change my PIN immediately.
 
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My feeling would be fake £20 too though it seems a lot of work on his part for twenty quid.
True Hugh, perhaps he's a novice! Or, totally innocent. I'd hate to finger the wrong guy. (Please don't read that the wrong way:))
 
True Hugh, perhaps he's a novice! Or, totally innocent. I'd hate to finger the wrong guy. (Please don't read that the wrong way:))


ooer missus!
 
True Hugh, perhaps he's a novice! Or, totally innocent. I'd hate to finger the wrong guy. (Please don't read that the wrong way:))

Too late there!!...

I do agree tho it's dodgy... And it IS. Daventry! I'm not fair from there and wouldn't even be wanting to walk alleyways in daylight
 
Too late there!!...

I do agree tho it's dodgy... And it IS. Daventry! I'm not fair from there and wouldn't even be wanting to walk alleyways in daylight

So you're not a blonde then?:)
 
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Oh b****r...I can't believe i did that ( I shall use the ' I was on my phone' excuse):lol:

No worries, so you are blonde then:) Sorry, that's sexist and blondist. I retract this post.
 
No worries, so you are blonde then:) Sorry, that's sexist and blondist. I retract this post.


:lol::lol: thankfully i'm not quite blonde, perhaps fair was correct after all lol

Although you may get the:bat: for such cheek:D
 
:lol::lol: thankfully i'm not quite blonde, perhaps fair was correct after all lol

Although you may get the:bat: for such cheek:D

I've been a very naughty boy:naughty: I'll accept the punishment:)
 
So you happily took the fiver without checking if it was your own, and are doubting the sincerity of the other guy? :thinking:
 
hmmm.. .lots of dodgy £20's around this part of the world (Norwich) at the moment.

I would be suspicious.. it's either swapping a dud £20 for 2 x proper £10's... or another scam is to keep on changing notes etc with the same person, hoping to confuse them and the "walking away with a profit!"
 
So you happily took the fiver without checking if it was your own, and are doubting the sincerity of the other guy? :thinking:

Well, he said I'd dropped it, so I beleived him. Perhaps I'm naive.
 
Maybe the fiver was "iffy" and you may have given him a good one back,
for the dodgy one one he "gave" you?
Jeeze my brain hurts :D

It does seem a lot of effort, "just to wash" a couple of iffy notes though :shrug:
 
I'd change my PIN number immediately for starters.
In my mind these are always going to be a scam of some sort. Not found any chalk marks on your clothes by any chance have you.

I try very hard only to use ATMs that are actually inside the bank.
 
as a OAP can someone please explain whats a £20 note please :lol::lol::lol:
 
Do you still have your bank card? The first part of your post describes a well-known scam where the proffering of the "lost" fiver is a diversionary tactic whilst an accomplice nicks your card from the machine having read your PIN whilst you keyed it in. The second part is more of a mystery, but maybe the first scam failed and they thought part two may yield a profit? At the very least I'd change my PIN immediately.

It does sound like a variation of the "lost necklace" divertion
 
It does sound like some sort of setup. There are a couple of possibilities, as above.

I'd also be concerned about using an ATM and being taken by surprise when someone taps you on the shoulder. That means they're right behind you - in your space - and you weren't aware of it.
 
I would say it some kind of set up! I lived in Daventry for 3 years from 2001 and had no problem walking around the place but maybe I was young and stupid! The place if full of some really odd people though and I'm glad I don't live there anymore even though it's well located in the country to get to many places easily and house prices are great in comparison to where I live now.
I heard of a similar scam where they do the same thing about a fiver on the floor but do it just before your money comes out and work in pairs to distract you and the other person takes your money out of the hole in the wall when you bend down to take the fiver!
 
Thanks for the feed-back and advice everyone. I'll change my PIN when I get to town again. I guess we have to be vigilant these days, shame :(
 
Scam scam scam. I'd have kept his fiver and told him to eff off, assisted by a wee Glesga kiss:D. Thieving scum:thumbsdown:
 
Scam scam scam. I'd have kept his fiver and told him to eff off, assisted by a wee Glesga kiss:D. Thieving scum:thumbsdown:

In English? ;)

What he means dear is "I would have refused to return the five pound note, suggest that he may wish to fornicate off in the other direction, by way of further encouragement to leave I would have given him a little reminder of the power my head possesses :D
 
What he means dear is "I would have refused to return the five pound note, suggest that he may wish to fornicate off in the other direction, by way of further encouragement to leave I would have given him a little reminder of the power my head possesses :D

Correct. F***in' stitch that:bang::D:D
 
What he means dear is "I would have refused to return the five pound note, suggest that he may wish to fornicate off in the other direction, by way of further encouragement to leave I would have given him a little reminder of the power my head possesses :D
Correct. F***in' stitch that:bang::D:D


Ahhhh :lol:

OUCH!
 
You're safe;)
 
feeling how hard your head is :grin:

Apparently its smooth and shiny as well - but bear in mind that you don't know where its been ;)

On the original topic (before the banter police get us) I'd say either its a distraction theft techniquee, or its a prequel to a mugging (ie he comes back to you in a spot away from the cash machine- and thus out of CCTV view- you get your wallet out and bosh he takes the lot)

It doesnt seem likely that its about washing forged 20s as its a lot of effort to go to for two tens and there are far easier ways (like passing them in busy shops, or for that matter in a crap hole like Dav openly selling them in dodgy pubs for a discount)
 
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Apparently its smooth and shiny as well - but bear in mind that you don't know where its been ;)

On the original topic (before the banter police get us) I'd say either its a distraction theft techniquee, or its a prequel to a mugging (ie he comes back to you in a spot away from the cash machine- and thus out of CCTV view- you get your wallet out and bosh he takes the lot)

It doesnt seem likely that its about washing forged 20s as its a lot of effort to go to for two tens and there are far easier ways (like passing them in busy shops, or for that matter in a crap hole like Dav openly selling them in dodgy pubs for a discount)

Interesting BSM and also worrying, yes, he could have stopped me anywhere but chose a small alley where no-one else was.
Not heard back from the old Bill, don't expect I will now.
 
If its a hoax, he's risking not getting his £5 back each time isn't he which seems odd.
Unless its the £5 which is fake and he's going on a slight chance of getting a real £5 given back instead of the one he gave out, in which case makes the effort he's gone to even more not probable. Very weird system.
 
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