Worst case of speeding I have witnessed.

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I was travelling home today on the A1 2 lane dual carriageway, I was doing about 70 and got a hell of a fright when a car overtook me at such a speed it rocked my car, I swear he must have been doing more than 140 mph, all I noticed was that it was a black saloon and was out of sight by the time I had recovered from the shock.
The driver overtook about 3 cars in front of me and I hate to imagine what would have happened if one of those or even myself had decided to overtake, between mirror, signal and manoeuvre a collision would not have been avoided.
 
i'll take some one driving too fast over someone driving badly any day - don't take that the wrong way i'm just saying if conditions are good, and the road clear then why should we not all drive at 100mph...

BUT

when conditions are bad then even on a motorway 40mph may be the correct speed - i just wish the the police would look beyond JUST the speed of cars and look at the way people drive

to the OP i had something the same, some time ago - 60 mph on a straight fast road a bike went past be at a ballistic speed - shook me up a bit - but the conditions were good and they caused no problem to anyone....


I think motorways should had condition related speed limits (aka m25) with the top limit being 100mph and the lower end around 30mph
 
sportysnaps said:
I think motorways should had condition related speed limits (aka m25) with the top limit being 100mph and the lower end around 30mph
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So do i, but then would need to get a bigger car to go that fast haha

A ford mondeo has come past me on the motorway before and must have been doing over 100mph. And also a van that must have been doing over 100mph but that was just funny.

Tony
 
Techno-Geek said:
So do i, but then would need to get a bigger car to go that fast haha

A ford mondeo has come past me on the motorway before and must have been doing over 100mph. And also a van that must have been doing over 100mph but that was just funny.

Tony
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I think new drivers should be limited to 1000cc cars (so you're ok, Tony :thumbs:) and barred from driving between the hours of 11pm and 6.30am for the first two years...
 
Flash In The Pan said:
I think new drivers should be limited to 1000cc cars (so you're ok, Tony :thumbs:) and barred from driving between the hours of 11pm and 6.30am for the first two years...
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I agree to the first bit but the second bit.... :p
 
Flash In The Pan said:
I think new drivers should be limited to 1000cc cars
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Limit all cars ! simple solution to a major problem.....nobody really needs a car to have the excessive speeds that road cars are achieving. Im not saying we should all be driving suzuki swifts or anything like that but do engine sizes need to be so large and fuel consumptive ?

IMO most fast drivers are irresponsible and lack driving skills. Yes its easy to drive at excessive speeds but not so easy to handle the car when things go pear shaped..As mentioned when you are overtaken at crazy speeds on motorway or A roads, you can be shaken up , which in turn affects your own driving.


Doesnt the highway code say somewhere that nothing you do as a driver should affect anybody elses use of the highway ??
 
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The problem is not speed, it's the combination of speed, lack of experience and inappropriate vehicle.

My Focus ST has a top speed of around 150mph, put that in the hands of an inexperienced driver and it goes wrong. Likewise, a car capable of such speeds has adequate brakes and suspension, so travelling at 100-110mph is much safer than somebody pushing a Ford Ka to 90.....

It's about "Safe Speed". My bike will reach 175mph, but I'd never dream of riding at high speed on anywhere but an empty motorway (and not in the UK either).

I have to add (and don't take this the wrong way) if the guy in the dark saloon took you by surprise, have you not considered that if you had of been more aware of what was around you (regular use of mirrors etc) that you may have been better prepared ?

The guy was clearly driving too fast for the situation and needs a reality check....

Steve
 
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A few years ago I had a similar experience on the M40 with a motorbike. He was trying to squeeze through all the traffic, and ended up overtaking me on the outside of my car. I was in the fast lane at the time, and the motorway was busy, he was easily doing over 100 at times.

The next time I saw him, he was on the hard shoulder, and was not enjoying the conversation with the boys in blue. I doubt he was able to ride home, I only hope his pillion had a license, cos he wouldn't have kept his........
 
sportysnaps said:
i'll take some one driving too fast over someone driving badly any day - don't take that the wrong way i'm just saying if conditions are good, and the road clear then why should we not all drive at 100mph...

BUT

when conditions are bad then even on a motorway 40mph may be the correct speed - i just wish the the police would look beyond JUST the speed of cars and look at the way people drive

to the OP i had something the same, some time ago - 60 mph on a straight fast road a bike went past be at a ballistic speed - shook me up a bit - but the conditions were good and they caused no problem to anyone....


I think motorways should had condition related speed limits (aka m25) with the top limit being 100mph and the lower end around 30mph
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The point is that you are not expecting somebody to approach at that speed ,I had a similar case on the M40 earlier this year when I checked my mirrors all was clear but luckily as I was about to pull out only 5 seconds later I checked again and this car was nearly upon me and went passed as iff I was standing still
 
Jelster said:
The problem is not speed, it's the combination of speed, lack of experience and inappropriate vehicle.

My Focus ST has a top speed of around 150mph, put that in the hands of an inexperienced driver and it goes wrong. Likewise, a car capable of such speeds has adequate brakes and suspension, so travelling at 100-110mph is much safer than somebody pushing a Ford Ka to 90.....

It's about "Safe Speed". My bike will reach 175mph, but I'd never dream of riding at high speed on anywhere but an empty motorway (and not in the UK either).

I have to add (and don't take this the wrong way) if the guy in the dark saloon took you by surprise, have you not considered that if you had of been more aware of what was around you (regular use of mirrors etc) that you may have been better prepared ?

The guy was clearly driving too fast for the situation and needs a reality check....

Steve
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Mmmmm, well the facts are, for those that may know the area, I was driving north on the Morpeth bypass approaching the bottom of the dip, I was driving appropriate to the conditions of the road including adequate use of my mirror, and within the law, he was not.

As I said adequate use of my mirror for the conditions of the road so In consideration of the facts in my opinion I could not have been more aware of a car approaching me at possibly 70-80 mph faster than my own safe speed.
 
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sorry, but if he was doing such an excessive speed on a dual carriageway, he is plainly a prat.
assuming he/she was doing, say,110mph and galaxy was doing a legal 70.
if galaxy had pulled out to pass a slower car , and not seen/assesed aproaching cars speed wrongly, then there would have been a speed difference of 40mph.
now at 110 mph, 40mph takes a fair bit of losing.
and imagine an impact in those circumstances.
already like hitting a stationary car at 40mph. then add the possible carnage of two cars running off the road or colliding with other cars at 70mph.
not nice.
now if the guy had been on the outside lane of a motorway, with a clear lane between him and the next vehicle, he'd still be stupid, but far less likely to cause injury or death.
and yes, i do own a motorbike capable of in excess of 135,
but as i dont want to die yet, it has seldom been anywhere near that.
i suppose , in a few years time, all vehicles will be speed limited, if only to conserve what fuel we have left.
 
new drivers should just get double points if they do anything wrong

i've got to say that i've done 140 a few times on busy motorways
its nothing to do with your own skill or car (although an F1 driver in Ferrari would be safer than a mum with 7 kids in the her wobbly 4x4 at 140mph).
Its to do with the other people on the road..
When you make a manouvre its supposed to be Mirror Signal Manouvre. There is a certain amount of time between mirror and manouvre. A safe amount of time if cars are coming up behind you at 70mph, but not at 140mph.
 
I wasn't condoning his actions, he was clearly stupid; but one of the best things that the IAM ever taught me was to be "very" aware of your situation. Accidents occur when things happen that you don't expect, so being very vigilant reduces this risk, that's all I was saying.

It's obvious from my choice of transport that I don't drive slowly, but I don't like taking risks either..... This guys choice of time and location to drive like that show that he has poor judgement, probably from a lack of experience.

But as mentioned by somebody else above, I'll take a speeder rather than a bafoon on the road any day; the problem lies when the bafoon also speeds (and then they're generally in a 3 series BMW....)

Steve
 
I personally speaking hate all speeders to be 100% honest.

Why do they think they have speed limits and if a sign says 70 then you should be doing 70 not 75 not 80 just 70 max.

If only there was some police around and some that could be bothered doing their job then it would be nice but until then the peeps that cant read or understand can do whatever they without fear of punishment.

After all it is the law :)
 
Jelster said:
The problem is not speed, it's the combination of speed, lack of experience and inappropriate vehicle.

My Focus ST has a top speed of around 150mph, put that in the hands of an inexperienced driver and it goes wrong. Likewise, a car capable of such speeds has adequate brakes and suspension, so travelling at 100-110mph is much safer than somebody pushing a Ford Ka to 90.....

It's about "Safe Speed". My bike will reach 175mph, but I'd never dream of riding at high speed on anywhere but an empty motorway (and not in the UK either).

I have to add (and don't take this the wrong way) if the guy in the dark saloon took you by surprise, have you not considered that if you had of been more aware of what was around you (regular use of mirrors etc) that you may have been better prepared ?

The guy was clearly driving too fast for the situation and needs a reality check....

Steve
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^^^ What he said

I always used to say this when i had quick turbocharged cars that would **** it to 150mph.

They had the brakes and suspension to cope, and alot of the time it would be safer traveling at 125 in that than a chav in his corsa at 80.

If anything happened, it be able to scrub the speed down a hell of a lot quicker than a little car with little tyres driving on both the speed limit and the limit of the vehicle.
 
Wasn't Matt driving was it? :p

Screaming because the accelerator was stuck :lol:
 
1DMARKII said:
I personally speaking hate all speeders to be 100% honest.

Why do they think they have speed limits and if a sign says 70 then you should be doing 70 not 75 not 80 just 70 max.

If only there was some police around and some that could be bothered doing their job then it would be nice but until then the peeps that cant read or understand can do whatever they without fear of punishment.

After all it is the law :)
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Speed doenst kill, its inappropriate speed that kills.

Just because its the law doesnt make it right, its also the law that if you kick the **** out of a burglar you can get prosecuted.... is this correct too?
 
1DMARKII said:
I personally speaking hate all speeders to be 100% honest.

Why do they think they have speed limits and if a sign says 70 then you should be doing 70 not 75 not 80 just 70 max.

If only there was some police around and some that could be bothered doing their job then it would be nice but until then the peeps that cant read or understand can do whatever they without fear of punishment.

After all it is the law :)
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And you never, ever break the speed limit ? Not even on those quirky 40mph dual carriageways that should be 60, or the Motorway network ?

Steve
 
Monkey said:
Speed doenst kill, its inappropriate speed that kills.

Just because its the law doesnt make it right, its also the law that if you kick the **** out of a burglar you can get prosecuted.... is this correct too?
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That would be an ecumenical matter! ;)

Surely going faster means a higher risk of death - hit a child / lampost or tree etc at a slow a speed as possible would surely increase the chance of survival?

Jelster said:
And you never, ever break the speed limit ? Not even on those quirky 40mph dual carriageways that should be 60, or the Motorway network ?

Steve
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No I do not actually - Never have and hopefully never will :)

Shock horror I know someone actually obeying the law ;)
 
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100 plus on a duel carriageway is silly , and anyone driving ay that speed and dosent expect the poo to hit the fan at some point is even sillier (?)still.
 
Jelster said:
I wasn't condoning his actions, he was clearly stupid; but one of the best things that the IAM ever taught me was to be "very" aware of your situation. Accidents occur when things happen that you don't expect, so being very vigilant reduces this risk, that's all I was saying.

It's obvious from my choice of transport that I don't drive slowly, but I don't like taking risks either..... This guys choice of time and location to drive like that show that he has poor judgement, probably from a lack of experience.

But as mentioned by somebody else above, I'll take a speeder rather than a bafoon on the road any day; the problem lies when the bafoon also speeds (and then they're generally in a 3 series BMW....)[/SIZE
Steve
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I know you weren't Steve :) and it is good advice to be very aware of the possibility of other drivers doing something stupid.
 
Galaxy66 said:
I know you weren't Steve :) and it is good advice to be very aware of the possibility of other drivers doing something stupid.
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I remember a senior traffic policeman giving this piece of advice -

Assume that every other motorist on the road is a suicidal drunk and drive accordingly.*



*I'm hoping from that he meant be careful, rather than go and get steaming drunk yourself.....
 
Jelster said:
And you never, ever break the speed limit ? Not even on those quirky 40mph dual carriageways that should be 60, or the Motorway network ?

Steve
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1DMARKII said:
No I do not actually - Never have and hopefully never will :)

Shock horror I know someone actually obeying the law ;)
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I find that very hard to believe, but well done to you if you do.......

Steve
 
badgerbaiter said:
new drivers should just get double points if they do anything wrong
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New drivers have to re take their driving test if they get 6 points within 2 years of taking their test.

I just looked at the government website and there's a new endorsement I hadn't heard of.

DD90 Furious driving 3-9 points

A few weeks ago I was on the M62, the bit with the farmhouse in the middle, heading towards manchester in the inside lane doing about 60mph.

2 bikes came past me at a speed I couldn't believe, I would say they were doing 170+, they were going that fast I couldn't even see what they were, just 2 flashes of blue and white and they were gone, crazy.

a few years ago I was on the M6 in Cumbria, a Porsche overtook my van doing about 110, he hadn't seen the Police Volvo sitting on the downward side of the junction he'djust passed, the Volvo started accelerating down the slip road, those T5 volvos really shift, he'd caught the porsche in under a mile and was just pulling him over as I drove past.
 
Would be ironic if this car in the original post was actually an marked police training car, seen a few of them around here on the country roads going crazy speeds. Always tends to be dark coloured cars.
 
Galaxy66 said:
I was travelling home today on the A1 2 lane dual carriageway, I was doing about 70 and got a hell of a fright when a car overtook me at such a speed it rocked my car, I swear he must have been doing more than 140 mph, all I noticed was that it was a black saloon and was out of sight by the time I had recovered from the shock.
The driver overtook about 3 cars in front of me and I hate to imagine what would have happened if one of those or even myself had decided to overtake, between mirror, signal and manoeuvre a collision would not have been avoided.
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I just can't help thinking that this is a case of bad observation on your part, always be prepared for the unexpected while driving, I do nigh on 40k a year and this has NEVER happened to me, yes I have been passed by vehicles doing probably twice my speed but I am always aware that they are coming, gives me a buzz if I am honest, in fact most of the time it is the Police doing driver training out of Penrith.

Fact is if anyone was looking to overtake you should have seen that vehicle coming, I would also say that the faster vehicle will have been looking at what you guys were doing aswel !
 
dseered said:
I just can't help thinking that this is a case of bad observation on your part, always be prepared for the unexpected while driving, I do nigh on 40k a year and this has NEVER happened to me, yes I have been passed by vehicles doing probably twice my speed but I am always aware that they are coming, gives me a buzz if I am honest, in fact most of the time it is the Police doing driver training out of Penrith.

Fact is if anyone was looking to overtake you should have seen that vehicle coming, I would also say that the faster vehicle will have been looking at what you guys were doing aswel !
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So I am the bad guy here :lol::lol::lol:
 
Galaxy66 said:
So I am the bad guy here :lol::lol::lol:
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ironically if you had pulled out to overtake then from an insurance point of view you would have been in the wrong for not ensuring it was clear before changing lanes.

Insurance rules are almost as silly as out speed limits which were decided years ago.
 
I have been in a car doing 120mph on a public road. With my 3 month pregnant sister in the passenger seat. To say my brother in law got a b********g would be an understatement. Well he sold his CTR 3 months later, that is how much of a tellling off he got. My sister was not impressed.
 
All the people who 'try' to justify speeding I bet have never had someone close to them killed by a speeder ~ I have.

I always try to stay within the speed limit (do I fail sometimes? I'm sure I do, I'm only human but I never knowingly speed).

Speed kills, simple.
 
Remember when I was nearly in a crash. A tractor pulled out onto a duel caridgeway doing a very slow speed. I Breaked, the car in front breaked so hard and pulled out. I tried to pull out to avoid hitting the tractor but someone flew up the outside doing about 100mph, breaking hard but couldn't get past the tractor as the first car had breaked so hard and was in front of it. The tractor, me and the speeding car all went along the duel carridgeway at the same time. Don't know how we survived because I did have my eyes shut whilst screaming aaaaaaaarg!!!!!!:eek:

Just shows how many cars and factors can be involved.
 
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