Will fox hunting be legal again?

viv1969 said:
More children are killed by their own parents each year than by pet dogs.
Perhaps we should make tighter controls over what type of "fcukwits" are permitted to breed.
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+1 best comment of the thread so far.
 
viv1969 said:
Except for being different breeds.
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but it makes b****r all difference to what i was saying - hunting a fox with a pack of dogs whether they are foxhounds ,beagles, or f*****g spaniels for that matter, followed by a horde of morons on horseback is a vastly inefficient way to carry out pest control , especially compared to one man with a rifle and a lamp, and a lurcher .
 
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big soft moose said:
but it makes b****r all difference to what i was saying - hunting a fox with a pack of dogs whether they are foxhounds ,beagles, or f*****g spaniels for that matter, followed by a horde of morons on horseback is a vastly inefficient way to carry out pest control , especially compared to one man with a rifle and a lamp, and a lurcher .
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Good fun though.

Kiss your mother with that mouth?
 
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big soft moose said:
but it makes b****r all difference to what i was saying - hunting a fox with a pack of dogs whether they are foxhounds ,beagles, or f*****g spaniels for that matter, followed by a horde of morons on horseback is a vastly inefficient way to carry out pest control , especially compared to one man with a rifle and a lamp, and a lurcher .
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Utter and complete ,uneducated frivolous claptrap.

No shock there then.
 
big soft moose said:
but it makes b****r all difference to what i was saying - hunting a fox with a pack of dogs whether they are foxhounds ,beagles, or f*****g spaniels for that matter, followed by a horde of morons on horseback is a vastly inefficient way to carry out pest control , especially compared to one man with a rifle and a lamp, and a lurcher .
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It makes a massive difference. Hunting foxes with beagles is the equivalent of going after one with an FC rated .22" air rifle. You could just about get away with it, but no one in their right mind would try.

It's a body weight to quarry ratio. Hounds can guarantee a clean kill, beagles and harriers can't.

Explain to me just how much you know about the countryside again?
 
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big soft moose said:
but it makes b****r all difference to what i was saying - hunting a fox with a pack of dogs whether they are foxhounds ,beagles, or f*****g spaniels for that matter, followed by a horde of morons on horseback is a vastly inefficient way to carry out pest control , especially compared to one man with a rifle and a lamp, and a lurcher .
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Last I knew a lurcher was a type of dog, so therefore that would be illegal :thinking:
I really do you think you need to learn how to use Google and check your facts before posting
 
DemiLion said:
It makes a massive different. Hunting foxes with beagles is the equivalent of going after one with an FC rated .22" air rifle. You could just about get away with it, but no one in their right mind would try.

It's a body weight to quarry ratio. Hounds can guarantee a clean kill, beagles and harriers can't.

Explain to me just how much you know about the countryside again?
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He knows nothing, thinks he does, but knows the square root of fqall.
 
Gremlin said:
Last I knew a lurcher was a type of dog, so therefore that would be illegal :thinking:
I really do you think you need to learn how to use Google and check your facts before posting
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Why the hell would anybody with a rifle and lamp need a bloody lurcher? They don`t, fox would tie a lurcher in bits,wrap it around trees and fences in 5 seconds flat. BSM is spouting utter drivel,again.
 
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fracster said:
Why the hell would anybody with a rifle and lamp need a bloody lurcher? They don`t, fox would tie a lurcher in bits,wrap it around trees and fences in 5 seconds flat. BSM is spouting utter drivel,again.
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But he's a ranger he must be telling the truth :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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More to the point, the lurcher would put the fox off in the first place. I don't know any gamekeeper that lamps with a dog. That's for pikies (in the true meaning of the word before anyone chirrups up) and they wouldn't be using weapons.
 
BSM puts his ear to the ground,says buffalo come, Lone Ranger says how do you know, BSM says they have better IQ than I, how can I judge.
 
ST4 said:
So the majority of people which fox hunting doesbt effect is right.

It's about liberties and the erosion of people's pass times that I'm worried about. What's next, shooting, fishing, hill waking, photography because some clueless socialist takes a dislike to a passtime practiced by someone wealthier than them?

Basically the chippy labourites don't like the "toffs" so thought this would be a good way to get one over.
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On the contrary, there was a farmer interviewed on TV who wished to 'wind the clock back'.. if anyone wants to undo the hard work since the mass trespass on Kinder Scout it's the landed gentry.
 
Well, this ganging up on someone is just delightful to watch. Have a marvellous evening all.
 
Llamaman said:
Well, this ganging up on someone is just delightful to watch. Have a marvellous evening all.
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When a person dishes it out often enough, it shouldn't be a great surprise if occassionally it comes back and bites that person in the ass.
 
Llamaman said:
Well, this ganging up on someone is just delightful to watch. Have a marvellous evening all.
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Problem is that Pete posts like he knows everything about this sort of thing Andy. In effect he knows nothing whatsoever, his posts and opinions are nonsense.

We are all entitled to an opinion,some are experienced about the subject and read what others post, sometimes with mirth and sometimes with understanding, we may not agree with others thoughts and opinions, yet 99% of the time we accept them.Differing as they are.

Petes imagined knowledge and expertise on subjects like this are beyond mirth and micky taking anymore, he truly is clueless and posts for the sake of posting and attempting to impress people who don`t realise he has no idea what he is talking about.

His mention of lurchers in aiding fox shooting is evidence enough.
 
Llamaman said:
Well, this ganging up on someone is just delightful to watch. Have a marvellous evening all.
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Don't worry, he will be back shortly swearing and accusing us all of being humourless idiots who know nothing in his usual form when he is losing an argument
 
DemiLion said:
Explain to me just how much you know about the countryside again?
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20 years experience as a proffesional countryside worker - ie considerably more than you do, so wind your neck in

For example i know enough to know that "beagles" vary dramatically in size and bodyweight - and that foxhounds were originally bred from beagles by crossing in larger dogs such as stag hounds in the early 1800s. and that while I should have said "foxhound" in my original point the argument that stems from there is the usual tiresome pedantry, as the term "beagle" is also sometimes used by the media to refer to foxhounds.

I also know enough to know that beagle packs can in fact be used to hunt foxes, particularly in close conditions, - and commonly did so before the ban particularly in Devon and Cornwall. - plus of course beagles can also be used to flush foxes to the gun - but that is more of an american thing (its common as a sport in virginia)

I also know how to read english - a skill you seem to be sorely lacking - I didnt say that there was b****r all difference between hunting foxes with beagles and hunting foxes with foxhounds - if you actually read and comprehend I said that the breed of dog makes b****r all difference to the point i was making

Which for the hard of thinking was that hunting foxes with hounds (particularly followed by huntsmen on horseback) is grossly inefficient as well as being destructive to the landscape, and inhumane to the quarry (and the kill isnt as quick as some would like to believe- but even if it were being chased for miles first is incredibly stressful

If foxes are a pest (which they sometimes are) they can be controlled by a marksman with a rifle, a lurcher, and a lamp, but "the hunt" as f*** all to do with pest control - its a sport - in fact prior to the HWD ban it was unusual for the hunt members to ban their tenants from controlling foxes by more efficient means so that there'd be plenty to hunt.

and as to no keeper hunting with a rifle and a lurcher - I respectfully submit that you have your head so far up your arse you can see daylight. Most of the keepers I know keep a long dog and use it as back up to ensure that if a fox is wounded it doesnt get away... if you stay downwind the fox doesn't even know the dog is there.

On the whole I 'd suggest you go back to pretending to be a moderator in the business forum (and yes i know that this little discussion is a direct result of my calling you on that) at least there you have some experience in what you are talking about, even if you attitude makes you come over as a pompous ****
 
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Wrong target mate. Strange you didn't try to have a go at Ade.

And you are still spouting BS.
 
Oh and one other thing....

If you want to go down the track of the use of English will you please, for the love of God, for once and for all learn how to spell professional.
 
Is this still going on? I'd better go and get some more popcorn.
 
big soft moose said:
If foxes are a pest (which they sometimes are) they can be controlled by a marksman with a rifle, a lurcher, and a lamp, but "the hunt" as f*** all to do with pest control - its a sport - in fact prior to the HWD ban it was unusual for the hunt members to ban their tenants from controlling foxes by more efficient means so that there'd be plenty to hunt.
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and your point is??
Surely if they wanted plenty for the hunt they would have banned other means of control

big soft moose said:
and as to no keeper hunting with a rifle and a lurcher - I respectfully submit that you have your head so far up your arse you can see daylight. Most of the keepers I know keep a long dog and use it as back up to ensure that if a fox is wounded it doesnt get away.
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I take it you do know that a Lurcher and a Longdog are two different things, so which do your keeper friends have or do they keep one at home and for hunting?
Still an illegal actrivity so perhaps you shouldn't be spouting about it on a public forum
 
Llamaman said:
Is this still going on? I'd better go and get some more popcorn.
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I'm done with it now - after stating the same point 3 times its to be hoped that anyone who's not trolling deliberately understands what my opinion on the subject is (course those who are trolling deliberately can argue in an empty room - so good luck to them with that)
 
DemiLion said:
Oh and one other thing....

If you want to go down the track of the use of English will you please, for the love of God, for once and for all learn how to spell professional.
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I really object to pleonasms within the structure of a sentence. Nothing worse !
 
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