Which Nikon Full Frame would i go for

Another thread i`m out of.

Thanks for the advice Hugh.
 
so many people obsessed with full frame, learn what you can do with the camera you have, sure if you can afford full frame then go for it, but all to often people think they NEED full frame when infact that dont know half the settings etc on crop.
 
Philx1979 said:
so many people obsessed with full frame, learn what you can do with the camera you have, sure if you can afford full frame then go for it, but all to often people think they NEED full frame when infact that dont know half the settings etc on crop.
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Very good point. :thumbs:
 
Philx1979 said:
so many people obsessed with full frame, learn what you can do with the camera you have, sure if you can afford full frame then go for it, but all to often people think they NEED full frame when infact that dont know half the settings etc on crop.
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I'm inclined to agree. I think that unless you need pro build, pro AF and pro weather sealing, the D700 is actually a downgrade from the D7000 in many respects.
 
drfrallyphotos said:
I'm looking to upgrade my Nikon D40x too, specialising in Sports Photography however, with a bit of Landscapes and Portraiture thrown in their too.

What camera would be best from my point of view?
Looked at the D300 as it was without the Full Frame sensor however I wasn't really convinced as it only has one focus point which is the middle?
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drfrallyphotos said:
Thanks for the heads up on that, I recently had a quick shot of one but could only find the setting to focus in the middle of the frame which isn't helpful for some of the Photojournalism work I do. I must have overlooked the setting change.
Thanks.
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Brilliant! specialises in sports photography, portraiture and photojournalism but doesn`t know how to change or if even a camera has more than 1 focus point.:bonk:
 
err... yes... which I mentioned.

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Soda Farl said:
Very good point. :thumbs:
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Pookeyhead said:
I'm inclined to agree. I think that unless you need pro build, pro AF and pro weather sealing, the D700 is actually a downgrade from the D7000 in many respects.
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I too have been a guilty party to wanting a full frame, but i often look at pictures of flickr that have been taken on d90`s and d3100`s that have blown me away and have made people who shoot with full frame look pants, so i know its nothing to be gained for me, i need to concentrate on what i have.

Another thing that i noticed the other day aswell, is a guy who uses full frame he often shoots in black white and uses photoshop actions in his actions he applies a `grain` effect to his photos, while i use a d90 often, the picture is `noisy` at high isos, so simples i convert to black and white apply a little tweak here and there and i get some very nice black and white images with the so called arty `grain effect` :)

i have now fallen back in love with the D90 again and when i shoot with it at high iso i shoot with the black and white final image in mind.

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Philx1979 said:
Brilliant! specialises in sports photography, portraiture and photojournalism but doesn`t know how to change or if even a camera has more than 1 focus point.:bonk:
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People can aspire to do things without being a know-it-all? So what if he doesn't know much about the equipment....No need to slag the guy off to his (virtual) face.....
 
Pookeyhead said:
It can't do everything anyone could want and more. And if you stop behaving like a child, you'll realise that IS a fact, yes.
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But nothing can so why bother telling us the obvious, surely some responsibility must lie with the OP (where is he anyway) if people are to offer any sort of advice surely he should come back and answer some of the questions aimed at him were not ****ing mind readers.
 
Pookeyhead said:
I'm inclined to agree. I think that unless you need pro build, pro AF and pro weather sealing, the D700 is actually a downgrade from the D7000 in many respects.
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You were proved so wrong in that respect on another thread by people who had "upgraded" from a D7000 to a D700 that you never came back to it

Now im not saying that some will see it as a downgrade, just that those who had switched from one to another said it was deffo an upgrade, no one said the switch was a down grade, go figure.
 
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Pookeyhead said:
I think that unless you need pro build, pro AF and pro weather sealing, the D7000 is actually all you need and probably the better choice
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Now if you would have said that David i would have cuddled you and agreed 200% :thumbs:

Someone did say there was the FX fanboy thing going off and in some respect they were right, it really is down to an individuals choice and what he would use it for, if i weren't a semi pro sports shooter shooting under some woeful conditions theres no way i would be using the D3S if the D300/D7000 could do the same job and give the same results
 
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Gary Coyle said:
But nothing can so why bother telling us the obvious, surely some responsibility must lie with the OP (where is he anyway) if people are to offer any sort of advice surely he should come back and answer some of the questions aimed at him were not ****ing mind readers.
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No argument from me. I just can't be doing with "Buy this, it does everything you want" comments. Yep.. the OP should have given more info, but he may not realise we need more info. He may be a beginner, so it's not really all down to him. The beginners ask, and we, the ones who should know better, advise, not just automatically recommend what we ourselves own. If we need more info, then we ask for more info otherwise the advice we give may not be that helpful.

As for the other thread, I felt I was banging my head against a wall. I posted up two identical images taken in the same studio with the same lighting, one with a D700 and one with a D7000. The OP stated he was only really interested in image quality, yet again, people (mainly D700 owners) kept missing the point and going on about stuff the OP wasn't really concerned with.

It just seems to me the cardinal sin is to say anything negative about the D700. Now I'm branded as some sort of anti-D700 evangelist :)
 
Pookeyhead said:
It just seems to me the cardinal sin is to say anything negative about the D700. Now I'm branded as some sort of anti-D700 evangelist :)
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You're just the Devil incarante David :lol:, i understand where youre coming from, no seriously i do but i just rankles with me when people link to the ginger headed manaquin as some sort of definative test when its so not, we both know that it's totally different shooting out in the real world than in a bright evenly lit controlled studio, theres no way on earth anyone could "studioise" the shooting environments i have to work under, some weeks its ISO 200, 1/6000th, AWB at f/4, some weeks it's ISO 10,000, 1/500th f/2.8 with a custom WB and other weeks its everything inbetween and sometimes the lighting is so patchy it's auto ISO with a 3 stop difference from a subject in front of me to a subject near the corner flag.
 
So.........I wonder if the OP has now made his choice or whether he is sitting under the bridge.
 
Does the d600 have a ff sensor? If so, how come u can use dx lenses? I'm new to this so just cant get my head around this.
 
GalJulie said:
Does the d600 have a ff sensor? If so, how come u can use dx lenses? I'm new to this so just cant get my head around this.
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yes it does. Nikon DX lens still use the same mount but they only project an image onto the middle of the sensor. All Nikons FX cameras account for this b y switchig the camera into DX mode. Basically switching the outer bit of an FX sensor off. Hence why you can use DX lenses on FX cameras.
 
Thx Hugh. Why has there been so much talk about using dx lenses on d600 though? Surely the same applies to any ff? Or does the d600 have some feature that other ffs dont?
 
I think the same applies to any Nikon FF, not sure why its been talked about so much on the d600
 
GalJulie said:
Thx Hugh. Why has there been so much talk about using dx lenses on d600 though? Surely the same applies to any ff? Or does the d600 have some feature that other ffs dont?
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The D600 offers a 10.2 mp resolution in cropped mode whereas the D700 only offers 5mp or so. Therefore anyone upgrading but wanting to continue to use their DX glass as well as FX would be better off with the D600.
 
pmac said:
If you haven't used a pro body and got used to the size,layout and AF the d600 may be fine for you as it will be very similar to the d7000.

If you want the larger size better AF, weather sealing then get a d700 or 800.

The d700 is a great all round camera and is still a high performer and highly praised,even though its getting on now.
If you have the HD space and a computer thats fast,the d800 is a great camera.
Ive owned both the d700 and 800. If money wasn't an issue I would go d800 every time for what I shoot, but the d700 is no slouch.
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Thanks for the advice
 
New to this said:
mainly birds but pretty much everything
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The answer I gave you it is factually correct and does not apply just to birds it applies to anything you photograph.The question is about frame size nothing else, FF v CS. Not different cameras and other features that are not related to frame size. I have d3s and it is pointless using it unless there is poor light.Some full frame users just will not accept it.That's up to them.After all they have spent a lot of money on a camera so er it must be the best(what ever that is):shake:
 
Gary Coyle said:
Hes not even been logged in since he posted this, timewaster. :lol::lol:
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Well gary a time waster i am not i am sorry i have not sat and waited at my laptop for your insight in to the world of upgrading my camera body but due to work commitments and my family i have not had the time to log on and answer all your questions. i did not realise there was a time limit for that i am really sorry.

i have read all the replys to my thread and will prob go for the D800 or even a D3x but still unsure.

There has been some really good advice given but sadly some crap with mature adults behaving like children. take of that what you will.

thank you for your words of wisdom

Rob
 
kestral said:
The answer I gave you it is factually correct and does not apply just to birds it applies to anything you photograph.The question is about frame size nothing else, FF v CS. Not different cameras and other features that are not related to frame size. I have d3s and it is pointless using it unless there is poor light.Some full frame users just will not accept it.That's up to them.After all they have spent a lot of money on a camera so er it must be the best(what ever that is):shake:
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Thanks for the advice you have given may go for the D3x but prob will go for the D800.
i have read all the replies to my thread with interest, sad tosee some of the rubbish that has gone on in reply to a simple question. but thanks for the senseible reply.
Cheers Rob
 
I must add that i have got good glass the main lens i have is a nikon nikor 400mm 2.8 vr i know i will have to upgrade some of my smaller lenses but happy to do so.

have just ordered an macbook pro laptop that would be more than man enough to deal with the file size.

Thanks again for the replies
 
New to this said:
Well gary a time waster i am not i am sorry i have not sat and waited at my laptop for your insight in to the world of upgrading my camera body but due to work commitments and my family i have not had the time to log on and answer all your questions. i did not realise there was a time limit for that i am really sorry.

i have read all the replys to my thread and will prob go for the D800 or even a D3x but still unsure.

There has been some really good advice given but sadly some crap with mature adults behaving like children. take of that what you will.

thank you for your words of wisdom

Rob
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So you chose to ignore the smilies then, good on ya.
 
New to this said:
There has been some really good advice given but sadly some crap with mature adults behaving like children. take of that what you will.
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Sad but true, and always the same names causing it.

I swear some just come on at times to boost their post count. Why? I've no idea.
 
Graham Thx for into re mp when using dx lenses on ff bodies. Didn't realise that there would have been a difference from camera to camera. My excuse is I'm new to all this!!
 
kestral said:
The answer I gave you it is factually correct and does not apply just to birds it applies to anything you photograph.The question is about frame size nothing else, FF v CS. Not different cameras and other features that are not related to frame size. I have d3s and it is pointless using it unless there is poor light.Some full frame users just will not accept it.That's up to them.After all they have spent a lot of money on a camera so er it must be the best(what ever that is):shake:
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Seriously? That may be true from your perspective, but yet again you appear to wish to make wide ranging and wrong ( for most of us) statements. Why?
 
TBH I'm surprised that the OP came back to this thread at all with some of the bickering and digs going on in here.

I've just given out one suspension for the posts in here so can everybody else please try to keep it civil and constructive - nothing wrong with differing opinions and discussion, but it's starting to look like a school playground.

I was going to clean things up but frankly I can't face trawling through it all again . . . besides my dad's bigger than all your dads put together so play nicely please.
 
SarahLee said:
TBH I'm surprised that the OP came back to this thread at all with some of the bickering and digs going on in here.

I've just given out one suspension for the posts in here so can everybody else please try to keep it civil and constructive - nothing wrong with differing opinions and discussion, but it's starting to look like a school playground.

I was going to clean things up but frankly I can't face trawling through it all again . . . besides my dad's bigger than all your dads put together so play nicely please.
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Thank you Sarah it needed to be said. I asked a question did not expect the response i got
Thanks again Rob
 
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