Which Nikon Full Frame would i go for

Moreorless said:
To be fair he seems to be commenting from a bird shooting perspective where FF may indeed be of limated benefit but that obviously does not apply to all use.
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That fair enough, but the simple 'from my perspective' or 'for birding' would of clarified an awful lot of whats said
 
Regardless, doesen't it hack you off when someone posts looking for advice and then never comes back to the topic
 
scottthehat said:
the d700 is a great camera and will do all you want and more,
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This is why threads like this are pointless. The OP didn't even state what he wanted the camera for, yet you get replies like the above.

What if he wants video? What if resolution is important to him? What if weight is an issue? Some people may be bothered by a 95% finder?

You can't just say "Get the D700 because it will do all you want and more" because it patently may well not. Some people may not want a nearly 5 year old 12MP camera.. no matter how great it is.
 
Pookeyhead said:
This is why threads like this are pointless. The OP didn't even state what he wanted the camera for, yet you get replies like the above.

What if he wants video? What if resolution is important to him? What if weight is an issue? Some people may be bothered by a 95% finder?

You can't just say "Get the D700 because it will do all you want and more" because it patently may well not. Some people may not want a nearly 5 year old 12MP camera.. no matter how great it is.
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Yawn..........
 
Oh yeah.. I forgot your not allowed to have an opinion in here... not one that's a minority anyway.

I'm sorry, you can't advise someone to get a D700 "because it will do everything you want it to and more" when you don't know what the OP even wants! The D700 doesn't even do everything everyone could want for a start.

What's your problem with that?

It seems logic has no place in this forum.

Ok.. buy a D700... they're the best camera ever.... be like us... usss..... one of us... one of us....


:)
 
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Then have a go at the OP and not the people who are trying to help with the limited information supplied or should we just not bother and tell anyone who asks for advice to p1ss off.

You are soccersnapper and i claim my £5

Pookeyhead said:
Oh yeah.. I forgot your not allowed to have an opinion in here... not one that's a minority anyway.

I'm sorry, you can't advise someone to get a D700 "because it will do everything you want it to and more" when you don't know what the OP even wants! The D700 doesn't even do everything everyone could want for a start.

What's your problem with that?

It seems logic has no place in this forum.

Ok.. buy a D700... they're the best camera ever.... be like us... usss..... one of us... one of us....


:)
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You'd think that a DX sensor was a bad thing going by the negative comments from the FX fanbo.. err, FX advocates ;)
 
I dont think thats really the case Pat, well not with all of us, i use full frame D3S's but would love a DX camera (mainly for the reach) which was as tough and as fast to focus and as good at high ISO, im hoping the rumoured D400 is a good compromise, if so it's definatly something i'd consider.
 
Gary Coyle said:
I dont think thats really the case Pat, well not with all of us, i use full frame D3S's but would love a DX camera (mainly for the reach) which was as tough and as fast to focus and as good at high ISO, im hoping the rumoured D400 is a good compromise, if so it's definatly something i'd consider.
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I know, I'm have a bit of fun ;)

However, I've been saying for a lomg time that in an ideal world, Nikon would have continued a DX pro line (a'la D2x) alongside an equivalent FX body in a similar vien to canon with the fF and APS-H sensor sizes (albeit the difference between them was smaller). Alas, it's not going to happen and I honestly think that the slow response to that from Nikon - the lack of a D300s upgrade - has driven many folk unesseccarily into FX bodies.

Yes, there are always the upgraders who'll change for the sake of it, and likewise there will always be the techy people who understand the entire set of benefits and buy into the technology regardless of whether they need it or not. But there are probably a lot of people who were tempted by the low(ish) price of the D700 compared to the D3, who dipped their toes into FX when, again in an ideal world, if Nikon had upgraded the D300s they would have stayed with that sensor format. That I think has sealed DX's fate to be a consumer grade-only sensor format, which is a shame because of the obvious benefits; lower cost, better reach, more compact bodies....
 
specialman said:
You'd think that a DX sensor was a bad thing going by the negative comments from the FX fanbo.. err, FX advocates ;)
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It's in no way a bad thing, FX just happens to be better. I have both. And I also have a teensy "advanced compact" [RX100] on the way. But ask me which I will save first in a fire ... and not just because of the expense.
 
Cagey75 said:
It's in no way a bad thing, FX just happens to be better. I have both. And I also have a teensy "advanced compact" [RX100] on the way. But ask me which I will save first in a fire ... and not just because of the expense.
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Better is relative.

For me, FX isn't the ideal option because A) it costs more for the bodies and B), more for the lenses to get the same FoV as on DX. What I get from my D7000 is fine and it comes in at a price I can swallow, factors that can't be overlooked.
 
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Phil Young said:
Not really. The RAW is never going to be DX crop.
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Not sure what you mean? But the raw in crop mode is always just the 15 or so mp.
 
boyfalldown said:
Not sure what you mean? But the raw in crop mode is always just the 15 or so mp.
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So Hugh, in your opinion, the D800 has the ability to replace both the D700 and the D300?

Taking into account the D800 ability to shoot 15 meg in DX mode and ignoring the FPS on this occasion.
 
fracster said:
So Hugh, in your opinion, the D800 has the ability to replace both the D700 and the D300?

Taking into account the D800 ability to shoot 15 meg in DX mode and ignoring the FPS on this occasion.
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TBH I'd never really thought of it like that, but ignoring FPS as you say, (and as FPS increases slightly in DX mode. I think to 6FPS) then I guess you could say that
 
boyfalldown said:
about 20mb, 14bit lossless compressed
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In light of this new information I change my vote to the D800!

I wouldn't shoot 14bit anyway due to not seeing a difference so that would bring it to around 15mb.

My only concerns with the D800 is the file size which leads onto the buffer clearing.
 
Gary Coyle said:
Then have a go at the OP and not the people who are trying to help with the limited information supplied or should we just not bother and tell anyone who asks for advice to p1ss off.
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Of course not Gary... but wouldn't it be better to refrain from making recommendations until we know what the OP requires, or better still reply with "What do you need your camera to do"?

I fail to see how else any of this is useful advice. If he needs 1080P on his camera then the D700 will NOT do "everything you want and more" will it? If he needs a 100% finder it won't either. If he requires very large prints, then it fails again.

Threads like this just end up with people recommending their own cameras like fanboys. People can't be objective it seems. Any slight on their camera is a personal insult. Very childish.
 
boyfalldown said:
TBH I'd never really thought of it like that, but ignoring FPS as you say, (and as FPS increases slightly in DX mode. I think to 6FPS) then I guess you could say that
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Thanks Hugh, next question,if you don`t mind?

I have read of the D800 needing top notch glass, I pretty much only use a 300 F4,70-200 VR2 and a AFS2 500 F4 along with 1.4 and 1.7 tcs. Can you envisage these lenses not being of sufficient quality to maximise the D800s abilities?

For mid range stuff I now only have the 28-300, but could be persuaded to splash out on something better if needs be.
 
fracster said:
Thanks Hugh, next question,if you don`t mind?

I have read of the D800 needing top notch glass, I pretty much only use a 300 F4,70-200 VR2 and a AFS2 500 F4 along with 1.4 and 1.7 tcs. Can you envisage these lenses not being of sufficient quality to maximise the D800s abilities?

For mid range stuff I now only have the 28-300, but could be persuaded to splash out on something better if needs be.
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I don't know TBH, I've only ever used the 70-200vr2 from those (and never used that with a d800) and I can't see any problems with that lens, but I'm not the person to answer that
 
Thanks Hugh, appreciate your honesty.
 
Pookeyhead said:
Of course not Gary... but wouldn't it be better to refrain from making recommendations until we know what the OP requires, or better still reply with "What do you need your camera to do"?

I fail to see how else any of this is useful advice. If he needs 1080P on his camera then the D700 will NOT do "everything you want and more" will it? If he needs a 100% finder it won't either. If he requires very large prints, then it fails again.

Threads like this just end up with people recommending their own cameras like fanboys. People can't be objective it seems. Any slight on their camera is a personal insult. Very childish.
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I find this happens too so I do understand the frustration.
 
Phil Young said:
I find this happens too so I do understand the frustration.
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It makes you think twice before saying anything for fear of inciting the wrath of certain camera owners. frustrating indeed.
 
Pookeyhead said:
Of course not Gary... but wouldn't it be better to refrain from making recommendations until we know what the OP requires, or better still reply with "What do you need your camera to do"?

I fail to see how else any of this is useful advice. If he needs 1080P on his camera then the D700 will NOT do "everything you want and more" will it? If he needs a 100% finder it won't either. If he requires very large prints, then it fails again.

Threads like this just end up with people recommending their own cameras like fanboys. People can't be objective it seems. Any slight on their camera is a personal insult. Very childish.
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Untrue.....
 
Soda Farl said:
No I didn't Phil have a look at this guys other posts in the other thread about basically the same thing.
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I don't know what the other thread is but perhaps a bit unfair to belittle in this one??

I thought the reply was a very good one with all valid points...
 
Any chance you lot can arrange a meet and sort your constant spats out in person, rather than spoiling decent threads..............:)
 
Soda Farl said:
No I didn't Phil have a look at this guys other posts in the other thread about basically the same thing.
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Oh look... the usual suspects going out of their way to trash my posts. :bang:

Unless you can find a post of mine saying that the D700 is the best camera in the world and will do everything you could possibly want or imagine, can I suggest you're talking nonsense? If you are referring to posts where I have praised the D700... then yes, you'll find quite a few, as it is a fantastic camera. I even said so in this thread. However, it will not do "everything you want and more".

I fail to see how you can argue with that. It can't... it just can't. Fact.

fracster said:
Any chance you lot can arrange a meet and sort your constant spats out in person, rather than spoiling decent threads..............:)
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If only I could.. if only I could.
 
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Pookeyhead said:
Oh look... the usual suspects going out of their way to trash my posts. :bang:

Unless you can find a post of mine saying that the D700 is the best camera in the world and will do everything you could possibly want or imagine, can I suggest you're talking nonsense? If you are referring to posts where I have praised the D700... then yes, you'll find quite a few, as it is a fantastic camera. I even said so in this thread. However, it will not do "everything you want and more".

I fail to see how you can argue with that. It can't... it just can't. Fact.



If only I could.. if only I could.
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:lol: Hello Mr. Benitez hows the Chelsea job going?
 
It can't do everything anyone could want and more. And if you stop behaving like a child, you'll realise that IS a fact, yes.
 
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