Which 1Dx to buy and why?

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So in the early hours of the morning I was relieved of all my toys when they broke into our house while we were sleeping…

My old faithful 1Ds Mk II and 5D 1 are now history.

So, as per thread title, and since I probably won’t find another good 1Ds II…

Which 1DX should I consider and why?

I shoot mostly landscapes commercially but a bit of everything really…

Thank you!

Oh, and also missing are 2 TPF branded Op-Tech(?) camera straps gifted to me by @RobertP when we met up with them in SA some years back…:mad::mad:
 
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Sorry to hear that.

Going forward any of 1dx will be an upgrade from 1ds ii, obviously with more features added with each generation.
5diii onwards also are great options
 
Sorry to hear that.

Going forward any of 1dx will be an upgrade from 1ds ii, obviously with more features added with each generation.
5diii onwards also are great options

Thank you.

I understand that the 1Ds II is OLD and that countless cheap entry level cameras are “better” but it was just such a good camera…even if only to me with my sentiment and very subjective take…

The next aspect is the insurance fight I am anticipating because of the difference in values between 1DsII and 1DX MkX
 
I found the ii to be a massive step up from the 1dx. The dynamic range, AF and low light performance were all vastly improved imo. That said, if you don't need these things, the 1dx is still an excellent camera.

Ironically the original 1DX (Mk1) would build on the highly sentimental flavour I had on the 1DsII.

5D1 bodies still come through from time to time and that would then be my 4th one…

Any recommendations on any specific 5D model for landscaping?

I mean I like the idea of the 5DsR’s megaresolution at 50+ Mp and I know I don’t need it but well…

What worries me about the 5DsR is that I read a few fairly unfavourable reviews but I would prefer to do my own tests…
 
I understand that the 1Ds II is OLD and that countless cheap entry level cameras are “better” but it was just such a good camera…even if only to me with my sentiment and very subjective take…
I had mkII so can relate to it and the IQ. It was remarkably good for the day and stands up to scrutiny making some larger prints; if anything denoise would clean it up really well.

The original 1DX replaced both 1DSIII and 1DIV in one go and essentially better them both in every single metric. And in fact so did 5D mkIII minus the build quality and FPS. I would be very sceptical about claims than any lesser grade camera can compete directly but any of these and their successors are 100% safe bets, obviously subject to wear and tear.
 
Any recommendations on any specific 5D model for landscaping?

I mean I like the idea of the 5DsR’s megaresolution at 50+ Mp and I know I don’t need it but well…

What worries me about the 5DsR is that I read a few fairly unfavourable reviews but I would prefer to do my own tests…
Depends on your shooting preferences and budget really.

5D mkIV is probably the best of the lot, and the best allrounder. IT is by far the most expensive too. 30MP is about the sweetspot resolution, few lenses will resolve more outside of centre.

5D III. Totally fine, and IQ is rather close to R6 from what I've seen noise-wise (R6 is half a stop better and that's with nearly decade R&D). MP count is lower, but it is still fine. Remember 1DSIII had same and was regarded as top of the line. For landscape work it absolutely needs magic lantern so you can bracket and not worry about dynamic range. MK IV sadly does not have that luxury but you get better DR out of the box. Sadly most are now in terrible state, like the original 1DX and you really don't want one with the latest firmware as that shuts the door on ML.

So far both can be regarded as nice allrounders.

5Ds is a very specialist camera. It is ideal in studio conditions, for reproduction work and where super large prints are required. I own one and can describe it as higly rewarding but incredibly difficult to make the most of it. Major part of that comes from that fact 50MP will magnify any minor shake, lens flaw, focus error, subject movement, etc. So you have to choose your lenses, apertures and settings super carefully and ideally use tripod. That goes for all very high MP cameras so far. Unless you just don't care and treat it as 20-30MP camera with headroom; then it will just downsidze well and usually give sharper images than equivalent body. Now 5Ds specifics or negatives. 1) still no usable video res with AF. 2) noise is bloody through the roof, like its worse than 5dIII even after downsizing. You want to keep it to within ISO 320 if you like crystal clear images. 3) DR is clearly worse than 5DIII an no ML available so just bracket 5 frames or even 7. You may find most useful. Sony A7RIV with adapter is probably a better choice if you can afford the difference and put up with EVF and adapters.
For wedding 5DIII is far far better choice. Due to minor shake and slower fps your results will be roughly equal at best.
 
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1DX MK 2 is great camera, they are just heavy and a good one costs £1400+ although you can get cheaper ones with more wear and tear
 
I had mkII so can relate to it and the IQ. It was remarkably good for the day and stands up to scrutiny making some larger prints; if anything denoise would clean it up really well.

The original 1DX replaced both 1DSIII and 1DIV in one go and essentially better them both in every single metric. And in fact so did 5D mkIII minus the build quality and FPS. I would be very sceptical about claims than any lesser grade camera can compete directly but any of these and their successors are 100% safe bets, obviously subject to wear and tear.
Had the 5DIII but skipped the II…unfortunately.

I think the 5DII was a better package - for my needs at least - despite the video stuff which I have absolutely no need for or want…

It, the 5DIII, was OK but I think the II is a better deal than the III and I would not go with the 5DIII again unless I can get one at a ridiculously good price and even then I would hesitate…

Now if I could put the 1DsII sensor into a 5D1…
 
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Thanks so much for all the inputs folks.

I honestly don’t know WHAT I want short of the ability to time-travel 24hrs back and wait for these sods with enough backup magazines…

Also, what I really want is simply not available.

Yes, the insurance will be paying but the gear I had allowed me to do landscapes and a few other things…

Yes, landscapes are the only shoots that bring me some pocket money from time to time but I do not wish to lock into an absolute landscapes-only system.

I guess even if I get a brand new 1DX III I will still miss my 1DsII…
 
5DM4 is good for landscape. 1DXM2 is a great all rounder.
 
Had the 5DIII but skipped the II…unfortunately.
II was pretty much rubbish. No weatherseal, crap AF and much worse sensor. I bought 1Ds II instead of that.
It was OK but I think the II is a better deal than the III and I would not go with the 5DIII again unless I can get one at a ridiculously good price and even then I would hesitate…
Sounds like you want a bargain basement or 1DXII or perhaps III at the very least then. 1DX is nearly identical to 5DIII in many aspects.
Now if I could put the 1DsII sensor into a 5D1…
Now it just makes zero sense. Good luck. It will be cheap at least.
 
II was pretty much rubbish.
The 5DII or III?
No weatherseal, crap AF and much worse sensor. I bought 1Ds II instead of that.

Sounds like you want a bargain basement or 1DXII or perhaps III at the very least then. 1DX is nearly identical to 5DIII in many aspects.
Well that is a definite lean towards the 1DX II then. Maybe I fell for the marketing hype back in 2012 but I was less than impressed with my 5DIII to say the least…
Now it just makes zero sense. Good luck. It will be cheap at least.
 
I have the 1dx (x2) and the 1dx2 and the 1dx3

For what you shoot I am surprised you are going for the 1dx although it is a l progresion from the 1ds and the same family

The difference between each one is mostly the better ISO capabilities... and a BIG change (if you ned it) in the 1dx2 onwards is the anti flickr.. all in all there is a good leap from 1dx to a mkii so if thats what you want go for mk2 IMHO

But for what you shoot? i would certainly consider the other options others have posted
 
I have the 1dx (x2) and the 1dx2 and the 1dx3

For what you shoot I am surprised you are going for the 1dx although it is a l progresion from the 1ds and the same family

The difference between each one is mostly the better ISO capabilities... and a BIG change (if you ned it) in the 1dx2 onwards is the anti flickr.. all in all there is a good leap from 1dx to a mkii so if thats what you want go for mk2 IMHO

But for what you shoot? i would certainly consider the other options others have posted
Hello Kipax

Thanks for that, you hit the nail centre on the head…

I am seriously doubting a need for a new 1DX of whatever variant but I though since the insurance is paying…

Things, insurance-wise, are looking very good but the money is not in the bank yet…

My 1DsII was a lovely camera as old as it is but the SENTIMENT around that camera, which I have had since 2008, can never be replaced.

There are some nice-looking 1DsII on eBay…

As far as replacing, and forgetting sentiment, I am considering a 5DsR and 5D4.
 
I have the 1dx (x2) and the 1dx2 and the 1dx3

For what you shoot I am surprised you are going for the 1dx although it is a l progresion from the 1ds and the same family

The difference between each one is mostly the better ISO capabilities... and a BIG change (if you ned it) in the 1dx2 onwards is the anti flickr.. all in all there is a good leap from 1dx to a mkii so if thats what you want go for mk2 IMHO

But for what you shoot? i would certainly consider the other options others have posted


Exactly my reasoning for suggesting a 5DIV.

Other than that the 1DxII and approximately the same price would be the most logical option.
 
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