What happened to the word "photograph"

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With my cameras I create photographs. Why has the word "image" taken over? If it's a laziness thing then what about "photo?"

Does "image" sound a bit more sexy? A bit more trendy?

Or am I just a grumpy old man today :D
 
I agree, I tend to say image as not all my shots are actually printed.
 
Just thinking......

Could be to do with the different technologies at work?

A photograph being created by light falling on film and then being printed using chemicals, light and voodoo.

Wheras as an "Image" is more a likeness created by electrical impulses. Could this also reflect that in most cases a digital image is open to more manipulation than a photograph? Eg cloning out undesirable elements adding bits here and there?

In which case would an airbrushed photograph count as an image (as it's been manipulated) or would it still be a photograph or both?

Now I'm more confused. Think I should lie down for a bit.
 
It got binned once we stopped "writing with light" and doing it digitally?

To me an image is a photo that's had some serious Photoshopping done to it.........:shrug:
 
Greenninja said:
Just thinking......

Could be to do with the different technologies at work?

A photograph being created by light falling on film and then being printed using chemicals, light and voodoo.

Wheras as an "Image" is more a likeness created by electrical impulses. Could this also reflect that in most cases a digital image is open to more manipulation than a photograph? Eg cloning out undesirable elements adding bits here and there?

In which case would an airbrushed photograph count as an image (as it's been manipulated) or would it still be a photograph or both?

Now I'm more confused. Think I should lie down for a bit.
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I don't think that's far off..
I feel a photograph is a reasonably accurate representation of what was there, a copy of a scene with artistic licence.
An image is a picture made from a scene that may or may not exist, accuracy is irrelevant.
The difference between fact and fiction maybe ?
I don't feel airbrushing and/or cloning alone throws a photograph in to the image corner, but I think there is a difference between a photograph and an image.
 
ryanyboy said:
With my cameras I create photographs. Why has the word "image" taken over? If it's a laziness thing then what about "photo?"
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I agree! I always use photo. I don't like using image, pic, picture, etc. It's just not right!!!
Photo/photograph sounds beautiful to me! The others don't give me any....feeling or emotion? If that makes sense.
 
Greenninja said:
Could be to do with the different technologies at work?
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Photograph actually means "drawing with light". So, it'd still be a photograph regardless of whether the light falls on film or a sensor.

Negative film, slide film, digital image, they're the medium on which that drawing is captured.

Does a painting cease to be a painting just because the artist calls it "a water colour" or "a canvas"? No, this is no different.
 
I'm lazy and use pic to describe the "image" from click to whirr (exiting the printer). I'll sometimes use image but would agree that it can sound a little pretentious.
 
To me an image is.. well, any image - photographs, drawings, computer drawings, water colours, stone carvings.

A photograph is any picture, digital or otherwise that what taken with a camera. Though overly 'shopped etc I'd not count (I don't mean levels, I mean a smurf being humped by a dog)
 
Recommend anything by Patrick Maynard on photographic technologies for in-depth discussion of what constitutes a photo. </philosophy>
 
When describing my wedding packages I feel its wrong to describe as photographs so describe them as images despite me still being a Photographer !

it could be a hard copy print vs digital image thing...

Al'
 
If they are images are we then imagers rather than photographers...
 
"I had great fun taking some images with my camera this morning!"

Doesn't quite have the same ring to it!
 
When describing my wedding packages I feel its wrong to describe as photographs so describe them as images despite me still being a Photographer !

it could be a hard copy print vs digital image thing...

Al'
 
Well, technically the definition of photograph is an image or picture created by light falling against a light sensitive surface. So both image and photograph are technically correct. As is picture. Lots of people say "taking pictures". Photograph is just a bit more specific. So stop being a grumpy b****r and go take some images, INNIT!!!
 
so if its an 'image' rather than a 'photograph' does that make it 'imagery' rather than 'photography'!?! ;) lol


edit; lol sorry jus noticed another post saying pretty much the same thing, and there was me trying to be original! lol
 
ryanyboy said:
With my cameras I create photographs. Why has the word "image" taken over? If it's a laziness thing then what about "photo?"

Does "image" sound a bit more sexy? A bit more trendy?

Or am I just a grumpy old man today :D
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Hiya 'grumpy old man', think you have set the fires alight here :D Will be interested to see what people come up with in response to this thread.

Kerioak said:
It depends how often I am writing it in a sentence as I try not to use the same word too many times, so use variations of it.
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My sentiments exact! I also don't like to over-use one word in the same sentance, paragraph .... whatever the case.

I'm also selective as to the choice of word, i.e., I wouldn't say I shot some lions (that would be cruel).

Some people have mentioned other words used, i.e., snap, pic, image, photo etc. Hey I think it is all a matter of preference and whether one is trying to make a subject or topic jovial or serious.

Whatever the word used, I'm sure we all understand what is meant.

Happy photography, snapping, pic'ing, imaging, shooting ...... the list goes on :lol:


D :)
 
For me it comes from the web. If it's on the web then it's an image, it's simply the vocabulary of the web. If you hold it in your hand it's a photograph.
 
It doesn't really matter what it's called. Unless you still refer to your car as your automobile. :)
 
I'd say it comes from the digital age where a photograph taken and stored on a digital file on a computer is called an "image file".
It'd be odd to call a jpeg or a tiff (tagged IMAGE file format) a "photograph file".

I think if it's printed, it's a photo.
 
Kaouthia said:
It doesn't really matter what it's called. Unless you still refer to your car as your automobile. :)
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:lol: trust you to come up with that analogy :p
 
pinktrainers said:
Recommend anything by Patrick Maynard on photographic technologies for in-depth discussion of what constitutes a photo. </philosophy>
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Jeez, that's deep!! :thinking: :D
 
I wouldn't want to disappoint now Dawn. :)
 
beercan said:
I'd say it comes from the digital age where a photograph taken and stored on a digital file on a computer is called an "image file". It'd be odd to call a jpeg or a tiff (tagged IMAGE file format) a "photograph file".
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Actually, not according to Adobe - and I think we can probably use them as definers of the process.

In Lightroom you "import photos", not "import images".

However, Nikon seem to use the word "pictures" or "exposures" in their product manuals but equally refer to their camera range as "imaging products" :thinking:
 
Has anybody thought to contact Nikon, Canon, Sony, etc. to find out whether their particular brand of cameras take photographs or record images? :)
 
littlemonster said:
A photograph is any picture, digital or otherwise that what taken with a camera. Though overly 'shopped etc I'd not count (I don't mean levels, I mean a smurf being humped by a dog)
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I'd kinda like to explore the thought that a key everyday PS action outside of levels could involve smurf dog sex.....and if it were smurf dog sex but "converted to mono", could anybody tell it wasn't two shopped consenting dogs doing what comes natural in the privacy of their own bit of wasteland.
I mean more than once I've caught myself not recognising smurfs in various states of undress when they are pictured in B/W, it seems if it looks ok, who's to know ??

except the smurf....

who doubtless enjoys the attention..



:)
 
desantnik said:
Actually, not according to Adobe - and I think we can probably use them as definers of the process.

In Lightroom you "import photos", not "import images".
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But in Photoshop you edit, manipulate and adjust "images". :thinking:
 
joxby said:
I'd kinda like to explore the thought that a key everyday PS action outside of levels could involve smurf dog sex.....and if it were smurf dog sex but "converted to mono", could anybody tell it wasn't two shopped consenting dogs doing what comes natural in the privacy of their own bit of wasteland.
I mean more than once I've caught myself not recognising smurfs in various states of undress when they are pictured in B/W, it seems if it looks ok, who's to know ??

except the smurf....

who doubtless enjoys the attention..



:)
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I want some of what you are on! Please share :lol:
 
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