Water cooling my new PC

Clear cmos. Restart, check all cables .disconnect drives.
Try one memory stick.
 
I will be sealing parts in mine tomorrow... not looking forward on emptying loop from water...have to switch cpu block from amd to Intel fitting.
 
bastic said:
Clear cmos. Restart, check all cables .disconnect drives.
Try one memory stick.
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have you got all the slots occupied, it may be a case of setting the RAM manually in the BIOS, your motherboard manual will explain all

:)
 
Ok I've just been building everything into the case. Left only 1 stick of ram in and still nothing displayed.
 
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Just found out how to clear CMOS. Still no luck :( hellllpppp
 
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Have you tried to get it to post on screen without the graphics card in situ? I.E. using on board graphics only
 
stupar said:
Have you tried to get it to post on screen without the graphics card in situ? I.E. using on board graphics only
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You mean have the monitor cable plugged in, the power to video card plugged in but no video card in slot?
 
Unplug power from video card and remove card from pci-e slot.
Then plug monitor cable into appropriate slot on motherboard outputs.

You may have to clear the come again to reset the BIOS.
 
:/ there isn't a socket for a VGA cable on the motherboard.

Or am I being stupid :s
 
Ah sorry I should have remembered that, yes there is no video out on the MB.
So does your screen show anything at all?
Does your motherboard give you any posting beeps that you can check?
What make is your graphics card
 
Shows nothing atall.
No beeps.
NVIDIA not sure on model :/
 
No, you're not being stupid... there is no onboard gfx on the P8P67! You need to figure out how far it's getting in PSOT. The manual will tell you that...
 
The fan is spinning on the video card so it's powered. But no display...
I believe model is GeForce 8600GTS 256mb PCIe
 
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I'd strip it down completely and start again, inc the CPU. Probably omething silly, starting again may pinpoint.

Does the CPU fan spin at the moment? Does it stay on or come on then go off then come on etc?
 
Won't be home again until this evening but I think that might be the best idea.

The CPU fan spins and stays on.
As do all the case fans and video card.
I removed the CPU last night, all the pins look fine. I'll put it in again tonight and reapply thermal paste.

Could it be an error with the video card, even though it powers?

It used to play up sometimes in my current system when booting up. Diagnostic lights said it was the video card. Reset pc and it worked fine.
 
I know it sounds daft but have you checked the display is recieving power and switched on ?
 
big soft moose said:
I know it sounds daft but have you checked the display is recieving power and switched on ?
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I have indeed. The orange standby light is on
 
Grr just rebuilt it all again and no change! Getting annoyed and worried now...

Does it matter which slot I put the ram in?
 
Ben: said:
Grr just rebuilt it all again and no change! Getting annoyed and worried now...

Does it matter which slot I put the ram in?
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it does. look in to manual
 
Ben: said:
Won't be home again until this evening but I think that might be the best idea.

The CPU fan spins and stays on.
As do all the case fans and video card.
I removed the CPU last night, all the pins look fine. I'll put it in again tonight and reapply thermal paste.

Could it be an error with the video card, even though it powers?

It used to play up sometimes in my current system when booting up. Diagnostic lights said it was the video card. Reset pc and it worked fine.
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You could have a duff graphics card, be careful it doesn't damage your motherboard.

Try powering up the motherboard without the graphics card, just to see if it beeps :)
 
Also you could have a duff monitor ! - have you tried connecting it to another machine to check it works
 
Rob 80386 said:
You could have a duff graphics card, be careful it doesn't damage your motherboard.

Try powering up the motherboard without the graphics card, just to see if it beeps :)
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The asus don't beep at successful post, least my p8p67-m pro doesn't
 
Found the problem! :D
It was the graphics card!
Tried another one from my dads pc and it's works! Woo!!
Thanks for all your help guys! And yes the motherboard doesn't beep.

Although its gone a little off topic... Can you recommend me a new graphics card? Hadn't intended on ANY gaming but I am now... So something that can handle some of the latest games? Budget- low as possible lol
 
Ben: said:
Found the problem! :D
It was the graphics card!
Tried another one from my dads pc and it's works! Woo!!
Thanks for all your help guys! And yes the motherboard doesn't beep.

Although its gone a little off topic... Can you recommend me a new graphics card? Hadn't intended on ANY gaming but I am now... So something that can handle some of the latest games? Budget- low as possible lol
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5770 second hand for 70 quid ish? Plays mw3 on reasonable settings.
 
Ok after some thought, it's pointless building a high spec pc and then putting an 'ok' graphics card in.

So firstly, does any one here use their custom build for gaming?
What gpu do you use/reccomend?

The aim is to get one that can play BF3 on high/ultra settings.
I'll try and stretch the budget if the card is worth it.

Please help :)


- This seems good, great price too http://www.ebuyer.com/254405-asus-g...dvi-mini-hdmi-pci-e-engtx560-ti-dcii-2di-1gd5
 
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Ben: said:
Ok after some thought, it's pointless building a high spec pc and then putting an 'ok' graphics card in.

So firstly, does any one here use their custom build for gaming?
What gpu do you use/reccomend?

The aim is to get one that can play BF3 on high/ultra settings.
I'll try and stretch the budget if the card is worth it.

Please help :)

- This seems good, great price too http://www.ebuyer.com/254405-asus-gtx-560ti-directcu-ii-1gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-mini-hdmi-pci-e-engtx560-ti-dcii-2di-1gd5
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Kinda, run the odd game. Last one being mw3.

I run crossfired 5770, works well for me.
 
piggin said:
The new AMD 7950 is being released this week so prices of graphics cards should drop.
A lot of people are selling their nVidia 580's for £250 - £280 second hand @ the moment on different forums.

There are lots of builds on OCuk forum that can give you inspiration.

This is something I have been working on

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18184017
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That is amazing! :D Lovely build!

Whoops, I ordered the card eariler today :\ lol. Should be good enough though right?
Will be running 1680x1050 res.
 
Hey :) no I haven't, I shall in a while :D
:love:All those packages and fans! And that custom case :0

Yep hopefully it'll be ok. Did I read correctly that 30fps is the minimum really?
And yes I can always add another later :D
 
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So back to water cooling....to clarify, I'm looking to cool the CPU first using a 240mm rad and 2 fans in the top of the case.
If I wanted to cool the GPU at a later date could I safely add it to that ^ loop without the need for another rad?
 
Ben, I would just have the CPU in your loop.
If you intend adding the GPU later, you could have problems.
The GPU that you have purchased is a non reference version, so no full face water block is manufactured for it.
You would have to fit a block over the GPU chip & add extra RAM coolers to all the other parts of the PCB.
You would also have to add another rad & your pump will not produce enough pressure to pump the water around two block, two rads & all the pipework.
 
piggin said:
Ben, I would just have the CPU in your loop.
If you intend adding the GPU later, you could have problems.
The GPU that you have purchased is a non reference version, so no full face water block is manufactured for it.
You would have to fit a block over the GPU chip & add extra RAM coolers to all the other parts of the PCB.
You would also have to add another rad & your pump will not produce enough pressure to pump the water around two block, two rads & all the pipework.
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Hey Paul thanks for taking the time to reply :)
I was considering a universal fit GPU cooler so I can reuse it in the future. (these are available aren't they?)
I could buy a better pump to start with. But if you think i'd need an extra rad and others bits for the video card then maybe its best to just stick with the CPU.
 
Some spec for CPU water cooling...

CPU Waterblock

Radiator

Fans x3 (any better/quieter you can recommend?)

Reservoir

Pump

Compression Fittings x8?

Tubing

How does this look? Anything I should change for better?

I heard about not contaminating metals by using 1 type for all parts, I've done this I think haven't I? lol

Decided on white tubing and I'll add a UV light in the case somewhere.
Like the look of compression fittings, and they're more secure it would seem.

Thanks for any advice :)
 
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Ben: said:
Hey Paul thanks for taking the time to reply :)
I was considering a universal fit GPU cooler so I can reuse it in the future. (these are available aren't they?)
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Yes, they can be fitted to other cards if you want.
You may find this useful

http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/

Click on the bottom right 'click to start'

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I could buy a better pump to start with. But if you think i'd need an extra rad and others bits for the video card then maybe its best to just stick with the CPU.
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You will need anther rad if you put the GPU into the loop.
As for the pump, I prefer a DDC pump with an after market top.
But that's just my opinion
 
Ben: said:
Some spec for CPU water cooling...

CPU Waterblock

Radiator

Fans x3 (any better/quieter you can recommend?)

Reservoir

Pump

Compression Fittings x8?

Tubing

How does this look? Anything I should change for better?

I heard about not contaminating metals by using 1 type for all parts, I've done this I think haven't I? lol

Decided on white tubing and I'll add a UV light in the case somewhere.
Like the look of compression fittings, and they're more secure it would seem.

Thanks for any advice :)
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You're ok as far as mixed metals are concerned as you have a copper block and a copper rad, it's only if you mix aluminium with copper you will have problems with galvanic corrosion



piggin said:
You will need anther rad if you put the GPU into the loop.
As for the pump, I prefer a DDC pump with an after market top.
But that's just my opinion
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I use a Swiftech, DDC with an EK acetal top, I used to have two, one for each loop, but one died, so I use one for both loops.


:)
 
Ben: said:
Some spec for CPU water cooling...

CPU Waterblock

Radiator

Fans x3 (any better/quieter you can recommend?)

Reservoir

Pump

Compression Fittings x8?

Tubing

How does this look? Anything I should change for better?

I heard about not contaminating metals by using 1 type for all parts, I've done this I think haven't I? lol

Decided on white tubing and I'll add a UV light in the case somewhere.
Like the look of compression fittings, and they're more secure it would seem.

Thanks for any advice :)
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There is nothing wrong with your selection but I would have

One of these for the CPU
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-125-EK&groupid=962&catid=1519&subcat=

Running one of these myself & I am very happy with it.
The plexi etc are all the same.

For a rad, if you have deep pockets then go with one of these
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-033-BX&groupid=962&catid=1523&subcat=

I have the 120.4 version & it does a great job.
If you can't justify that expense, go with the EK (just as good as any of the others)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-077-EK&groupid=962&catid=1523&subcat=1525

As for fans

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-014-SY
Everyone says that these are the daddy.

As for a pump, the DDC is one of the best

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-047-AC&groupid=962&catid=2141&subcat=

I would fit this top on the pump, as it acts as a res + it gets more out of the pump. Also covers a very small foot print.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-017-XS&groupid=962&catid=2133&subcat=

I like the EK compression fittings (not as expensive as bitspower but very good)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=962&catid=1529&subid=1778

I would use 7/16" tubing as its easier to bend.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=962&catid=1530&subid=1775

One box of 3.3mts is more than enough

As for the question about contamination.
The big problem is having aluminium in your loop, that a big no no.
Also do not use any die in the system as that can clog everything up.
I would stick with distilled water, a kill coil & coloured tubing.
 
Thanks for all that info!
I'm unfamiliar with 'tops' for pumps :/ could you please enlighten me? :p

And cooling for ram blocks on the card, is this a must?

(sorry for all the questions, this is all new to me)
 
piggin said:
As for a pump, the DDC is one of the best

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-047-AC&groupid=962&catid=2141&subcat=

I would fit this top on the pump, as it acts as a res + it gets more out of the pump. Also covers a very small foot print.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=WC-017-XS&groupid=962&catid=2133&subcat=
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Why not just use a bay res that accomodates a ddc pump

http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/cus...DC-Pump-Multi-Fascia--DDCBAYONE-pid-9974.html
 
Just so I understand... The pump Paul has suggested, goes with the XSPC top/reservoir, is that the only res I would need? Or another, bigger res aswell?
 
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