WAMT....what annoyed me today!

Jannyfox said:
What are mains water pipes made of? Genuine question as I don't know. Even if the pipes are flexible I imagine the fittings are not.
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Simple question, not so simple answer. The main distribution system appears to use mostly concrete in sand. Within new build estates and for most urban and suburban renewal, MDPE (a form of polythene) is now standard, with certain exceptions.

More than you probably want to know can be found here: https://www.anglianwater.co.uk/site...ter-supply-pipes-prior-to-connection-2019.pdf
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
Simple question, not so simple answer. The main distribution system appears to use mostly concrete in sand. Within new build estates and for most urban and suburban renewal, MDPE (a form of polythene) is now standard, with certain exceptions.

More than you probably want to know can be found here: https://www.anglianwater.co.uk/site...ter-supply-pipes-prior-to-connection-2019.pdf
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It was my understanding, possibly limited to some areas..... urban only(?) that the Victorian iron pipework is still in use today and that is oh so prone to fracturing in minor earth movements.

Hence, again AFAIK, the development of pipe lining technology that is less expensive to do than significant road digging to replace the pipes.
 
Box Brownie said:
Hence, again AFAIK, the development of pipe lining technology that is less expensive to do than significant road digging to replace the pipes.
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I think you're right.

What I should have said is that new main distribution pipes seem to be concrete. Perhaps they line those with a flexible material as well?

There's also a black flexible pipe, about 5 inch bore, with metal fittings. They were being used for something next to the river Clyst last year. From the look of the fittings, these may be temporary...

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AndrewFlannigan said:
I think you're right.

What I should have said is that new main distribution pipes seem to be concrete. Perhaps they line those with a flexible material as well?

There's also a black flexible pipe, about 5 inch bore, with metal fittings. They were being used for something next to the river Clyst last year. From the look of the fittings, these may be temporary...

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Those pictured IMO are emergency/temporary lines but I doubt they are to provide potable water supply to users or indeed anything in the upstream (post drinking water treatment) channel usage.
 
AndrewFlannigan said:
There's also a black flexible pipe, about 5 inch bore, with metal fittings. They were being used for something next to the river Clyst last year. From the look of the fittings, these may be temporary...
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They are suction hoses used for emptying cesspits, sewers, and more.
They are also used to discharge a tankers load, when it's full.

edited to add, it maybe totally innocent, as sometimes its necessary to suck clean water from flooded areas such as basements..
Been there done that ..
 
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Cobra said:
They are suction hoses used for emptying cesspits, sewers, and more.
They are also used to discharge a tankers load, when it's full.
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Plus for flood control situations i.e. 'pumping out'
 
Always something to learn around here! (y)
 
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River Clyst flood alert October 2021

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Bearing in mind the criticism that the Government and water companies received following the last major flooding on the Somerset levels a few years back........ perhaps 'they' were dropping equipment off in strategic places in the event of need?
 
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Box Brownie said:
PS there used to be some good done with Public Information Adverts.......but of late e.g. the new Highway Code change(s), water usage and now fire risk issues. There is silence by the Government....no we don't need a nanny state but as I say some good is done by telling folk what they should know already/by now!
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I remember Reginald Molehusband teaching us how to reverse into a parking space. I wasn't even old enough to drive then but still use the advice given to park even now (it's all a bit second nature now but it had to be learned once).
AndrewFlannigan said:
I think you're right.

What I should have said is that new main distribution pipes seem to be concrete. Perhaps they line those with a flexible material as well?

There's also a black flexible pipe, about 5 inch bore, with metal fittings. They were being used for something next to the river Clyst last year. From the look of the fittings, these may be temporary...

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As has been said, these are usually effluent pipes. I used to work at Slough sewage works and handled these on a daily basis. I kinda miss the smell now :oops: :$
 
I remember Yorkshire Water putting some kind of "resin" liner inside the old iron pipes (that were prone to cracking as they aged/rusted). We were told to flush the "new" pipe with plenty of water before drinking it!!!!! The old pipes joined up to lead in the houses, until "improvement" grants often allowed for "new" copper pipework to be installed!
 
WAMT? Being diagnosed with some grotty viral infection in my chest. I've had a cough for over 3 weeks, and a major loss of appetite for the last 2. This morning I coughed so much I was sick, and i've got no energy.

I'm now on antibiotics, and am waiting for a chest X-Ray to make sure it's nothing more serious.
 
Jelster said:
WAMT? Being diagnosed with some grotty viral infection in my chest. I've had a cough for over 3 weeks, and a major loss of appetite for the last 2. This morning I coughed so much I was sick, and i've got no energy.

I'm now on antibiotics, and am waiting for a chest X-Ray to make sure it's nothing more serious.
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Hopefully on the mend.

GWS
 
Jelster said:
WAMT? Being diagnosed with some grotty viral infection in my chest. I've had a cough for over 3 weeks, and a major loss of appetite for the last 2. This morning I coughed so much I was sick, and i've got no energy.

I'm now on antibiotics, and am waiting for a chest X-Ray to make sure it's nothing more serious.
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Not that I'm comparing, as yours sounds horrendous, but I had a bit of a sniffle the other days and did a COVID test to find that it was positive! Wife was at death's door over the last two days with it but is feeling a little better now although very tired; my symptoms came and went in about 24 hours and wasn't really a problem. Just goes to show that viruses affect different people in very different ways. Heaven knows where I got it but from the timing it was definitely me who gave it to the wife.

Hope you get better soon and that it's nothing serious.
 
I tested positive with Covid 4 weeks ago, the only symptom I had was a cough, which is just starting to ease off now. I have had all my jabs.....
 
ShinySideUp said:
Me too, but unlike the deniers, I prefer to think that if I hadn't had them I might not be here to talk about it.
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I've had all my jabs so I'm no denier but it's worrying to see that "Unexplained" is now the most common cause of death in some age groups in multiple well jabbed countries. Some of the nay sayers who have long warned that this could be the worlds worst ever health scandal could still be proved right but if that sad outcome is the case there'll be a lot of closing of ranks and there'll need to be a long passage of time before it's admitted.

It's up to each of us to make out own minds up but I do think that the jabbing of ever younger children probably needs to stop and of course the coercion to have the latest jab hasn't stopped and services or rights may well be denied to those who haven't taken the latest jab. Also the drift into ever more data collection and digitisation could be a worry.
 
woof woof said:
I've had all my jabs so I'm no denier but it's worrying to see that "Unexplained" is now the most common cause of death in some age groups in multiple well jabbed countries. Some of the nay sayers who have long warned that this could be the worlds worst ever health scandal could still be proved right but if that sad outcome is the case there'll be a lot of closing of ranks and there'll need to be a long passage of time before it's admitted.

It's up to each of us to make out own minds up but I do think that the jabbing of ever younger children probably needs to stop and of course the coercion to have the latest jab hasn't stopped and services or rights may well be denied to those who haven't taken the latest jab. Also the drift into ever more data collection and digitisation could be a worry.
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This is probably not the place for such a discussion but I if might comment on your very last statement highlighted above. As far as COVID is concerned there is in fact less data collection as there are few free tests and cases are estimated based on ONS surveys. I think it unlikely, as COVID becomes less lethal, that any services would be withheld from the unvaccinated. The injections are doing their job despite the lack of take-up amongst certain members of society and when the boosters come along in Autumn, I shall be taking mine with alacrity.
 
ShinySideUp said:
This is probably not the place for such a discussion but I if might comment on your very last statement highlighted above. As far as COVID is concerned there is in fact less data collection as there are few free tests and cases are estimated based on ONS surveys. I think it unlikely, as COVID becomes less lethal, that any services would be withheld from the unvaccinated. The injections are doing their job despite the lack of take-up amongst certain members of society and when the boosters come along in Autumn, I shall be taking mine with alacrity.
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Mrs WW recently would have been denied a flight if she hadn't been able to prove her vaccination status and recently had to prove her status for a new job and there has been talk of younger children receiving the jab in the UK so the train is still moving on in the same direction or at least attempting to but as I don't work, don't travel and we don't have children I don't follow all this too well, I just come across the headlines and articles and sometimes read them. The deaths and illnesses have been more publicised more recently and this could indeed be a worry and compensation cases are in the pipeline. As someone who isn't particularly at risk I'll pass on future jabs but may have to have some at some point if facing denial of service or some other coercion.

Oh er... and in the news very recently the UK is the first to pass a vaccine for Covid and new variant. Moderna is it.
 
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ShinySideUp said:
Me too, but unlike the deniers, I prefer to think that if I hadn't had them I might not be here to talk about it.
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I am sure my COVID symptoms & eventual outcome could have been a lot worse without the jabs, I will be in the queue for my Autumn booster when it's offered.
 
woof woof said:
Mrs WW recently would have been denied a flight if she hadn't been able to prove her vaccination status and recently had to prove her status for a new job and there has been talk of younger children receiving the jab in the UK so the train is still moving on in the same direction or at least attempting to but as I don't work, don't travel and we don't have children I don't follow all this too well, I just come across the headlines and articles and sometimes read them. The deaths and illnesses have been more publicised more recently and this could indeed be a worry and compensation cases are in the pipeline. As someone who isn't particularly at risk I'll pass on future jabs but may have to have some at some point if facing denial of service or some other coercion.

Oh er... and in the news very recently the UK is the first to pass a vaccine for Covid and new variant. Moderna is it.
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There are possibly other benefits to getting all the vaccines going - see my post in the Virus thread.

It possibly doesn't apply to vaccines generally but there is quite a bit of evidence that challenging the immune system rather than living in a ‘sterile’ environment may be good for you. To me it makes more sense than avoiding vaccines on hypothetical fears without evidence.
 
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WAMT is myself - more specifically, my crap memory! Took me ages to find the menu options on my Fuji bodies to shoot without a (CPU) lens attached so my shiny new Meike 6.5mm fisheye wouldn't work! Sorted now but I have blisters from digging through all the menus, eventually finding the option in the oh-so-logical Button/Dial Settings area...

And breathe!
 
At the risk of creating an argument, if all murder convictions will not be served by capital punishment, full term life sentences must be the order of the day, and not in 4* prisons either, it’s getting out of hand, the scum don’t care.
 
WAMT -- medical thermometers.

Bought a digital thermometer in 2020 after the start of the Covid pandemic and tried it out at the time -- fine.

Now, two years later, there is a suspicion of Covid so out comes the thermometer and that was all she wrote -- dead as a Dodo. So that was bloody pointless.

I know there is a problem with the old glass mercury thermometers in that they contain a toxic substance, you know, mercury, but surely there is a modern alternative with the little pinch point that doesn't require a bloody battery! I mean, unless one is a medical professional, how often is Joe Public going to use a thermometer? Not very often. So having to buy one with a battery that may or may not work when in direst need is bloody stupid.
 
mj4456 said:
At the risk of creating an argument, if all murder convictions will not be served by capital punishment, full term life sentences must be the order of the day.
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This is what was promised when the government went against what was perceived to be the will of the people and stopped killing those who had killed others.

Then we were told it was too expensive to keep people in prison for the rest of their lives, because they "needed to be looked after". It seems to me that some people in this country have several screws not only loose but missing altogether. :naughty:
 
simon ess said:
Darkroom thermometer for film developing.
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I have one but it is for B&W and if used for body temp it goes right to the top. We ended up using a food thermometer to get a rough idea, the wife jokingly said "what meat shall I choose to be?", I replied "mutton". Fortunately, despite being ill, she laughed. It was near enough to show no fever.
 
sphexx said:
It possibly doesn't apply to vaccines generally but there is quite a bit of evidence that challenging the immune system rather than living in a ‘sterile’ environment may be good for you. To me it makes more sense than avoiding vaccines on hypothetical fears without evidence.
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When I was a kid, we used to play on a nearby farm getting covered in cow poo and drinking milk direct from the udder. Later on, I used to go fishing and after putting a maggot on a hook, or de-hooking a fish, hygiene consisted of wiping our hands on our grubby jeans before eating a sandwich. In the last few days my wife and I have contracted COVID and while she is in bed feeling sick and dizzy, I have been out cycling the country lanes taking photographs with no symptoms at all; she led a much more hygienic and sheltered life. A sample of two is hardly significant but I'm convinced my exposure to general dirt and germs when I was a kid has aided my resistance to infectious diseases in later life.

NB: It did not however help my early exposure to smoking and fatty foods which gave me heart disease at the age of 43, fortunately something I have been asymptomatic of for the last 25 years after an angioplasty.

So the moral is: don't smoke and don't get fat but instead drink plenty of beer and get mucky a lot.
 
ShinySideUp said:
WAMT -- medical thermometers.

Bought a digital thermometer in 2020 after the start of the Covid pandemic and tried it out at the time -- fine.

Now, two years later, there is a suspicion of Covid so out comes the thermometer and that was all she wrote -- dead as a Dodo. So that was bloody pointless.

I know there is a problem with the old glass mercury thermometers in that they contain a toxic substance, you know, mercury, but surely there is a modern alternative with the little pinch point that doesn't require a bloody battery! I mean, unless one is a medical professional, how often is Joe Public going to use a thermometer? Not very often. So having to buy one with a battery that may or may not work when in direst need is bloody stupid.
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I’ve had a few ‘modern‘ ones, one supplied by the hospital Nowadays I use a comparatively cheap (I think about £25 on Amazon) non contact IR thermometer that appears to be very accurate and certainly consistent. One can switch it to read (non body) “surface“ temperatures for which it’s very useful checking rooms or outdoors, during this recent heat wave for example.

Being non contact it’s particularly handy for families etc.
 
sphexx said:
I’ve had a few ‘modern‘ ones, one supplied by the hospital Nowadays I use a comparatively cheap (I think about £25 on Amazon) non contact IR thermometer that appears to be very accurate and certainly consistent. One can switch it to read (non body) “surface“ temperatures for which it’s very useful checking rooms or outdoors, during this recent heat wave for example.

Being non contact it’s particularly handy for families etc.
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Yes I use something similar it uses normal batteries AA or AAA I can’t remember which , I’ve never had to replace them it’s accurate and handy
 
WAMT was catching the corner of a fingernail on something and bending it the wrong way. Managed to trim the worst of the creased bit off and have smothered the rest in a hard setting nail varnish.
 
Yup - matches my lip gloss! :P
 
Flies !!!!!
I cooked a nice sea bass fillet to go with salad and now I have swarms of flies in the house :headbang::headbang::headbang:
 
Today I went somewhere I'd never been before and as I'd got my directions of the internet of course I got lost. How can the internet be so wrong? It's never right IMO.

Oh and another annoyance was road side signs that are too obscured by foliage to read,

Grrrrr...
 
woof woof said:
Oh and another annoyance was road side signs that are too obscured by foliage to read,
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Had that today. I did my usual head that way for a bit, take any road I like the look of and see where I end up. When had enough head more or less in direction of home,

Obscured signs don't help finding my way home.
 
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