The virus. PPE. Part 1

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I get my medication from Pilltime. They arrive by post/courier every month.

https://www.pilltime.co.uk/

You should be able to go to another pharmacy, just ask you GP surgery to send the prescription over to them. My surgery cocked up last month and didn't get my prescription over to Pilltime in time. They sent it over to Tesco pharmacy whilst I was in store.

Thank you very much.

Since posting, I had a call back from the pharmacy with an estimated collection date of Wednesday.

But I was warned that was providing that my medication is actually in stock with their suppliers, who are also having problems with staff shortages.
 
That very point was in question here in France when people are allowed out for their brief exercise breaks.

How do the monitoring authorities know that the pair are indeed a couple and not individuals from different households?

Knowing the French it would be a bloke and his mistress :p
 
Not sure whether i would prefer to take a chance with the virus than have Rabb running the show!

Indeed.

I presume this refers to physical rather than mental incapacity. If mental impairment is the trigger, we probably would have had a substitute PM in place already, judging
by recent decision making.
 
Just driven to work. When I was unlocking my car to leave, I noticed it was eerily quiet, barely any traffic noise from the A127 and M25 which you become accustomed to and doesn't really register, so the fact I couldn't hear it was instantly noticeable. Also no buses driving down our road, there is always at least one maybe two even if they are at the bus stop up the road.
My son has just messaged me whilst on his break, he has had to drive from Essex to Hampshire today to make a delivery and said the M25 was very quiet in both directions.
He heard on the radio that Scotland is to close all building sites, if England does the same, he will be on layoff.
 
Thank you very much.

Since posting, I had a call back from the pharmacy with an estimated collection date of Wednesday.

But I was warned that was providing that my medication is actually in stock with their suppliers, who are also having problems with staff shortages.

Yes, that's a worry. I take a large amount of medication, I shudder to think what will happen if there's a supply problem.
 
Our car is due its MOT in May so I looked online to see there were any changes to the requirement that I'd missed.

This is from the .gov.uk site - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-mots-for-lorries-buses-and-trailers

In some way I can see the reasoning for it as there are fleets of lorries and buses which would mean lots of MOTs with the attendant risks, but as there are far fewer vehicles on the road(at least round here) perhaps suspending MOTs for all might have been a good idea.

Anyway, unless things change an MOT for your car will be needed as usual.

Dave
 
I called my pharmacy several days ago to make up my prescriptions. I was told that due to several staff members going sick it would be ‘some time’ before my medicines
would be ready.

For the first time ever, I requested a home delivery. I was told that this was not possible as all their delivery drivers are off work sick.

Earlier today, I called the pharmacy to see if my medicines were ready. They are not.

I have no idea if I can go to another pharmacy as my prescriptions are sent to my pharmacy electronically from my surgery.


We are getting to the point where we need to do another shop. As I’m in the vulnerable group, I really don’t want to go into a shop or supermarket if I can possibly avoid it. Looking online, there is no realistic prospect of home delivery (or even click n collect) for weeks.

I’ve been told that even the ‘silver’ hour shopping times are not enforced and are abused, with many of my friends unable to get the foods they need and finding shelves empty.

It looks like I’m having to go out and risk infection or go hungry and forgo my medication. And even if I do go out, there’s no guarantee that I can get what I need.

It’s already not looking good and things haven’t got really bad yet.
Yup. Due to an ongoing cockup by my hospital pharmacy I‘m out of an anti-viral supportive medication that I have to take with the chemo. I‘m (hopefully temporarily) unable to drive and have been trying to organise a prescription and delivery. Eventually I phoned the Specialist Haematology Nurses (who are always excellent) on Friday and they have organised a prescription but can’t get a delivery so a nurse is going to drop it off at my door. This is not a good use of nurses, though it’s possible I’m on someone’s way home (quite likely, I’m on a main Harrogate-Leeds road). But the hospital outpatients pharmacy that I collect from is run by Lloyd’s Pharmacy who advertise that they do deliveries :(.
Similar problem with my GP pharmacy which in the surgery but run by Day Lewis and I know they do deliveries but no one seems to know how it is arranged! :(
In a way its my fault in both cases because I’ve always collected pills before even though I have to make an extra trip just to collect, sometimes two extra trips!
 
Our car is due its MOT in May so I looked online to see there were any changes to the requirement that I'd missed.

This is from the .gov.uk site - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-mots-for-lorries-buses-and-trailers

In some way I can see the reasoning for it as there are fleets of lorries and buses which would mean lots of MOTs with the attendant risks, but as there are far fewer vehicles on the road(at least round here) perhaps suspending MOTs for all might have been a good idea.

Anyway, unless things change an MOT for your car will be needed as usual.

Dave
My local garages are doing a collection service for MOT, services and sales. According to @nilagin all Fords are doing this.
 
Just been to the Post Office, yes it was essential and no its none of your business

Very well organised, one person in there at a time, everyone else queuing outside a good 2m apart.
All sorted out voluntarily with everyone happy to obey the distancing conventions
 
Just been to the Post Office, yes it was essential and no its none of your business
but we’re gunna quiz and torture you anyway for additional info .... if only to help pass the time of day for some of us [emoji23]

If it was photography / classifieds related then perhaps you’ll only suffer the thumb screw;)
 
Just been to the Post Office, yes it was essential and no its none of your business

Very well organised, one person in there at a time, everyone else queuing outside a good 2m apart.
All sorted out voluntarily with everyone happy to obey the distancing conventions
Wouldn't Tesco deliver the bog roll :)
 
Maybe a small glimmer of light.

Germany's infection curve may be flattening - health chief
There are signs Germany's infection curve - reflecting rise in the number of cases - may be becoming less steep, according to the head of the country’s public health institute.
"We are seeing signs that the exponential growth curve is flattening off slightly," Lothar Wieler, president of the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) for disease control, told reporters.
"But I will only be able to confirm this trend definitively on Wednesday. But I am optimistic that the measures are already having an effect, which is very early because they have only been in place for a week."
Efforts to reduce the spread of the virus in the country have included school closures, hygiene measures such as hand-washing and restrictions on public gatherings.
The RKI reported earlier on Monday that the country now had 22,672 cases of Covid-19 - an increase of 4,062 on the previous day - and that 86 people had died so far.
Germany was flagged up as having way more icu beds than U.K. (or anyone, I think) and I would have a small bet they well are provided for generally with hospitals, plus they actually still make stuff.
 
On a forum that my wife belongs to a member 78/80 years old said this. I'll paraphrase it.

"Is all this panic necessary ? It does seem to me to be getting beyond a joke. We've had pandemics before with some disruption but not like this.
She acknowledges that the virus is dangerous but still compared it to the 'flu and said that we don't panic when that comes round each year and many elderly die so why now. She went on to say "but life is not everlasting and all of us will die one day. As I watch yet another programme on tv with questions and answers about the virus I begin to wonder what is going on here. Life, as we know it seems to be crumbling before our eyes".

Well, one of her granddaughters returned home from University on Friday and over the weekend developed a nasty cough and high temperature so now that part of the family is on self-isolation. Fortunately, the youg lady in question hadn't got round to visiting grandma, who has since acknowledged that she was wrong regarding her attitude.

Someone further up the thread suggested that it was a case of all the problems are 'over there'.Ie..Italy and Spain etc and it's not until it hits home that reality dawns on them. I listen to the Five Live Nolan programme from 10..00pm on Friday, Saturday and Sunday and some of the callers have the same view and always compare it to the 'flu. Last night Nolan had to cut short a call with two of them as he wasn't going to allow someone to undermine the seriousness of the unfolding situation. I wonder what the calls will be like by next weekend.

We're booked to see River Dance at St David's Hall,Cardiff in June and we've just had an Email to tell us it's been rescheduled and another concert we've booked, a Welsh Male Voice choir has been cancelled .We have to call the booking office.
 
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After Thursday's count, France and Germany were neck and neck in the totals but today's current figures show Germany having 60% more reported cases than France.

Inevitably there will be differences in testing, reporting and so on but social behaviour is also likely to be responsible for some of the current gap.
 
My local garages are doing a collection service for MOT, services and sales. According to @nilagin all Fords are doing this.

I just spoke to a local Ford dealership as my van lease is due to end, I was informed that if I want a new or used Ford through them , I cannot take a test drive, it would be a case of there's the car and here's the keys goodbye.
 
I cannot take a test drive, it would be a case of there's the car and here's the keys goodbye.
And of course the first rule of buying new or used is, never without driving it first.
That's what i don't get about these adverts, offering to sell you a car and delivering it direct to your door ( even before the s*** hit the fan)
Do people really buy like that?
 
And of course the first rule of buying new or used is, never without driving it first.
That's what i don't get about these adverts, offering to sell you a car and delivering it direct to your door ( even before the s*** hit the fan)
Do people really buy like that?
There's often a 30 day no quibble thingy, but I'd want to test drive the actual vehicle I was buying, been "caught" by that twice, once a car, once a bike, not happening again.
 
And of course the first rule of buying new or used is, never without driving it first.
That's what i don't get about these adverts, offering to sell you a car and delivering it direct to your door ( even before the s*** hit the fan)
Do people really buy like that?
If you order a new car, you don't get to drive it until collection day. When I bought my car, it was sitting in the showroom, so certainly no hope of driving it, I could have test drove another similar model, but it wouldn't have been driving the actual car I intended to buy.
Made collection day all the better too when i started the engine and the exhaust bubbling away. :)
I'd have thought a test drive would only be relevant if buying 2nd hand, just to check if there are problems with the car.
 
I can clearly see most of you are ripe for total tyranny. This has no longer anything to do with taking your own reasonable steps to avoid infection or spreading it. You want iron fist upon you and everyone else. Well good luck but I really want out of here now
oh well snowdonia national park is now totally closed to all visitors . all car parks are being locked and off road parking places are being made unusable due to the actions of a lot nearly said a few mindless individuals . so you can cross that one off your to do list
 
On a forum that my wife belongs to a member 78/80 years old said this. I'll paraphrase it.

"Is all this panic necessary ? It does seem to me to be getting beyond a joke. We've had pandemics before with some disruption but not like this.
She acknowledges that the virus is dangerous but still compared it to the 'flu and said that we don't panic when that comes round each year and many elderly die so why now. She went on to say "but life is not everlasting and all of us will die one day. As I watch yet another programme on tv with questions and answers about the virus I begin to wonder what is going on here. Life, as we know it seems to be crumbling before our eyes".

Well, one of her granddaughters returned home from University on Friday and over the weekend developed a nasty cough and high temperature so now that part of the family is on self-isolation. Fortunately, the youg lady in question hadn't got round to visiting grandma, who has since acknowledged that she was wrong regarding her attitude.

Someone further up the thread suggested that it was a case of all the problems are 'over there'.Ie..Italy and Spain etc and it's not until it hits home that reality dawns on them. I listen to the Five Live Nolan programme from 10..00pm on Friday, Saturday and Sunday and some of the callers have the same view and always compare it to the 'flu. Last night Nolan had to cut short a call with two of them as he wasn't going to allow someone to undermine the seriousness of the unfolding situation. I wonder what the calls will be like by next weekend.

We're booked to see River Dance at St David's Hall,Cardiff in June and we've just had an Email to tell us it's been rescheduled and another concert we've booked, a Welsh Male Voice choir has been cancelled .We have to call the booking office.
There was a report from few day ago going round bars or clubs somewhere in the NE and the common view was it was all brought in from China by foreigners. Some truth in that but it was “brought in” by business people and holidaymakers, some foreign but probably mostly not :(.
 
And of course the first rule of buying new or used is, never without driving it first.
That's what i don't get about these adverts, offering to sell you a car and delivering it direct to your door ( even before the s*** hit the fan)
Do people really buy like that?
Yes exactly I wouldn’t buy a car or bike without riding or driving it first
 
Having just taken a quick glance at the news on French TV, I was fortunate to have timed perfectly to see some lightheartdness …... The police controlling the streets of Paris, with one dancing ( sort of break dance style) to the music of one of the residents confined to their home. and another clip showing locals in Spain singing happy birthday from their balconies to an 80 year old neighbour.:)

EDIT that, I think the dancing was more of an attempt at "moonwalking.'.......Oh gawd having two left feet i wouldn't know one dance style from another :LOL:
 
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Our car is due its MOT in May so I looked online to see there were any changes to the requirement that I'd missed.

This is from the .gov.uk site - https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-mots-for-lorries-buses-and-trailers

In some way I can see the reasoning for it as there are fleets of lorries and buses which would mean lots of MOTs with the attendant risks, but as there are far fewer vehicles on the road(at least round here) perhaps suspending MOTs for all might have been a good idea.

Anyway, unless things change an MOT for your car will be needed as usual.

Dave
Oh I wondered about mots my bike is booked in for Thursday I do need it doing for the insurance and to be able to ride it

I’m also due dentist checkup and eye test but will cancel those as they are non essential
 
Oh I wondered about mots my bike is booked in for Thursday I do need it doing for the insurance and to be able to ride it

I’m also due dentist checkup and eye test but will cancel those as they are non essential
Dentist may cancel you anyway depending on the procedure.
 
There's often a 30 day no quibble thingy, but I'd want to test drive the actual vehicle I was buying, been "caught" by that twice, once a car, once a bike, not happening again.

Back in the day we used to buy company cars 3 or 4 at a time. I initially batches of Cortinas and later Mercs There was always one or 2 that were "better" than the others.
 
Just had a call cancelling my car service appointment on Wednesday.
 
Oh I wondered about mots my bike is booked in for Thursday I do need it doing for the insurance and to be able to ride it

I’m also due dentist checkup and eye test but will cancel those as they are non essential

Optometrists have been given advice not to perform routine eye tests.
 
UK coronavirus death toll rises to 335
A further 46 people in England who tested positive for Covid-19 have died, NHS England has said.The patients were aged between 47 and 105 years old and all had underlying health conditions.
This brings the total UK death toll to 335, with four deaths announced in both Scotland and Wales earlier on Monday.
 
This brings the total UK death toll to 335, with four deaths announced in both Scotland and Wales earlier on Monday.

and still enforced confinement hasn't been implemented:banghead:…...Perhaps there is pre determined figure set to reach before a serious change is made to the present set up. It certainly makes me wonder.
 
Not fantastic, but a glimmer of HOPE

Italy death toll continues to fall
Italy has reported another 602 deaths from coronavirus, Reuters news agency says. That brings the total death toll up to 6,078 - but it means that the daily number of deaths has fallen for the second day in a row, down from 651 on Sunday.
Crucially, our Rome correspondent Mark Lowen says, the rise in new infections has slowed again, from 9 to 8.1%.
 
and still enforced confinement hasn't been implemented:banghead:…...Perhaps there is pre determined figure set to reach before a serious change is made to the present set up. It certainly makes me wonder.

Possibly, total confinement is not realistic for an extended period, that is a widely accepted view.
It's not good people are dying, but it could be much worse in terms of sheer numbers.

I think they will leave the full lock down as a last resort and maybe not used at all if the death rate levels off
Trouble is once it is invoked where do you go after that if it doesn't work
 
UK coronavirus death toll rises to 335
A further 46 people in England who tested positive for Covid-19 have died, NHS England has said.The patients were aged between 47 and 105 years old and all had underlying health conditions.
This brings the total UK death toll to 335, with four deaths announced in both Scotland and Wales earlier on Monday.

Crazy, just going to get worse and worse. Today was my first day back in work and the tension is palpable :-(

I just hope that the government does the full lockdown sooner rather than later as I think, until then, it will continue like wildfire.
At least then those stupid enough to run the risk of the lockdown can be fined and if they continue can be charged with a criminal offence and possibly face jail. OK, someones going to point out there wont be spaces / prison service is under strain with illness of their officers, but it'll simply be a suspended sentence until the country gets straightened out I would think. The law will soon catch up with them.
 
Some specific advice from the Government on essential travel and second homes, holiday etc. Published yesterday.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-essential-travel-guidance

It's very short and copied below:

"This guidance is for people planning to visit second homes or holiday premises during the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

Essential travel does not include visits to second homes, camp sites, caravan parks or similar, whether for isolation purposes or holidays. People should remain in their primary residence. Not taking these steps puts additional pressure on communities and services that are already at risk."
 
and still enforced confinement hasn't been implemented:banghead:…...Perhaps there is pre determined figure set to reach before a serious change is made to the present set up. It certainly makes me wonder.
It will happen because the government have asked people to stay at home and avoid unnecessary travel, and if that's not possible then to use social distancing..
Unfortunately all the idiots have taken that to mean it's ok to go out as long as they stay at least 2m from others.
All the others that don't follow the social distancing must have some kind of death wish.
 
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