The virus. PPE. Part 1

[Cockney]

This is what I find REALLY disturbing, the attitudes of some of the OLDER generations……. Are we not supposed to express a "good example" to the youngsters?

I had to have quite a "firm" word with my own mother ( 77 years old) on saturday evening about her complacency and that of my stepfather ( 80 years old). ( They live (seperatley) on the IOM)

I agree they should be more aware of the risks to themselves and their own role in stopping the spread.

On their general attitude though, my Mum who died age 87 used to tell me that the older you get the less worried you are about death.
I (68) now understand what she meant.

 

[sphexx]

What?
That I ridiculed the idea of a couple keeping 2m apart out walking when they have just shared the same bed

Does that sound reasonable to you.
Good chance if we had anything we would have probably passed it to the other by now

You are missing the point and seeing things only from your point view not from what others may think when they see you. I know you are a sensible person but you have a blind spot there.

 

[jakeblu]

The air in your garden may be fresher. Again, I don’t know those farms (maybe all organic) but I find a lot of crops stink of pesticide/fungicide/herbicide .

I usually find crops stink of manure, round here anyway

 

[Canon Bob]

A quick trip into town (small) to visit the pharmacy here in France.......very few people about but there are Gendarmes driving and walking around.

Only three people allowed into the pharmacy at any time and they're separated by 3m inside. Temporary screens between the masked assistants and customers and cling film draped over the credit card pin pads (changed after each customer). The accasional car passing had a sole occupant and most were wearing masks whilst driving.

Whilst some might see this as 'overkill', nobody is going to be harmed by it.

 

[Asha]

Poor lass brought a tear to my eye tbh, both for her and for the fact that her words will still probably fall on many deaf ears

 

[Cockney]

I have only seen the term used once against me and that was probably at least a year ago, probably a lot longer.
His post was reported more than an hour ago, possibly even more than 2hrs ago, not that I expect anything will be done about it, if your response is anything to go by.

What's this all about? "Gym bunny" is a very common term.

 

[sphexx]

I can clearly see most of you are ripe for total tyranny. This has no longer anything to do with taking your own reasonable steps to avoid infection or spreading it. You want iron fist upon you and everyone else. Well good luck but I really want out of here now

Though what you write there is rubbish and very insulting, it’s often been pointed out that U.K. was more successful at waging ”total war” than the Nazis so we‘ll have to see if the Brit still has true grit — I doubt it on the evidence so far .

 

[Cockney]

I can clearly see most of you are ripe for total tyranny. This has no longer anything to do with taking your own reasonable steps to avoid infection or spreading it. You want iron fist upon you and everyone else. Well good luck but I really want out of here now

Bye.

 

[tijuana taxi]

You are missing the point and seeing things only from your point view not from what others may think when they see you. I know you are a sensible person but you have a blind spot there.

Why does it matter though if we are 2m or most probably more than that apart from anyone else?
Sorry i'm just not getting why anyone would be in the least bit bothered about a couple walking together

 

[sphexx]

What's this all about? "Gym bunny" is a very common term.

I’ve never heard it ... but I like it very appropriate .

 

[tijuana taxi]

I’ve never heard it ... but I like it very appropriate .

Brings to my mind the young ladies who used to go to the gym all dressed up in Pink and White gear
Legwarmers, sweat/hair bands and bag included, very easy on the eye

 

[danbroad]

Not targeted at anyone in particular, just my general thoughts, watching the news this weekend. I can only assume that those who are downplaying the nCOVID virus are in denial, ignorant, or plain just not bright enough to truly comprehend what is happening. Sorry, but there it is.

If you truly understood what a novel virus is, how it differs from what you've EVER had before, how it presents in humans and how underpowered we are to treat this, you'd be staying out of harm's way. I know more than many about this and I'm terrified of it. If you knew what I know, you would be too.

I can only hope you are one of the (thankful) 80% who suffer mildly, and that even if you could somehow guarantee you were in that 80% cohort (you can't)... you'd have sufficient social responsibilty to protect the 20%. Because I promise you that 20% probably includes someone you care about that you hadn't considered to be vulnerable to this.

How hard is it for people to get that simple message? Isolate, for now that doesn't have to be at home but it does have to be away from others. Because of the selfish actions of others, public space may well soon be prohibited for solo enjoyment as well, but let's see. Follow PHE and NHSE advice, even if it changes as newer information comes along

 

[nilagin]

What's this all about? "Gym bunny" is a very common term.

Odd then that as I have been working out in gyms, on and off for almost 40yrs and I had never heard of the expression before until I was labelled as such on here within the last couple of years. I even had to google it to find out what it actually meant.
I would have thought it referred to a woman who turns up in skimpy gym wear and make up and spends most of the time, posturing in mirrors and or flirting with other members.
As I am a 57yr old man, I definitely don't fit that description. According to google, I find a gym bunny is someone who spends a lot of their time in the gym in the pursuit of transforming their body to look good and is most likely to be gay although the term is sometimes aimed at heterosexuals.
I spend on average 5hrs a week in the gym, that is 1hr sessions Monday to Friday which isn't alot of time to spend in the gym. Some people spend hours in the gym each day and not because they work there.
So no it isn't a common term and I doubt there are many people I have met in several gyms would actually fall into any of those descriptions other than being gay or heterosexual. Some of the regulars I meet in the gym each week are in there 70's and 80's.
I would surmise that anyone who uses the term gym bunny, has never been to a gym and if they have, the wrong gym and hasn't a clue about what really goes on in a gym.

 

[nilagin]

I would surmise that anyone who uses the term gym bunny, has never been to a gym and if they have, the wrong gym and hasn't a clue about what really goes on in a gym.

I’ve never heard it ... but I like it very appropriate .

And there's the proof.

 

[mex]

There is no politics or worldview that is correct. This virus does not respect creed, colour, ethnicity, political allegiance, capitalist tendency. It doesn't care whether we have a right to roam, or a second home in the country. It couldn't care where the exact paths are to a beach, or of upsetting feelings if we can't travel like we planned to.

It is merely trying to replicate and survive, and for that it just needs two of us to stand close enough together.

Early research into antivirals, hydroxychloroquine etc are unproven as yet to many of us who read/digest the statistics and powers of published studies. Beating it is far more important for populations than treating it, because the way it presents clinically is unusually severe in humans and standard ICU treatments are often poorly effective.

To beat it, we have to stop it spreading. We stand further apart even on a sunny day in a nice place.

I hope you don't mind, but I found this quite moving so I shared it elsewhere. If it's a problem by all means PM me to let me know and I'll remove it.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Dominic Raab is the official ‘designated survivor’ should Johnson become ill.

 

[Asha]

I’ve never heard it ... but I like it very appropriate .

I hadn't heard of it either but like you I find it rather apt.

Similarly I only quite recently learnt ( from mum) the name and meaning of "snowflake" that is attributed to certain members of the UK population........I personally found that hilarious.
I wonder how the "snowflakes will fettle through this crisis

 

[Raymond Lin]

Not targeted at anyone in particular, just my general thoughts, watching the news this weekend. I can only assume that those who are downplaying the nCOVID virus are in denial, ignorant, or plain just not bright enough to truly comprehend what is happening. Sorry, but there it is.

If you truly understood what a novel virus is, how it differs from what you've EVER had before, how it presents in humans and how underpowered we are to treat this, you'd be staying out of harm's way. I know more than many about this and I'm terrified of it. If you knew what I know, you would be too.

I can only hope you are one of the (thankful) 80% who suffer mildly, and that even if you could somehow guarantee you were in that 80% cohort (you can't)... you'd have sufficient social responsibilty to protect the 20%. Because I promise you that 20% probably includes someone you care about that you hadn't considered to be vulnerable to this.

How hard is it for people to get that simple message? Isolate, for now that doesn't have to be at home but it does have to be away from others. Because of the selfish actions of others, public space may well soon be prohibited for solo enjoyment as well, but let's see. Follow PHE and NHSE advice, even if it changes as newer information comes along

Well, statistically speaking....

 

[Bobsyeruncle]

I hadn't heard of it either but like you I find it rather apt.

Similarly I only quite recently learnt ( from mum) the name and meaning of "snowflake" that is attributed to certain members of the UK population........I personally found that hilarious.
I wonder how the "snowflakes will fettle through this crisis

Snowflake isn't just a UK term....I'm sure your country has it's fair share.

 

[sphexx]

Dominic Raab is the official ‘designated survivor’ should Johnson become ill.

We are doomed, doomed I tell you , doomed!

 

[Uncle Fester]

Well, statistically speaking....

Another Sombrero that’s being squashed?

 

[nilagin]

Not targeted at anyone in particular, just my general thoughts, watching the news this weekend. I can only assume that those who are downplaying the nCOVID virus are in denial, ignorant, or plain just not bright enough to truly comprehend what is happening. Sorry, but there it is.

If you truly understood what a novel virus is, how it differs from what you've EVER had before, how it presents in humans and how underpowered we are to treat this, you'd be staying out of harm's way. I know more than many about this and I'm terrified of it. If you knew what I know, you would be too.

I can only hope you are one of the (thankful) 80% who suffer mildly, and that even if you could somehow guarantee you were in that 80% cohort (you can't)... you'd have sufficient social responsibilty to protect the 20%. Because I promise you that 20% probably includes someone you care about that you hadn't considered to be vulnerable to this.

How hard is it for people to get that simple message? Isolate, for now that doesn't have to be at home but it does have to be away from others. Because of the selfish actions of others, public space may well soon be prohibited for solo enjoyment as well, but let's see. Follow PHE and NHSE advice, even if it changes as newer information comes along

It's hard for people to understand, because none of us have experienced anything like it and certainly not on this scale.
But it is sinking in and more and more people are taking isolation more seriously, our town, doesn't have many actual shops left so not busy like it was 5-10yrs ago, but over the last few weeks, it is almost a ghost town. Hardly anyone walking about and traffic levels dropped drastically. There is a set of traffic lights on a dual carriageway that I generally avoid, because it is always heavy traffic, now you can pull up at the stop line without queueing behind 30 or 40 cars.

 

[nilagin]

I hadn't heard of it either but like you I find it rather apt.

And another.

 

[nilagin]

I hadn't heard of it either but like you I find it rather apt.

Similarly I only quite recently learnt ( from mum) the name and meaning of "snowflake" that is attributed to certain members of the UK population........I personally found that hilarious.
I wonder how the "snowflakes will fettle through this crisis

It actually gets used for different members of society. It also gets used as a homophobic slur because they can get away with it as few actually are likely to know what is meant.

 

[danbroad]

Stopping the spread is our best hope for now. I don't mean to scaremonger here on TP, but perhaps if people won't listen to simple advice then they do need to be scared - or the rules enforced, or both. (That though is a decision taken way above my pay grade). We have a superb and capable NHS, but the resources are finite, managing throughput will be essential.

 

[Tirpitz]

i used to be a regular gym user before swapping fitness for fatness & i've heard the term "gym bunny" before.
in my experience it was never used in a derogatory way or percieved as an insult..

 

[Canon Bob]

Sorry i'm just not getting why anyone would be in the least bit bothered about a couple walking together

That very point was in question here in France when people are allowed out for their brief exercise breaks.

How do the monitoring authorities know that the pair are indeed a couple and not individuals from different households?

 

[tijuana taxi]

That very point was in question here in France when people are allowed out for their brief exercise breaks.

How do the monitoring authorities know that the pair are indeed a couple and not individuals from different households?

I can fully understand that Bob, difference is here we are not under the same sort of restrictions

 

[Canon Bob]

I can fully understand that Bob, difference is here we are not under the same sort of restrictions

No. it's not a restriction, it's advice from professionals but the same things applies.....how does anybody know if the advice is being followed when the crowded beaches show that it's being ignored elsewhere.

 

[Cockney]

Odd then that as I have been working out in gyms, on and off for almost 40yrs and I had never heard of the expression before until I was labelled as such on here within the last couple of years. I even had to google it to find out what it actually meant.
I would have thought it referred to a woman who turns up in skimpy gym wear and make up and spends most of the time, posturing in mirrors and or flirting with other members.
As I am a 57yr old man, I definitely don't fit that description. According to google, I find a gym bunny is someone who spends a lot of their time in the gym in the pursuit of transforming their body to look good and is most likely to be gay although the term is sometimes aimed at heterosexuals.
I spend on average 5hrs a week in the gym, that is 1hr sessions Monday to Friday which isn't alot of time to spend in the gym. Some people spend hours in the gym each day and not because they work there.
So no it isn't a common term and I doubt there are many people I have met in several gyms would actually fall into any of those descriptions other than being gay or heterosexual. Some of the regulars I meet in the gym each week are in there 70's and 80's.
I would surmise that anyone who uses the term gym bunny, has never been to a gym and if they have, the wrong gym and hasn't a clue about what really goes on in a gym.

I hope you're not referring to me. I spent countless hours in boxing gyms in London. No fancy machines required.

 

[Fuji Dave]

Maybe a small glimmer of light.

Germany's infection curve may be flattening - health chief
There are signs Germany's infection curve - reflecting rise in the number of cases - may be becoming less steep, according to the head of the country’s public health institute.
"We are seeing signs that the exponential growth curve is flattening off slightly," Lothar Wieler, president of the Robert Koch Institute (RKI) for disease control, told reporters.
"But I will only be able to confirm this trend definitively on Wednesday. But I am optimistic that the measures are already having an effect, which is very early because they have only been in place for a week."
Efforts to reduce the spread of the virus in the country have included school closures, hygiene measures such as hand-washing and restrictions on public gatherings.
The RKI reported earlier on Monday that the country now had 22,672 cases of Covid-19 - an increase of 4,062 on the previous day - and that 86 people had died so far.

 

[Uncle Fester]

I called my pharmacy several days ago to make up my prescriptions. I was told that due to several staff members going sick it would be ‘some time’ before my medicines
would be ready.

For the first time ever, I requested a home delivery. I was told that this was not possible as all their delivery drivers are off work sick.

Earlier today, I called the pharmacy to see if my medicines were ready. They are not.

I have no idea if I can go to another pharmacy as my prescriptions are sent to my pharmacy electronically from my surgery.


We are getting to the point where we need to do another shop. As I’m in the vulnerable group, I really don’t want to go into a shop or supermarket if I can possibly avoid it. Looking online, there is no realistic prospect of home delivery (or even click n collect) for weeks.

I’ve been told that even the ‘silver’ hour shopping times are not enforced and are abused, with many of my friends unable to get the foods they need and finding shelves empty.

It looks like I’m having to go out and risk infection or go hungry and forgo my medication. And even if I do go out, there’s no guarantee that I can get what I need.

It’s already not looking good and things haven’t got really bad yet.

 

[jakeblu]

It actually gets used for different members of society. It also gets used as a homophobic slur because they can get away with it as few actually are likely to know what is meant.

Whilst it can be used to describe a gay man who frequently goes to the gym, I'm pretty certain its not a homophobic slur.

 

[Cockney]

Whilst it can be used to describe a gay man who frequently goes to the gym, I'm pretty certain its not a homophobic slur.

It was generally used to describe people who go to the gym and row for 10 mins, jog for 10 mins, toss light dumbbells for 5 mins get a slight dab on and call it a workout.

 

[Asha]

It was generally used to describe people who go to the gym and row for 10 mins, jog for 10 mins, toss light dumbbells for 5 mins get a slight dab on and call it a workout.

For some people a best part of half an hour light exercise is sufficient and indeed, depending on their physical abilities, very much a workout. We’re not all as fit/ healthy as each other for various reasons!

 

[myotis]

Interesting article here on how data sharing has helped in the fight against the virus:

https://horizon-magazine.eu/article...ng-has-led-faster-ever-outbreak-research.html

The second para is:

"When the new coronavirus (formally known as SARS-CoV-2) was identified in China in January, scientists around the world were ready to respond. The virus’s entire genetic makeup, or genome, was published online within days. By comparison, during the SARS coronavirus outbreak in 2003, this took almost three months, after the disease was originally blamed on chlamydia."

Incidentally, the online publication they refer to was published by Chinese scientists.

The penultimate para is also interesting:

"There was not much research into coronaviruses at all, until SARS. I know a few people who have been working on coronaviruses since the '90s, and they were not very well regarded – they had a hard time getting funding. It was considered a boring, irrelevant virus."

 

[mex]

I have received a meme from a friend

" Now wash your hands, like you have never washed them before, like you have just chopped up a Carolina chilli and decided to masturbate afterwards"

 

[Marc]

I have no idea if I can go to another pharmacy as my prescriptions are sent to my pharmacy electronically from my surgery.

I get my medication from Pilltime. They arrive by post/courier every month.

https://www.pilltime.co.uk/

You should be able to go to another pharmacy, just ask you GP surgery to send the prescription over to them. My surgery cocked up last month and didn't get my prescription over to Pilltime in time. They sent it over to Tesco pharmacy whilst I was in store.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I can fully understand that Bob, difference is here we are not under the same sort of restrictions

the virus doesn't know anything about differences in restrictions.
it is opportunistic
If it can Jump it will jump

 

[cambsno]

Dominic Raab is the official ‘designated survivor’ should Johnson become ill.

Not sure whether i would prefer to take a chance with the virus than have Rabb running the show!