The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

Pete, well I certainly enjoyed those, and the church shot in particular shows the benefit of a decent camera that's with you conpared to a wonderful one in a bag at home! And I do like the "story behind the shots" approach. I do go looking for particular shots sometimes (mainly in response to the various challenges over on the Film and Conventional forum here), but mostly I'm just looking and trying to see better.

Many thanks Chris: like you, I don't go out looking for shots, or a 'story'. The camera remains in the pocket most of the time - I don't take many photos. On looking at what I do have afterwards, an unsuspected natural 'thread' seems to occur to me with no need for fiction, which is just as well since I've no imagination!

Pete
 
One thing worth mentioning - if you look at the clouds you have "blown" whites. I'd bring it down a tad in the PP stakes...

Thanks Martyn - yes, I did have trouble with the clouds: I've a lot to learn with this PP lark. Yvonne has made several suggestions I'm following up re acquiring the essential skills.

Pete
 
Thanks Martyn - yes, I did have trouble with the clouds: I've a lot to learn with this PP lark. Yvonne has made several suggestions I'm following up re acquiring the essential skills.

Pete

Some times it is impossible to get the clouds and the subject as you want them.
Simply bracket your exposure (even hand held) You can then sort them in a layer in pp. The Position of clouds need not be perfect and it is easy to remove the unwanted sections.
It is easier and more convincing than trying to bring back detial that is simply not there.
 
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Piscator Pete said:
This lady passed me high above the village, deep in conversation on her mobile, making me wonder if the same rules apply to horse riders as well as to motorists when on the Queen's Highway.

The rules of the road apply, I think, to all road users, but I have never heard of a rider being prosecuted for using a mobile phone, more's the pity. Neither I nor the lovely Mrs Anubis would dream of doing it, not least because it spoils the pleasure of riding, but we see plenty of others engrossed in calls or plugged into iPods whilst on horseback.

As you may know, horses have very small brains in proportion to their overall size; perhaps the same is true of mobile-using riders.
 
Some times it is impossible to get the clouds and the subject as you want them.
Simply bracket your exposure (even hand held) You can then sort them in a layer in pp. The Position of clouds need not be perfect and it is easy to remove the unwanted sections.
It is easier and more convincing than trying to bring back detial that is simply not there.

Thanks Terry - I have been bracketing my exposures in my most frequently used mode: a very useful feature of the X10. It is 'layers' I'm trying to get my head round in Photoshop Elements 6 at the moment, also suggested by Yvonne. Your advice is most welcome.

Pete
 
EDIT to add - WHOOPS!!!!!!!
I didn't spot there was already a page of replies.
I thought this thread had gone quiet - it hasn't :D
Here's what I replied, just in case it reinforces something someone already said!

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Pete - nice set, but the highlights are looking rather blown.
If you are taking RAW then expose for the highlights.
If you are taking JPEG then get that Auto DR turned back on!

Nick - There's no real advantage between P and A mode. I prefer P so that the max shutter speed doesn't get exceeded if the light improves.
Hence I suggest P mode, ISO Auto 3200 and IS set to "Continuous + Motion".
Take in RAW to allow white balance correction and expose for the stage. Either half press the shutter to lock exposure, use the AEL button or dial in some exposure compensation.
Also...
In dark conditions don't forget to turn down the screen brightness otherwise it is easy to get fooled into badly underexposing the images. Check the histogram.

Rhodese - when I tried Pro Low Light I got a single 6Mp JPEG.
Sound more like you were using bracketing (ISO, WB, exposure, etc)
 
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Rhodese - when I tried Pro Low Light I got a single 6Mp JPEG.
Sound more like you were using bracketing (ISO, WB, exposure, etc)

Perhaps Rhodese had the "save original shots" option (or whatever it is) turned on?
 
Perhaps Rhodese had the "save original shots" option (or whatever it is) turned on?

That's what I though initially as well Chris but - Duncan's suggestion would explain why Rhodese would see similar shots side by side without really being able to differentiate between which is the actual pro light shot.

Rhodese - can you confirm your drive button (press up on command dial in shooting mode) is set up to single shot, and your settings menu option is set to "save original shots"?
 
The rules of the road apply, I think, to all road users, but I have never heard of a rider being prosecuted for using a mobile phone, more's the pity. ....

I think the rules only apply to vehicles using the highway. At a stretch, I suppose that could include pedal cycles ( I think the Met are looking into this) and horse drawn carriages ( Australia has convicted someone using a phone driving a carriage)
But there is always careless driving / riding to be considered.

Allan
 
Here are a couple of images as promised of the 'Upbeat Beatles' taken at The Grand Opera House in York using the Pro-Low Light Mode ISO 800 :-

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Thanks for your help and advice yesterday. I did take a few images using the 'P' mode but there was still a great deal of motion. Next time I will try ISO 3200 but anticipate a little more grain.
 
That's what I though initially as well Chris but - Duncan's suggestion would explain why Rhodese would see similar shots side by side without really being able to differentiate between which is the actual pro light shot.

Rhodese - can you confirm your drive button (press up on command dial in shooting mode) is set up to single shot, and your settings menu option is set to "save original shots"?

Good morning all,
Yep I think you lot have cracked it. The drive mode was on middle. So does that mean that the drive setting affects all shooting modes and overrides the advanced options?
 
Good morning all,
Yep I think you lot have cracked it. The drive mode was on middle. So does that mean that the drive setting affects all shooting modes and overrides the advanced options?

No - it means you have multiple copies of the pro light shots. Not sure what middle means - there are a number of options - the most options are available in Manual mode. Basically rather than drive overriding the function you are using - the drive options change based on which mode you are in. This guarantees that whatever drive option you are using will always work with the mode you are in. For example switch to EXR and press drive - only a few options, now switch to Manual mode and press drive - all the options are displayed. So all you need to do is pick your favourite from the list of shots and it will be a pro light shot - job done :)

Set it to single shot without you specifically want to do something like bracketing exposure or fast frame captures.
 
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Thanks for your help and advice yesterday. I did take a few images using the 'P' mode but there was still a great deal of motion. Next time I will try ISO 3200 but anticipate a little more grain.

They've come out well. You got close to the action - nice one! As you say you could risk upping the ISO but I can already see grain in the shots - but that may have been extenuated in a PP process if you used one?

Like you say upping the ISO will allow faster shutter speed but if you want to be certain using S mode and setting shutter speed at something like 1/250th will guarantee you frozen action :)
 
I think the rules only apply to vehicles using the highway. At a stretch, I suppose that could include pedal cycles ( I think the Met are looking into this) and horse drawn carriages ( Australia has convicted someone using a phone driving a carriage)
But there is always careless driving / riding to be considered.

Allan


I know this is off topic, but I checked, and the Highway Code does indeed apply to horse riders.

Pete's observation is covered by this rule:
"keep both hands on the reins unless the rider is signalling"

Sadly, I couldn't find a rule pertaining to fat girls wearing jodphurs, which certainly should be against the law...



Back to the X10, and I clearly unwittingly changed a setting somewhere, because the camera took three bracketed exposures for every press of the shutter in most modes. I reset the camera, which has stopped it, but I was unable to work out what I'd done.
 
Back to the X10, and I clearly unwittingly changed a setting somewhere, because the camera took three bracketed exposures for every press of the shutter in most modes. I reset the camera, which has stopped it, but I was unable to work out what I'd done.

It's what the book calls the "Sub-command dial", Mark. I think it's physically a rather sloppy control, and with little effort you can push the top of the associated button, taking you into "Drive" if you are in shooting mode. More inadvertent depressions in succession and unknowingly you're into all sorts of 'trouble'. I've learnt to have a very light touch around that area!

Pete
 
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Pete, I think this must be what happens to me. My hands have a mind of their own.

Souldeep, with the camera in Pro-Light and pressing drive, I do not get any info on what the drive setting is. The reference to Middle is the camera reference to how many frames in a burst, SH-Super High, H-High, M-Middle, and L-Low.

In reference to my question on Pro Low-Light,
Some friends of whom the youngest is 63 reformed a band in 2010 after 30 years, with the object to play for charity and of course the fun of it. On Friday night, I was at a local social club where they were performing a gig in aide of the Air Ambulance. The floor lights where none existent, the stage lights the only source. I played with the camera, setting it first with wide apertures then to EXR and Pro Low-Light. The results were mixed. My inability to stand or hold the camera for long periods didn’t help. I had taken my monopod but it was too unyielding, so I dumped it and carried on with shaky Joe hands and leg tremors. I was more or less obliged to using the widest aperture.

Following is a selection of the more acceptable shots, all in camera black and white, moded in PS.
I except that they are noisy and not as sharp as they could be, so in the spirit of the 1960s and how it was then for amateur photographers give a bloke a break, ASA (ISO) 400 what’s that?

A short brief on PP.
As in most of the shots, the background was very bright and had a distracting sign. This was overcome by. Copy background layer, create new layer, and apply a black gradient at 40% (effectively grey) from the top to half way down the image then erasing it from over the subjects, leaving the back ground much quieter. The sign was removed from the copy layer by using the Healing Brush Tool; it works similar to the Clone Tool. The rest was dodging, burning, and finally cropping to 9”x6” or 6”x9” at 300ppi. I usually crop to this size as its my most used print size, if I want smaller its OK, If I want larger say 20”x16” its OK at 150/140 ppi. Not that I am saying that the following would go that big, I don’t think they would.
The first one is strait out of camera it shows the bright background and sign.
The second is processed as described, as is number three.
The forth one in the set is an amalgamation of two and three. The person at the front in two is not as well appointed as in three. In three, the mike is across the face of the chap in the middle, so I made a selection of the man in front on three, copied and pasted him into a new layer and moved the copy into two. Resized and positioned him, cloned out anything that was not wanted underneath him, adjusted to match exposure and levels, and finally flattened and re cropped.

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The sign was left in on this one.

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More,

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Don't like 60s music?

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The last one probably the worst one of the night I’ve added film grain (TRI X400 at ISO 200) to hopefully disguise how bad it really is.

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Rhodese, not at all sure about the drastic PP (I've personally never gone further than levels/curves and a bit of spot healing, but that's something to do with not having the software or the knowledge), but I really did enjoy these!
 
This is a great thread and it's what made me buy an X10 over another G12, I took the X10 to Preston Bus station on Sunday to give it a try, everything looks good but I'll give it a real low light session when I go to Manchester Christmas markets next weekend, here's a few from Preston Bus Station.












Pro Focus mode.



A quick go with the Tilt Shift mode.
 
Souldeep, with the camera in Pro-Light and pressing drive, I do not get any info on what the drive setting is. The reference to Middle is the camera reference to how many frames in a burst, SH-Super High, H-High, M-Middle, and L-Low.

Right - so that means you have it set to FPS - you want to move it off Burst to single shot (the option above). You do that by selecting drive mode then pressing the command dial up, rather than turning it (which selects the different burst frame rates).
 
This is a great thread and it's what made me buy an X10 over another G12, I took the X10 to Preston Bus station on Sunday to give it a try, everything looks good but I'll give it a real low light session when I go to Manchester Christmas markets next weekend, here's a few from Preston Bus Station.


My kinda shot... nice candid, good composition and works well in B&W :thumbs:


A quick go with the Tilt Shift mode.

Thanks for sharing - haven't tried that function yet. BTW ALL - if you want to try this option you need version 2 of the software.
 
Well, last night was the hardest photographic undertaking I've ever attempted.
A theatre show asked for shots of the audience arriving in fancy dress.
600+ people streaming through two entrances onto four floors and only 30mins from door opening to curtain up.
And we had to ask permission before taking the shot.
And there was nowhere to place people out of the way of the rest of the moving masses.
And the lighting was monumentally unhelpful.
And required no wide shots showing the auditorium.
And demanded no shots while the curtain was up.
And they want full editorial control of the images.
Worse still - it turned out only a handful of the audience came in fancy dress, so we ended up stalking them instead of nabbing them as they went past.

Took the 5DIII with 50mm f1.4 hoping to isolate my subjects and cope with low light
Plus the X10 for everything else!
With hindsight, the kit choice was just about the only part of the original plan that worked!
As you would expect - the X10 did marvellously when I needed a wider shot (or a sneaky pano).
And I can confirm there wasn't the slightest hint of orbing around the stage spotlights - first time I've been back near a stage since I got the sensor swapped, and this new sensor works REALLY well.

On the positive side, some of the images came out nicely and I'm sure they will be pleased.
We also got a back stage tour and got to see the show (which was wonderful).

Not sure when (or if) I'll be able to share these images.
Just wanted to share a really difficult experience.

The images were approved for release including the ones which pushed the rules we were asked to work with.
So for amusement, here's a link to the full set.
http://www.wild-landscapes.co.uk/Other/2012/Sound-of-Music/26742150_SgTv6Q

Here's one I never thought would make it to the final cut. It was taken on the pre-show familiarisation tour and was only included to show the theatre what we would have been able to take if we had been allowed. Imagine this with the stage full of actors taking the curtain call and the crowd giving a standing ovation; it would have been cracking! If this had been for real, then I'd have taken a step forward to get rid of that foreground rail.
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Here's one of the same scene just after the curtain came down (to avoid problems with the rules we were asked to work with). Of real note is how the X10 has handled the massive over exposure on the balcony mounted spotlights; just about perfect, not the slightest hint of an orb.
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I could have taken more images with the X10, I love the one posted above.
But a lot of the time even my 5DIII was struggling, and the 5DIII is pretty good in low light.
Typical exposures were ISO 5000, f1.4, 1/125s :eek:

The image quality in that set is some of the worst I've ever produced.
Mercifully, on the technical front my second shooter (also using a 5DIII) didn't fare any better.
We split the venue with me taking the lower floors, and her taking the top floors. She struck lucky as the cheap seats on the top floor was where the party was at.
We both struggled; but are dead chuffed with what we did manage to get!
 
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Some great shots in that set Duncan. Seems strange to share photos from different photographers on one website though. Steph loves a shallow DOF in her shots!!!

BTW - her website is not currently working. Perhaps Steph is new to game? Great eye if so!
 
Some great shots in that set Duncan. Seems strange to share photos from different photographers on one website though. Steph loves a shallow DOF in her shots!!!

BTW - her website is not currently working. Perhaps Steph is new to game? Great eye if so!

Sigh....
The whole sing along and fancy dress thing was new to the theatre group, so they weren't set up to host the images.
My website was the easy alternative.

DoF should be pretty much the same; we were both using 50mm f1.4 wide open (most of the time), except for the shots with the X10 :D

Steph's website is still a work in progress; watch that space.
You are right, she has a good eye and her intuition about the cheap seats was bob on.
As for 2nd tog, fingers crossed she's going to return the favour in the New Year and I'll get to be 2nd shooter for some of her gigs.
 

This one does it for me! Really love it. Did you take it in black and white or did you convert it afterwards? I am a big fan of black and white photography so would be interested to hear your methods.

I've not been contributing to this thread very much in recent times, I will try and process a few shots I took on a recent trip to porthtowan and share.
 
This one does it for me! Really love it. Did you take it in black and white or did you convert it afterwards? I am a big fan of black and white photography so would be interested to hear your methods.

I've not been contributing to this thread very much in recent times, I will try and process a few shots I took on a recent trip to porthtowan and share.

Yep I agree - it's an assault on the eyes - in an interesting way. To try and sum it up in a word - enigmatic.
 
AESamuel said:
This one does it for me! Really love it. Did you take it in black and white or did you convert it afterwards? I am a big fan of black and white photography so would be interested to hear your methods.

I've not been contributing to this thread very much in recent times, I will try and process a few shots I took on a recent trip to porthtowan and share.

All the images where taken in colour then converted in Lightroom, that way I had the option to keep them in colour if I wanted.
 
No - it means you have multiple copies of the pro light shots. Not sure what middle means - there are a number of options - the most options are available in Manual mode. Basically rather than drive overriding the function you are using - the drive options change based on which mode you are in. This guarantees that whatever drive option you are using will always work with the mode you are in. For example switch to EXR and press drive - only a few options, now switch to Manual mode and press drive - all the options are displayed. So all you need to do is pick your favourite from the list of shots and it will be a pro light shot - job done :)

Set it to single shot without you specifically want to do something like bracketing exposure or fast frame captures.

I'll try that thanks
 
Billy, a nice set, I think monochrome suits most urban environments; the candid shot is well caught.
I used to take raw to have the choice of colour or B+W, but decided that B+W in camera was best for me. The in camera processing is pretty much the way I would have converted them anyway, allowing me to go strait to PS for composition and finishing. I still use RAW when I’m shooting colour, belt and braces that’s me. ;)
 
Duncan, a nice set indeed, I love the girl with the yellow guitar.
 
Well as I said here are a few from a little trip me and the missus took to portreath and porthtowan. All edited in Lightroom 4.2 and the back and white conversions were made in Silver Efex 2 (my favourite black and white conversion software).

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Yv persuaded me to get some deeper understanding in travel and photo journalism.

I often pop over to the national portrait gallery to check out photo exhibitions and I happened to notice that Steve McCurry is hosting a master class this coming Saturday evening at the royal geological society. I'm quite a fan of his work so I've booked. If anyone else fancies it follow this link http://www.guardian.co.uk/guardian-masterclasses/steve-mccurry-photography-masterclass and PM me if you want a bevvy post class to mull over notes!
 
Well as I said here are a few from a little trip me and the missus took to portreath and porthtowan. All edited in Lightroom 4.2 and the back and white conversions were made in Silver Efex 2 (my favourite black and white conversion software).

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BRAVO Asa!!!

The sunset is special. So soft. Perfect PP work and great shot in the first place.
 
I was quite pleased with a few pics I got yesterday, but after seeing the latest works posted I'll risk showing just the one. :'( Landscape isn't my forté, but the limited palette and the light appealed to me.

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