The Fabulous Fuji X owners thread

stevewestern said:
I've always been a fan of zoom lenses but feel that maybe I should try a pancake lens for a bit of street photography.
So.... What's a cheap, ideally autofocus lens of about 25 - 27mm. All I've read about the fuji 27 is that it's focus is very noisy which doesn't sound ideal.
Maybe I should try a manual - I don't know, it's just an itch following a very interesting zoom presentation by Jo Houghton at my local camera club.
Thanks!
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I've just replied to your wanted thread, I'm selling my Viltrox 28mm :)
 
yamahatdm900 said:
There is also the Sigma 10-18 f2.8 and the Sigma 12mm F1.4
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Worth mentioning the Viltrox 13mm 1.4 which is another really nice fast, wide option. Viltrox generally seem to have something for everyone prime wise and all are sensibly priced. 27mm is utterly glorious. 75mm is fantastic but less useful. I'd love them to do an 18mm 1.2 and something really wide and fast. They've got me hooked.
 
Managed to land myself an X-T5; but I've only got manual primes or big zooms on X-Mount at the moment.

I'm gathering by the almost overwhelming feedback that the Viltrox Air primes are well worth the cash; the only downside being the lack of WR. Is that about the size of it?

I'm tossing up between a 35m Viltrox and the 35mm Fuji WR (theres one in classifieds at the moment...)
 
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colourofsound said:
I'm tossing up between a 35m Viltrox and the 35mm Fuji WR (theres one in classifieds at the moment...)
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For me the 'WR' makes more sense than an extra 0.3 - the Fuji f2 lenses are very good.
 
Does a leaf shutter and built in ND filter really matter?

Whilst the leaf shutter does ‘sound’ nice, my understanding is that it is really only helpful with flash photography?

An ND filter screwed on the front of a lens is hardly a big effort or cost.
 
colourofsound said:
Managed to land myself an X-T5; but I've only got manual primes or big zooms on X-Mount at the moment.

I'm gathering by the almost overwhelming feedback that the Viltrox Air primes are well worth the cash; the only downside being the lack of WR. Is that about the size of it?

I'm tossing up between a 35m Viltrox and the 35mm Fuji WR (theres one in classifieds at the moment...)
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The Viltrox Air lenses are excellent. Apart from the lack of WR, the other thing to consider is no aperture ring. Didn't bother me, I have it mapped to the front dial, but some people don't like it.
 
bl0at3r said:
Does a leaf shutter and built in ND filter really matter?

Whilst the leaf shutter does ‘sound’ nice, my understanding is that it is really only helpful with flash photography?

An ND filter screwed on the front of a lens is hardly a big effort or cost.
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What matters is finding a camera you want to take pictures with. Its important to bear in mind that features like this are really quality of life things that don't particularly affect the experience; just the end result.

Based on your previous posts it sounds like you're struggling with the hobby. Personally, I'd advise an older body like an X-E3 or X100F so you're not making a huge investment...and keep it. Don't sell it. Have it on the shelf for when you feel like taking pictures; but don't fall into the trap of saying 'i'm done with photography now - time to sell up'.

Always have it as an option available to you; so you can skip the anxiety and hassle of a buy/sell loop.
 
bl0at3r said:
Does a leaf shutter and built in ND filter really matter?

Whilst the leaf shutter does ‘sound’ nice, my understanding is that it is really only helpful with flash photography?

An ND filter screwed on the front of a lens is hardly a big effort or cost.
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Leaf shutter allows high flash sync speeds, but more importantly for cameras like the X100 series, it is near silent and because of less mechanical movements allows sharp images at slower shutter speeds without having to resort to IBIS (though later X100s have IBIS)

Built in ND is useful, but not essential, it does save time faffing about putting on external filters. In the X100 series first and second (X100S) generation it was essential as there is no Electronic Shutter option available and in bright light shooting wide pen it was easy to be unable to get the required shutter speed.
 
Mr Perceptive said:
Leaf shutter allows high flash sync speeds, but more importantly for cameras like the X100 series, it is near silent and because of less mechanical movements allows sharp images at slower shutter speeds without having to resort to IBIS (though later X100s have IBIS)
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There are other complications because increased flash power typically means longer flash duration.

My AD200 displays the flash duration in manual mode.

At full power the flash duration shows as 1/252

At half power the flash durarion shows as 1/925

At quarter power the flash duration shows as 1/1940

(AIUI These durations are only measured against part of the flash curve - not the full time of the curve as it decays).

Some years ago I did some tests with a cheaper flash unit on my Sigma DP3M and the exposure results were variable over 1/500. I didn't have stated flash duration times. But I came to the conclusion that there is an combination issue with flash duration and the actual curve of the flash power and the shutter not instantly opening and closing - plus variations.

I think the general rule that leaf shutters allow higher flash sync speed needs several asterisks and footnotes.

In simple terms operating the flash at full power and increasing the shutter speed will likely get you sync but may get you reduced exposure as only part of the flash power is being utilised as the shutter is open for less time than the flash.

In complex terms there may also be an interaction between the shutter opening and the actual characteristics of the flash where it builds to full power and then drops and how the shutter actually synchronises with that curve.
 
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I think we are all arguing for the early release of a Fuji with global shutter technology!
 
jknights said:
I think we are all arguing for the early release of a Fuji with global shutter technology!
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This doesn't solve the issue of the flash curve and duration.

But it probably does offer the opportunity to match the flash and shutter interaction more accurately - but I suspect that would allow the camera manufacturers to upgrade their own flash systems but still leave those of us using third party flash kit without the same benefits.
 
colourofsound said:
What matters is finding a camera you want to take pictures with. Its important to bear in mind that features like this are really quality of life things that don't particularly affect the experience; just the end result.

Based on your previous posts it sounds like you're struggling with the hobby. Personally, I'd advise an older body like an X-E3 or X100F so you're not making a huge investment...and keep it. Don't sell it. Have it on the shelf for when you feel like taking pictures; but don't fall into the trap of saying 'i'm done with photography now - time to sell up'.

Always have it as an option available to you; so you can skip the anxiety and hassle of a buy/sell loop.
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I am trying to decide whether I really want another X100VI or should go with something else that would likely be a better/more flexible option.

So far the OVF and size still seems to be the stumbling block - and lack of stock availability :rolleyes:

Must keep, must not sell. Got it (y)


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bl0at3r said:
I am trying to decide whether I really want another X100VI or should go with something else that would likely be a better/more flexible option.

So far the OVF and size still seems to be the stumbling block - and lack of stock availability :rolleyes:

Must keep, must not sell. Got it (y)


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In your shoes, I would consider a pre-loved X-Pro2, use it and build up a couple of lens options, then upgrade it to the X-Pro4 when it is released (late 2026/early 2027). Gives you your prefered OVF and more flexible with lens options than an X100VI

I really think you might kick yourself if you buy another brand and then the X-Pro4 is released, as you seem to 'want/need' the OVF
 
bl0at3r said:
I am trying to decide whether I really want another X100VI or should go with something else that would likely be a better/more flexible option.

So far the OVF and size still seems to be the stumbling block - and lack of stock availability :rolleyes:

Must keep, must not sell. Got it (y)


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To echo what David has said, don’t buy new. Get an older body. I love my X100F; I’m one of at least 3 on here that use one. And if OVF size bothers you then an X-Pro 2 sounds like fun.
 
Mr Perceptive said:
In your shoes, I would consider a pre-loved X-Pro2, use it and build up a couple of lens options, then upgrade it to the X-Pro4 when it is released (late 2026/early 2027). Gives you your prefered OVF and more flexible with lens options than an X100VI

I really think you might kick yourself if you buy another brand and then the X-Pro4 is released, as you seem to 'want/need' the OVF
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colourofsound said:
To echo what David has said, don’t buy new. Get an older body. I love my X100F; I’m one of at least 3 on here that use one. And if OVF size bothers you then an X-Pro 2 sounds like fun.
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Thanks for your input.
Any reason you both suggested XPro-2 and not 3?

Got an X-T5 in my basket :cautious:
 
bl0at3r said:
Thanks for your input.
Any reason you both suggested XPro-2 and not 3?

Got an X-T5 in my basket :cautious:
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Its cheaper, 3's carry a bit of premium price considering their age. But don't let me stop you going for a 3 :)

With my proposed plan its glass thats important, so you have the lenses that you want when the 4 is released.

If you are happy with no OVF then its time to checkout that basket...................................
 
bl0at3r said:
Thanks for your input.
Any reason you both suggested XPro-2 and not 3?

Got an X-T5 in my basket :cautious:
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Mr Perceptive said:
Its cheaper, 3's carry a bit of premium price considering their age. But don't let me stop you going for a 3 :)

With my proposed plan its glass thats important, so you have the lenses that you want when the 4 is released.

If you are happy with no OVF then its time to checkout that basket...................................
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...and if you don't like the X-T5, I'll look after it for you until you change your mind again ;)
 
bl0at3r said:
Interested in the smallest e.g. pancake lenses around 35mm FF equivalent - can be Fuji or 3rd party.

What you got/used/recommend/avoid?
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Man buys X100 series camera, uses it for a bit, then sells it

Man repeats buying X100 series camera, uses it for a bit, then sells it

Man buys X-T5 and XF23mm F2.8 effectively replicating previous X100 series cameras, I'll let you fill in the rest...........................



In all seriousness, I would suggest that you consider the latest XF16-50mm zoom, its pretty compact, can be bundled with the X-T5 (to give a decent saving over standalone price), is weather sealed, but more importantly will give you a range of focal lengths to play with, and maybe thats what you need :) - after using it for a bit you may decide that you have a different preferred focal length to that of an X100VI

I used the X100 series camera for years, but I'm really happy with my current two prime (effective) setup, equivalent to 18mm (28mm FF) and 28mm (43mm FF) in the Fuji world. You may find that you actually get on better with an 18mm and a 33mm than the 23mm focal length, using a zoom for a bit will let you know this.
 
colourofsound said:
Fuji’s newest 23mm pancake is a winner
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Thanks. Ah yes, have read this.
Mr Perceptive said:
Man buys X100 series camera, uses it for a bit, then sells it

Man repeats buying X100 series camera, uses it for a bit, then sells it

Man buys X-T5 and XF23mm F2.8 effectively replicating previous X100 series cameras, I'll let you fill in the rest...........................



In all seriousness, I would suggest that you consider the latest XF16-50mm zoom, its pretty compact, can be bundled with the X-T5 (to give a decent saving over standalone price), is weather sealed, but more importantly will give you a range of focal lengths to play with, and maybe thats what you need :) - after using it for a bit you may decide that you have a different preferred focal length to that of an X100VI

I used the X100 series camera for years, but I'm really happy with my current two prime (effective) setup, equivalent to 18mm (28mm FF) and 28mm (43mm FF) in the Fuji world. You may find that you actually get on better with an 18mm and a 33mm than the 23mm focal length, using a zoom for a bit will let you know this.
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The kit 16-50 zoom lens, or actually any zoom lens for that matter, is in danger of making the camera and lens combo too big for me :sneaky: I don’t want to have to take a dedicated camera bag out when I leave the house - I much prefer the every day carry approach.

The X100 (plus keys wallet and phone) fits nicely in my Aer Day Sling 2 -
View: https://youtu.be/tTfOqcHeueg?si=0QwVCN3P9FOtVyDX

I believe the X-T5 with a pancake will also just about fit.

Otherwise we are going down the camera bag rabbit hole.

I’m actually talking myself back into another X100VI as I type this :rolleyes:

The point about buying a camera, using it for a while and then selling it is valid, but it’s not because it was an X100 that I did this. I do it with all ‘things’ that I purchase, and then end up not using - some people just put the item in the back of the cupboard and move onto something else spending more money and leaving whatever is now in the cupboard to depreciate, but I need to release the money from the item before buying something else otherwise it seems like a waste to me. I also can’t stand clutter.
 
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@bl0at3r Keep an eye on the classifieds over the weekend, will be putting my Silver x100vi up for sale. SC 100, Thumb Grip, weather sealing kit, plus a Freewell lens hood kit, plus Hoage square hood, plus grip.
 
bl0at3r said:
Thanks. Ah yes, have read this.


The kit 16-50 zoom lens, or actually any zoom lens for that matter, is in danger of making the camera and lens combo too big for me :sneaky: I don’t want to have to take a dedicated camera bag out when I leave the house - I much prefer the every day carry approach.

The X100 (plus keys wallet and phone) fits nicely in my Aer Day Sling 2 -
View: https://youtu.be/tTfOqcHeueg?si=0QwVCN3P9FOtVyDX

I believe the X-T5 with a pancake will also just about fit.

Otherwise we are going down the camera bag rabbit hole.

I’m actually talking myself back into another X100VI as I type this :rolleyes:

The point about buying a camera, using it for a while and then selling it is valid, but it’s not because it was an X100 that I did this. I do it with all ‘things’ that I purchase, and then end up not using - some people just put the item in the back of the cupboard and move onto something else spending more money and leaving whatever is now in the cupboard to depreciate, but I need to release the money from the item before buying something else otherwise it seems like a waste to me. I also can’t stand clutter.
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I get what you are saying, but if you are going to 'limit' yourself to pancakes, so they fit in your current bag, doesn't that go against ......

bl0at3r said:
I am trying to decide whether I really want another X100VI or should go with something else that would likely be a better/more flexible option.
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"We all" assumed flexible option meant different focal length lenses, limiting yourself to pancakes inevitably means lens around 23-27mm with a few wider options available. Then if the bag is tight for space with an X-T5, there might not be room for extra lenses anyway.

I certainly get the desire for a small bag, though I've found that bags that are a little bigger are inherently more flexible, when it comes to carrying other stuff, water bottle, extra lens, sunglasses, keys, pad/pen etc. Not saying you need a 'camera bag' here but a slightly larger sling might give more options.

I certainly understand the 'clutter', its very easy to end up with too much stuff :) and I like you sell on stuff thats not being used.
 
Now it’s my turn to play ‘which prime?’

I’ve got my X-T5 sorted and a 70-300mm is on the way. So I’m going to chop in my 50-230 to MPB for another lens.

But…which one? In an ideal world I’d get the 16-50mm, but I don’t have that cash.

So…any strong feelings on 23(35)mm vs 35(50)mm? I was leaning toward the 35mm seeing as my X100F has 23mm on it. But…the X-T5 has 40mp to play with and the digital crop…

I’d consider the 27mm but the equiv 40mm has felt restrictive before; a middle ground. But I’m not against it.

So: weather sealed, cheap, compact(ish). Thoughts?
 
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colourofsound said:
So…any strong feelings on 23(35)mm vs 35(50)mm?
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Either of the Fuji f2 WR lenses are very good, compact enough and weather sealed..
On my X-Pro3 the 23mm works fine and crops well enough for me with 26mp, with 40mp it should be absolutely fine, and give you more scope.
 
Order of priorities for me

1 - Optics (Aperture)
2 - Price
3 - Size
4 - Weather sealing. (don't care for it, I never shoot in pouring rain)

Tried the 2.0 prime, they look and feel good but I felt I was leaving something on the table knowing I could get another stop with a different lens. Especially for the 35mm.

I got the Viltrox 27/1.2 and 75/1.2 basically because of these reasons. They are bigger but still smaller than my Sony gear.
 
Viltrox 27mm is a great lens. Crazy sharp at f1.2, and really close focussing. Yeah it`s a bit of a lump, but other than that, etc. etc.
 
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