The Fabulous Fuji X owners thread

I was hoping maybe £2k rather than 2.5k, so I'll not be reaching for the plastic. :rolleyes:

I think many will not be the target market for this camera, its more of an APSC Sony A9 with a load of video functionality, rather than an APSC Sony A7 (X-T4) or an APSC Sony A7RIV (X-H2 40MP version) - its a very different anaimal to the X-H1 which was basically a stills camera with IBIS and some video functionality.

A lot of the price will be in the Stacked Sensor and Processor Costs.

In the £2.5K arena there are a lot of options for a stills photographer including several FF offerings.
 
I think many will not be the target market for this camera, its more of an APSC Sony A9 with a load of video functionality, rather than an APSC Sony A7 (X-T4) or an APSC Sony A7RIV (X-H2 40MP version) - its a very different anaimal to the X-H1 which was basically a stills camera with IBIS and some video functionality.

A lot of the price will be in the Stacked Sensor and Processor Costs.

In the £2.5K arena there are a lot of options for a stills photographer including several FF offerings.

For stills I'd probably still even though its old now just buy an A7R3....
 
A lot of the price will be in the Stacked Sensor and Processor Costs.

In the £2.5K arena there are a lot of options for a stills photographer including several FF offerings.

I was surprised at that headline price. I assumed they would try and hit something like £1849 and leave some sensible headroom for the 40Mp version when it turns up.

My first thought when I looked at it was that it was missing the ISO and shutter speed dials.

And I'm not sure about the change to the joystick arrangement. I like the facility to have the screen facing inwards to protect it - I had that on a previous Sony and miss it.
 
I think many will not be the target market for this camera, its more of an APSC Sony A9 with a load of video functionality, rather than an APSC Sony A7 (X-T4) or an APSC Sony A7RIV (X-H2 40MP version) - its a very different anaimal to the X-H1 which was basically a stills camera with IBIS and some video functionality.

A lot of the price will be in the Stacked Sensor and Processor Costs.

In the £2.5K arena there are a lot of options for a stills photographer including several FF offerings.
Agreed - it's actually quite a specialised camera with a high price point for the average hobbyist. I'm not going to knock it for that, but it probably will push away quite a few users who were waiting to see what an xh1 replacement would look like. I'll admit to being a tad disappointed, but to be fair, I also realise that my feelings mean nothing to Fuji's bottom line
 
Not helpful... :ROFLMAO:

It's what I did, sold X-H1, 16-55, 50-140, 55-200 and some other bits and pieces and bought GFX50S + Tilt EVF + GF45mm and GF30mm, have since added GF63mm - very happy with everything (apart from weight of bag!!) - awesome bit of kit, certainly cured my digital photography GAS :)
 
I'm a huge fan of the GFX50.... and tell me its £2200 refurb is not helpful!

When I bought mine it appeared with a Free Vertical Grip, pronptly sold that to MPB to gain another £135 in my lens fund.. still not helping? :ROFLMAO:

The R version is cheaper still, but the Tiltable EVF option for a landscape photographer is a must, onec used you'll never go back!
 
When I bought mine it appeared with a Free Vertical Grip, pronptly sold that to MPB to gain another £135 in my lens fund.. still not helping? :ROFLMAO:

The R version is cheaper still, but the Tiltable EVF option for a landscape photographer is a must, onec used you'll never go back!

I bought the FUJI GFX50R + GF50 + 35-70 + GF45 all at different times and sold the lot in the end for the Nikon Z7 and a 24-200. This thread has got me thinking I want to change back again now :-) I hate GAS.
 
I bought the FUJI GFX50R + GF50 + 35-70 + GF45 all at different times and sold the lot in the end for the Nikon Z7 and a 24-200. This thread has got me thinking I want to change back again now :) I hate GAS.

IMO the problem with the 50R is that its not easy to love, its a slab of a camera and doesn't have a decent grip, in comparison the 50S is much easier to bond with, its much more like a DSLR. We accept slab cameras when they are small (eg Sony RX100 series, and Fuji X-E series), but when they are large its much harder to get on with them.

I often use the 50S handheld (with a Peak Design Wrist Strap), I deliberatly went for (relatively) lightweight lenses to keep the weight of the package down. In fact any of my lens combinations with the 50S are lighter than the X-H1 + 50-140 and not much more than an X-H1 + 16-55
 
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I was surprised at that headline price. I assumed they would try and hit something like £1849 and leave some sensible headroom for the 40Mp version when it turns up.

My first thought when I looked at it was that it was missing the ISO and shutter speed dials.

And I'm not sure about the change to the joystick arrangement. I like the facility to have the screen facing inwards to protect it - I had that on a previous Sony and miss it.
Rumour sites are suggesting the 40mp version will be cheaper than X-H2s. You are paying the extra in the X-H2s for the specialised video capability and high speed.

I suspect the X-H2 (without the stacked sensor of the X-H2s) will be a more pedestrian landscape/general purpose camera. So maybe we will see it come in at around the £1999 mark.
 
Rumour sites are suggesting the 40mp version will be cheaper than X-H2s. You are paying the extra in the X-H2s for the specialised video capability and high speed.

I suspect the X-H2 (without the stacked sensor of the X-H2s) will be a more pedestrian landscape/general purpose camera. So maybe we will see it come in at around the £1999 mark.
What does a stacked sensor do, as in what difference does it make? I was so looking forward to the new cameras, largely for faster focusing and low light capabilities. I don't do video but if what you say is true, will the H2 have these, or is a stacked sensor the way they are achieved?
 
What does a stacked sensor do, as in what difference does it make? I was so looking forward to the new cameras, largely for faster focusing and low light capabilities. I don't do video but if what you say is true, will the H2 have these, or is a stacked sensor the way they are achieved?
This might help explain
 
Well after watching the Summit, I`ll be sticking with my trusty H1 for a good while yet :fuji:

I'm with you on that one Paul, although as you know at the moment I don't use my Fuji gear very much so I'm not really bothered. My X-H1 is everything I need in APS-C.
 
The problem with the H2s is the price. £2500 can get you a lot of other cameras, possibly even get you into G series territory. A lot of the stuff for the H2s is aimed at the video market, the "standard" H2 maybe be worth looking at if the price is right.

That new 150-600 is sub £2k, which I think, for people like me who like to shoot birds/wildlife, it will definitely be on my Xmas list.
 
H2s seems like a lot of camera and it’ll be interesting to see how it sells. I’m keen to see what will happen down the line with its price. I loved the xh1 but it was pretty much a failure In terms of sales and the af was a generation behind some competitors. Retailers had discounted it by half after 12 months.

The price is going to put off a lot of people. When you think a mint full frame a9 can be acquired for under £2k it’s a hard one. If it was £2k I’d probably have pre ordered it yesterday as I miss those Fuji film sims. But with the size and cost of the new primes too there’s not a big argument to do so.
 
What does a stacked sensor do, as in what difference does it make? I was so looking forward to the new cameras, largely for faster focusing and low light capabilities. I don't do video but if what you say is true, will the H2 have these, or is a stacked sensor the way they are achieved?
I see a link has been posted, but I personally wouldn't expect as good low light capability from the 40mp sensor as you are likely to get from the 26mp sensor. Even with great electronic wizardry, you can't fully compensate for the problem that as resolution increases the photosites get smaller, and noise gets worse. Ho important this is, will depend on how demanding your low light needs are.

If you look at other makes (Full Frame ) the best low light options are around 20mp - 24mp (Sony A7III is 12mp). Even people from Nikon have said that the new 47Mp Z9 can't match the 21mp Nikon D6 for low light capability.

I suspect that Nikon already have a Nikon Z9 "s" in the works that will be a faster more low light capable version of the newly released Z9. They did this before i.e. with the Nikon D3x (25mp) and Nikon D3s (12mp)

"The new Nikon D3s is a low-noise, high performance camera designed for professional news, sports, wildlife and event photographers that need the speed and low noise while working in challenging lighting conditions. The Nikon D3x, on the contrary, is designed for studio and landscape photographers that need the higher resolution for large prints."

 
I'm with you on that one Paul, although as you know at the moment I don't use my Fuji gear very much so I'm not really bothered. My X-H1 is everything I need in APS-C.
Yep, and for what I shoot. I don't need anything more :)
Although I am curious about the 8mm ;)
 
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I see a link has been posted, but I personally wouldn't expect as good low light capability from the 40mp sensor as you are likely to get from the 26mp sensor. Even with great electronic wizardry, you can't fully compensate for the problem that as resolution increases the photosites get smaller, and noise gets worse. Ho important this is, will depend on how demanding your low light needs are.
Thanks for that. I'm not too demanding of any equipment, it's all easy better than me, I'd just like to be able to focus and shoot moving stuff like motocross/grass track on dull wet days and actually get sharp shots and then portraits of moving subjects inside on winter days - both have caused me problems in the past, and neither of them are particularly demanding. My 100-400 seems soo slow to lock on focus at times. My X-H1 is great in every other way so I guess I may be heading to a dealers at some point to try both out..
 
Thanks for that. I'm not too demanding of any equipment, it's all easy better than me, I'd just like to be able to focus and shoot moving stuff like motocross/grass track on dull wet days and actually get sharp shots and then portraits of moving subjects inside on winter days - both have caused me problems in the past, and neither of them are particularly demanding. My 100-400 seems soo slow to lock on focus at times. My X-H1 is great in every other way so I guess I may be heading to a dealers at some point to try both out..
My knowledge of Fuji for this sort of thing is limited, so take this for what its worth, but...

The XH-1 has the same AF as the XT-2, and although it's a comparison with birds and not motor sports, it might be worth looking at this to see how it compares with the current XT-3 and XT-4:


I wouldn't take the results too literally, but it’s a useful resource.

Still on birds, there is a user from "another place" who switched from a Nikon D500 to a Fuji XT-3, with the Fuji 100-400, but has now switched to using an adapted (Fringer adaptor) Nikon 500mm pf on his Fuji XT-3. I've seen a few reports about the Fuji 100-400 being a bit slow for action, but equally, moving to a different system, I've heard that the new Olympus OM1 dramatically improves the speed of the older Panasonic 100 - 400 compared to all previous bodies.

It also works the other way round. On the site I've linked to above, his initial tests on the Nikon Z6 gave very poor results (using a Sigma long zoom) a retest with a Nikon lens lifted the Nikon Z6 up to amongst the best cameras (for AF) he had tested.

For me, sports that aren't stopped because of poor weather is one of the few areas where I think a low resolution FF camera has some real benefits over APS. We will need to wait and see the reviews, but I don't think I would be looking at a 40mp APS sensor for motocross in dull weather. If I didn't want to spend the money on the XH-2s, I would seriously look at an XT-3. I will be surprised (albeit pleasantly) if the new XH-2 (40mp) offers any/much noise advantage over the existing XT-3/4 models, and these newer models should also have better AF than your XH-1.

I've really only paid casual attention to these things for Fuji, but for the use you describe, I would be looking at an XT-3 or XT-4, while I saved up for a XH-2s.

As an aside, I think nearly all cameras struggle with AF in very low light, My D500 does with both my 200-500 and 300mm +x1.4 (both at 5.6) with. a noticeable improvement when I use the 300mm at f4, without the TC. I've also seem comparisons of wildlife in dark woodland where a Sony a9 failed to focus at all and a Nikon D6 (maybe a D5, I can't remember) struggled to grab focus. I can't remember the lenses but they were matched in aperture and focal length.

So, as I said, take what I say with an appropriate amount of scepticism, but hopefully some of it might be useful.
 
I think the 8mm could be quite an interesting lens, though it will be hard(er) work to get interesting shots at that focal length
Yeah I can imagine... Only curious, and it has to be able to focus silly close (for those funky shots). But I am having thoughts on the 10-24, as I like looking up, and sometimes the 16-55 doesn`t got wide enough for me :)
 
Yeah I can imagine... Only curious, and it has to be able to focus silly close (for those funky shots). But I am having thoughts on the 10-24, as I like looking up, and sometimes the 16-55 doesn`t got wide enough for me :)
10-24 (new version) focuses to about 6 inches at 10mm quite close really. (y)
 
My X100v arrived today along with a used official case. OMG I’m struggling with this case! As you probably know it relies upon the camera straps to stop the half case coming off. I’m finding that the case is very loose. Any suggestions for making it more secure other than gorilla glue on the base of my camera
 
I shot some mountain bike racing at the weekend - it was probably the first time since switching to Fuji that I missed my old 1D2 and 70-200f2.8 that I used when I shot a lot of motorsports. I was underwhelmed by the autofocus on my X-T2/55-200, so I think it may be time to upgrade some kit... It was good to be back out shooting sports though.

There were a few photos that I was happy with though:

LRCX6752 by Lewis Craik, on Flickr

LRCX7108 by Lewis Craik, on Flickr
 
Found this capture in my library, taken around 17 months back, it's not our dog but a random dog walker I bumped into whilst out walking our border collie.
Taken with a X-H1, I stupidly sold this camera........but so hanker after another.



Untitled by APM Photography, on Flickr



X-H1 - XF55-200 - @ f/4.4
 
Found this capture in my library, taken around 17 months back, it's not our dog but a random dog walker I bumped into whilst out walking our border collie.
Taken with a X-H1, I stupidly sold this camera........but so hanker after another.



Untitled by APM Photography, on Flickr



X-H1 - XF55-200 - @ f/4.4
Lovely Pete. Hope you sent the owner a copy.
 
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