The Fabulous Fuji X owners thread

mickledore said:
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I should have known that you would know the answer:banana:

Next question...the Hoya filter. Is it designed for B&W? It is rated at 720nm which I think is B&W, but cannot remember exactly:eggface:
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GreenNinja67 said:
You'll get some colour with a 720. Depending on the IR filter over the sensor
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As the post above says, its also quite dark so you'll be shooting long exposures hence the tripod. You could buy an 830nm filter which would give you b/w but the colour filter on the front of the fuji sensor is designed to restrict IR, and the longer the wavelength of the light the more the signal will be attenuated, so on an unmodified camera, with an 830nm filter you will get very long exposure times.

This is shot with a Hoya R72 on a Fuji (X-E2) - converted to mono


dutton_horse_bridge_sm by David Yeoman, on Flickr
 
OK. Got that.
Been thinking of selling the 40D for some time. Wonder what it's worth? Probably not a lot!
 
I was going to go that cheaper alternative way however through research the shutter times are incredibly longer than with a converted DSLR plus you can't use live view to get it right. Or is this misinformation? I'd be interested in hearing timescales and set up of your average photo with the Hoya IR filters to make a better educated decision. This could mean my 70D IR might go up for sale :)
 
YoshiK1 said:
I was going to go that cheaper alternative way however through research the shutter times are incredibly longer than with a converted DSLR plus you can't use live view to get it right. Or is this misinformation? I'd be interested in hearing timescales and set up of your average photo with the Hoya IR filters to make a better educated decision. This could mean my 70D IR might go up for sale :)
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Of course on the Fuji you can use Live View, thats all you have!!! (EVF all the time). That shot was 18 seconds at F11 ISO 200 (taken in March so not a lot of bright light), but you are right exposure times are longer, and typically over a second, so handheld is out, unless you really bump the ISO. I've had a converted X-E1 (830nm) and that you could use handheld. The R72 isn't for handheld IMO.

The other thing with Fuji is the limited lens availability without hotspots, the best two for IR are the 14mm and 18-135mm, unless you have those I'd stay away from IR on the Fuji, though some have had limited success with the 10-24 and some of the mewer F2 primes.
 
I'm going all Fuji, trying to sell all my Nikon FX body and lens at the moment. Planning to add 2 lens to my collection and keep the cash. Adding the 56mm f1.2 prime and a long zoom. Not sure do i want the smaller lighter option like the 55-200 or the 50-140mm f2.8? What do you guys think.

One of my nikon lens i'm selling is the 70-200 f2.8 VR1.
 
If you used the 70-200 wide open a lot, you might miss the f/2.8 shallow DoF. Otherwise just rack the ISO up a bit and save a few quid!
 
I realised this week i can't go Fuji as a profession set up, and it is one of its design quirks that limits me, it is the all dials at the top.

With my 5D I can stick my left hand in my pocket, camera in right hand in the eye and I can change everything from ISO, Aperture, Drive mode, exposure compensation without taking my eye off away from the viewfinder.

The Fuji is a hold camera with left hand and twist knob with right hand process, It's just no good when I need it changed in a split second.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I realised this week i can't go Fuji as a profession set up, and it is one of its design quirks that limits me, it is the all dials at the top.

With my 5D I can stick my left hand in my pocket, camera in right hand in the eye and I can change everything from ISO, Aperture, Drive mode, exposure compensation without taking my eye off away from the viewfinder.

The Fuji is a hold camera with left hand and twist knob with right hand process, It's just no good when I need it changed in a split second.
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Sounds like a familiarity / muscle memory thing to me. Or you're just too lazy to use two hands ;)
 
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Raymond Lin said:
I realised this week i can't go Fuji as a profession set up, and it is one of its design quirks that limits me, it is the all dials at the top.

With my 5D I can stick my left hand in my pocket, camera in right hand in the eye and I can change everything from ISO, Aperture, Drive mode, exposure compensation without taking my eye off away from the viewfinder.

The Fuji is a hold camera with left hand and twist knob with right hand process, It's just no good when I need it changed in a split second.
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I wonder how all of us oldies managed then? Oh yes, we were taught to hold a camera steady with both hands. :D
 
Raymond Lin said:
I realised this week i can't go Fuji as a profession set up, and it is one of its design quirks that limits me, it is the all dials at the top.

With my 5D I can stick my left hand in my pocket, camera in right hand in the eye and I can change everything from ISO, Aperture, Drive mode, exposure compensation without taking my eye off away from the viewfinder.

The Fuji is a hold camera with left hand and twist knob with right hand process, It's just no good when I need it changed in a split second.
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Take left hand out of pocket??
 
It's not about habit, it is you NEED 2 hand to change settings. Even if i am used to it, I still need 2 hands, the process require 2 hands.

Try this, put the camera to your face and change the ISO without taking your eyes from the EVF. with left hand holding another body.

If you can do that within 1 second without losing grip/dropping the camera I take my hat off to you sir.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
It's not about habit, it is you NEED 2 hand to change settings.

Try this, put the camera to your face and change the ISO without taking your eyes from the EVF. with left hand holding another body.

If you can do that within 1 second without losing grip I take my hat off.
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My ISO is set following a test shot or two and left as is or I use auto iso.

As has been said, just use two hands? (your HABIT being that you only use one)
 
bumper said:
If his right hand is twisting a knob, what's the left hand in doing in his pocket :naughty:
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Holding my other camera/tripod/bag/lens.

It's not about what it is doing, it is about if I can and not missing a shot. The point is I need to remove as much obstacles as I can, speed up the process as much as I can. The Fuji, as nice as it is, the design of the camera lean itself to this slower process of changing settings.
 
Ian W said:
My ISO is set following a test shot or two and left as is or I use auto iso.

As has been said, just use two hands? (your HABIT being that you only use one)
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The habit is I hold the camera with the other hand, I do use 2 hands, the POINT is I can do it with one, if the scenario arises.
 
Raymond Lin said:
The habit is I hold the camera with the other hand, I do use 2 hands, the POINT is I can do it with one, if the scenario arises.
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Does this scenario present itself often? With a second lens or something else in your other hand? (It was in your pocket a half hour ago [emoji1])
 
Raymond Lin said:
It's not about habit, it is you NEED 2 hand to change settings. Even if i am used to it, I still need 2 hands, the process require 2 hands.

Try this, put the camera to your face and change the ISO without taking your eyes from the EVF. with left hand holding another body.

If you can do that within 1 second without losing grip/dropping the camera I take my hat off to you sir.
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You can set the front command wheel to change ISO with latest firmware update. (X-T2)
 
Ian W said:
Does this scenario present itself often? With a second lens or something else in your other hand? (It was in your pocket a half hour ago [emoji1])
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It's not about presenting itself often, it is like "how often does my cameras break?" Why do I need a back up?

How often do I need to shoot with 1 hand? Why do I need to shoot with 1 hand?

I need to minimise every scenario where it could hinder my shooting, picking a camera that by its very own design hinders my shooting is not logical.
 
Raymond Lin said:
It's not about presenting itself often, it is like "how often does my cameras break?" Why do I need a back up?

How often do I need to shoot with 1 hand? Why do I need to shoot with 1 hand?

I need to minimise every scenario where it could hinder my shooting, picking a camera that by its very own design hinders my shooting is not logical.
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Easy, Spock! [emoji6]

I don't mind which camera you use, just looking to see whether this is a logical reason to discount the Fuji.

Is it really that much easier to do in one hand with the Canon?
 
Don't get me wrong, the experience of using the Fuji is fantastic, but in a work scenario, the body that I need is one that gets the job done in the best and smoothest way possible. I feel Fuji's design is just a little too cumbersome in terms of speed.
 
Ian W said:
Easy, Spock! [emoji6]

I don't mind which camera you use, just looking to see whether this is a logical reason to discount the Fuji.

Is it really that much easier to do in one hand with the Canon?
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I am used to Canon's UI, but changing things like Exposure compensation for example is half press shutter, then use the thumb turning the dial at the back. It's like a flick and I've change exposure by 3 stops. I can change the exposure comp without taking my eye from the EVF on the fuji but my index finger is away from the shutter button, okay fine, its not that far away....but there is a lag between turning and the needle moving...weird. Tiny things like that.

I know the Fuji is not in the same league of a camera 2.5x its cost, but small things like that would bug me in the moment when every second counts and if i had to wait half a second for that needle to catch up then that's half my shooting moment gone.

The stuff I shoot are moments, its what i like to do, which is where i am coming from so if you shoot a lot of landscapes this obviously doesn't apply to you. Often I need to change settings in split seconds, even if I know want to do I feel like the fuji is a slower process.
 
There are plenty of ways to convince yourself that a camera system is not for you, loads of contributors on these forums can attest to this.

There are also plenty of Pro's out there shooting with Fuji's.

There is no perfect camera for every scenario.

No-one is right, no-one is wrong, we just all like different things, and if operating the camera one-handed is a mandatory requirement for Raymond, then that's that.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I am used to Canon's UI, but changing things like Exposure compensation for example is half press shutter, then use the thumb turning the dial at the back. It's like a flick and I've change exposure by 3 stops. I can change the exposure comp without taking my eye from the EVF on the fuji but my index finger is away from the shutter button, okay fine, its not that far away....but there is a lag between turning and the needle moving...weird. Tiny things like that.

I know the Fuji is not in the same league of a camera 2.5x its cost, but small things like that would bug me in the moment when every second counts and if i had to wait half a second for that needle to catch up then that's half my shooting moment gone.

The stuff I shoot are moments, its what i like to do, which is where i am coming from so if you shoot a lot of landscapes this obviously doesn't apply to you. Often I need to change settings in split seconds, even if I know want to do I feel like the fuji is a slower process.
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Fair enough. What is it you shoot out of interest?
 
Mr Perceptive said:
There are plenty of ways to convince yourself that a camera system is not for you, loads of contributors on these forums can attest to this.

There are also plenty of Pro's out there shooting with Fuji's.

There is no perfect camera for every scenario.

No-one is right, no-one is wrong, we just all like different things, and if operating the camera one-handed is a mandatory requirement for Raymond, then that's that.
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Yes Sir. right Sir. Doffs cap and genuflects, Sir.
Exit stage left.
(P.S. Any more thoughts on these millstones? I've got an appointment next Thursday about my knee. Going private under NHS so things could move quickly. Then I might be out of commission for a while)
 
mickledore said:
Yes Sir. right Sir. Doffs cap and genuflects, Sir.
Exit stage left.
(P.S. Any more thoughts on these millstones? I've got an appointment next Thursday about my knee. Going private under NHS so things could move quickly. Then I might be out of commission for a while)
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Wont be until last week of April at earliest, all over the place next week chasing work.......
 
Ian W said:
Best of luck with the Canon then, Raymond [emoji106] [emoji4]
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I am doing okay with it :)

The Fuji has always been my intention as my travel camera, my toy. The Canon being my work tool.

But having them both and using both does make me realise I won't be switching, should the question arises. Unless the UI in the Fuji changes.
 
mickledore said:
Yes Sir. right Sir. Doffs cap and genuflects, Sir.
Exit stage left.
(P.S. Any more thoughts on these millstones? I've got an appointment next Thursday about my knee. Going private under NHS so things could move quickly. Then I might be out of commission for a while)
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Best of luck getting the knee fixed, I have just had an op on Achilles followed by 3 weeks in full leg plaster and now another 5 to 6 weeks of half leg plaster, not much fun.:(
 
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