Has anyone here got the peak design Sony lens kit v2 lying around in a draw unused? I'm looking to pick one up: https://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/peak-design-lens-kit-v2-sony-fe.765656/
I don't think there's any issue using Sony TC's on APS-C, AFAIK it's just third party TC's you can't use on any Sony mirrorless.Price though can’t stretch my pension that far, didn’t think you can use a tc on e.mount crop bodies ?
Very interested to hear how you get on with the 70-350 on your A6700 (assuming you will get it) - I'm still dithering over whether to upgrade(?) from my RX10iv to that combination but can't quite convince myself as yet...Camera arrived this afternoon,set it up for photos so far , think I’ve got it right ? Video can wait for a while .. will take my time sorting out which lens to get next ,probably be the 70-350 but also looked at some of the Tamron ones 70-300 etc .
Think the 200-600 is pushing it though price and weight wise , I’m still keeping the Olympus and 300 f4 + tc that gives a effective 840mm reach with bird I.d , so really need to get near that if possible any reasonable priced suggestions.?
Your in the same boat as me Mike you would be coming from 600mm reach to 500 ,mines from 840 to 500 . But if the tc works ?? On a 70-350 it pushes the boundaries . Never used the rx10 so don’t know about the a.f but this eye tracking on the a6700 is insane it grabs instantly and sticks like glueVery interested to hear how you get on with the 70-350 on your A6700 (assuming you will get it) - I'm still dithering over whether to upgrade(?) from my RX10iv to that combination but can't quite convince myself as yet...
I think the TCs are compatible with the A6700, but not the 70-350 lens. There's only a select few lenses that are - effectively white lenses only I thinkYour in the same boat as me Mike you would be coming from 600mm reach to 500 ,mines from 840 to 500 . But if the tc works ?? On a 70-350 it pushes the boundaries . Never used the rx10 so don’t know about the a.f but this eye tracking on the a6700 is insane it grabs instantly and sticks like glue
Yep just checked not compatible, will only work on the 100-400 white lens, saying that Olympus are the same t.c use limitedI think the TCs are compatible with the A6700, but not the 70-350 lens. There's only a select few lenses that are - effectively white lenses only I think
The af on the RX10iv is good but by all accounts the A6700 is next level and I'd hope for a much higher percentage of keepers.Your in the same boat as me Mike you would be coming from 600mm reach to 500 ,mines from 840 to 500 . But if the tc works ?? On a 70-350 it pushes the boundaries . Never used the rx10 so don’t know about the a.f but this eye tracking on the a6700 is insane it grabs instantly and sticks like glue
I would have thought the A6700 and 70-350mm would give a noticeable improvement over the RX10iv in both AF and IQ, and it’s only a few grams heavier.The af on the RX10iv is good but by all accounts the A6700 is next level and I'd hope for a much higher percentage of keepers.
Coming down from 600mm to 525mm is probably not that big a deal for me as cropping 26MP (A6700) down to 20MP (RX10iv) would give an effective focal length > 600mm I think and the APS-C sensor will have bigger/better pixels.
I'm not great on the technicalities (as you can tell!) but I think I'd be a bit better off, the main thing being the fancy af.
I found this interesting:View: https://youtu.be/pM4Cm9x5gGo?si=JrAoiywSbVNzVR40
Thanks Toby. Yes you may well be right, I just need to pluck up courage and give the piggy bank a rattle before I commit. It does feel like I'll end up doing it at some point as the RX10 line seems to be ending with the Mk4...I would have thought the A6700 and 70-350mm would give a noticeable improvement over the RX10iv in both AF and IQ, and it’s only a few grams heavier.
Camera arrived this afternoon,set it up for photos so far , think I’ve got it right ? Video can wait for a while .. will take my time sorting out which lens to get next ,probably be the 70-350 but also looked at some of the Tamron ones 70-300 etc .
Think the 200-600 is pushing it though price and weight wise , I’m still keeping the Olympus and 300 f4 + tc that gives a effective 840mm reach with bird I.d , so really need to get near that if possible any reasonable priced suggestions.?
Barn Owl by robb d, on Flickr
Kingfisher by robb d, on Flickr
Fox by robb d, on FlickrCan you not go to a store with your RX10 and compare it with the A6700 and 70-350mm and see how much difference there is before commiting?Thanks Toby. Yes you may well be right, I just need to pluck up courage and give the piggy bank a rattle before I commit. It does feel like I'll end up doing it at some point as the RX10 line seems to be ending with the Mk4...
Cheers rob I wasn’t aware you could use other brands on the Sony and retain a.f ..looks like I need a bit more studying before I bite any bulletsI used the canon version of the Sigma 150-600 c with the mc 11 adaptor on the a6400 worked really well , also used a canon 400 f5.6 Prime as well on a Sony a7iv , works ok but not perfect may be better on the A6700. the canon is very light and still one of the Sharpest lens out there. you can pick them up for about 4 to 5 hundred and you can use the sigma 1.4 tc with them
this was taken with the canon 400
Barn Owl by robb d, on Flickr
this was with the canon and the sigma 1.4tc
Kingfisher by robb d, on Flickr
this was the a6400. with the sigma 150-600
Fox by robb d, on Flickr
Mike I have gone for this due to the fancy AF ,I was stunned yesterday by how good it really is .the Olympus bird I.d is good but this is another dimension. And it even has insect I.d if that works o.k then all bets are offThe af on the RX10iv is good but by all accounts the A6700 is next level and I'd hope for a much higher percentage of keepers.
Coming down from 600mm to 525mm is probably not that big a deal for me as cropping 26MP (A6700) down to 20MP (RX10iv) would give an effective focal length > 600mm I think and the APS-C sensor will have bigger/better pixels.
I'm not great on the technicalities (as you can tell!) but I think I'd be a bit better off, the main thing being the fancy af.
I found this interesting:View: https://youtu.be/pM4Cm9x5gGo?si=JrAoiywSbVNzVR40
Hmm well my current kit is:Can you not go to a store with your RX10 and compare it with the A6700 and 70-350mm and see how much difference there is before commiting?

Thanks Jeff, that is helping me make my mind up as I do like to shoot macro and am also interested in the focus bracketting on the A6700Mike I have gone for this due to the fancy AF ,I was stunned yesterday by how good it really is .the Olympus bird I.d is good but this is another dimension. And it even has insect I.d if that works o.k then all bets are off
I would have thought the A6700 and 70-350mm would give a noticeable improvement over the RX10iv in both AF and IQ, and it’s only a few grams heavier.
I should add that sigma now make a dedicated sony mount 150-600 same weight more or less but its called a sport,Cheers rob I wasn’t aware you could use other brands on the Sony and retain a.f ..looks like I need a bit more studying before I bite any bullets
2.1kg is pretty weighty though. I know it’s a similar weight to the Sony 200-600mm but it’s certainly a lot heavier than the Olly 300mm f4.I should add that sigma now make a dedicated sony mount 150-600 same weight more or less but its called a sport,
just been looking through Flickr and mike Stephens shots came up taken with a a6600-and sony 70-350 quite impressive I I believe he is on here as well ? looked at both Tamron and sigma 400mm max zooms and although both give a 50mm (75mm) more reach I think the i.q doesn't match the sony .quite a few used 70-350 on evil bay but virtually the same price as a new one from cotswold cameras so we shall see . still looking but getting near to decision time.. the camera plus either sigma or Tamron come in at about the same weight as the om1+100-400 whereas the 70-350 is considerably lighterThanks Toby. Yes you may well be right, I just need to pluck up courage and give the piggy bank a rattle before I commit. It does feel like I'll end up doing it at some point as the RX10 line seems to be ending with the Mk4...
What about the sigma 100-400mm, DG DN OS? Gets great reviews, 'only' 1.1kg and can be had used like new for £644 at MBP?this is my main problem the whole reason for buying is both the A.F and the weight factor age and health issues make that a priority .. and one of my main reasons for going down the olympus path in the first place .. at this moment in time it looks like the 70-350 is the only viable alternative .I may at a later date add a sony 200-600 for tripod use but that's still a large chunk of money as well
willow by jeff cohen, on Flickr
mother and son by jeff cohen, on Flickryep seen them toby tamron weighs 1135 grams , sigma slightly more whereas the sony only weighs in at 625 grams around half the weight for slightly less reach and a lower price ,im trying to equate reach with flexibility as I rapidly approach 80 with various health issues to plus its for the wife to use as well .What about the sigma 100-400mm, DG DN OS? Gets great reviews, 'only' 1.1kg and can be had used like new for £644 at MBP?
These are great Jeff! The high iso performance looks light years ahead of the RX10 anyway - I’ve never used a photo above iso1600 on the RX even with Topaz applied…couple of starter shots from today just dog sitting for a few hours while daughter has some work done first one at 12800iso second at 5000 iso natural light ,hand held. animal eye i.d
willow by jeff cohen, on Flickr
mother and son by jeff cohen, on Flickr
Yeah just did them in Lightroom with standard LR de.noise applied , good level of detail in them to … still exploring the camera settings so I’m quite sure this can be improved on given time ,, need to figure out the video side of things to ?. Just put some of my Olympus four thirds lenses on evil bay if they sell it will give me a big lift into a big zoom .. watched a u.tube vid earlier where the guy was using this camera hand held with a Sony 200-600 an£ he couldn’t hold it on target , so that’s off the wish listThese are great Jeff! The high iso performance looks light years ahead of the RX10 anyway - I’ve never used a photo above iso1600 on the RX even with Topaz applied…
If I was going to a longer zoom than the 70-350 I'd have the Tamron 50-400 as it's comparatively light (at least compared to the other 400mm lenses), it's sharp, not too pricey and you can get a decent macro out of it I believe.Yeah just did them in Lightroom with standard LR de.noise applied , good level of detail in them to … still exploring the camera settings so I’m quite sure this can be improved on given time ,, need to figure out the video side of things to ?. Just put some of my Olympus four thirds lenses on evil bay if they sell it will give me a big lift into a big zoom .. watched a u.tube vid earlier where the guy was using this camera hand held with a Sony 200-600 an£ he couldn’t hold it on target , so that’s off the wish list
The 200-600 is a relatively heavy lens, a monopod is useful, especially with a monopod gimbal head. But for the reach it has - and the ability to zoom - it's hard to beat at it's price.Yeah just did them in Lightroom with standard LR de.noise applied , good level of detail in them to … still exploring the camera settings so I’m quite sure this can be improved on given time ,, need to figure out the video side of things to ?. Just put some of my Olympus four thirds lenses on evil bay if they sell it will give me a big lift into a big zoom .. watched a u.tube vid earlier where the guy was using this camera hand held with a Sony 200-600 an£ he couldn’t hold it on target , so that’s off the wish list
I'm probably going to put my tammy up for sale soon I think. It's a great lens but having the 300GM probably replaces it even when travelling light. especially with the 28-200.If I was going to a longer zoom than the 70-350 I'd have the Tamron 50-400 as it's comparatively light (at least compared to the other 400mm lenses), it's sharp, not too pricey and you can get a decent macro out of it I believe.
note my comments above re-weight tamron or sigma both around 1135 grams and sony 70-350 @ 625 grams . no probs if your young fit and healthy , but not when your nearly 80 with heart ,back and other issuesI'm probably going to put my tammy up for sale soon I think. It's a great lens but having the 300GM probably replaces it even when travelling light. especially with the 28-200.
Only reason I might keep it is it shares the same 67mm filters so potentially better hiking / landscape compliment. It's also great for infrared photography
As we've been talking a lot about weight saving recently, I'm off to Goodwood FoS again this year and I'd like to reduce the weight of my bag. Last time I went I took the A1 (737g), 70-200mm f2.8 GM II (1045g), 35mm f1.8 (280g) and Samyang 50mm f1.4 FE II (420g), Total weight 2482g
This year if weight wasn't an issue I'd take my A1 (737g) and A7RV (723g), the 70-200mm f2.8 GM II (1045g), 35mm f1.4 GM (524g) and 50mm f1.2 GM (778g): Total weight 3807g
Ideally I would like to take two bodies as swapping between the primes in the paddock etc was a bit of a faff so I'm looking at lenses that could save weight. I'm thinking that buying smartly and selling again would be cheaper than renting so I'm considering the Tamron 70-300mm (545g) instead of the 70-200mm f2.8, and the Samyang 45mm f1.8 (162g) instead of the 50mm f1.2. My thoughts are that as the tele is only being used for panning shots I doubt I'd see much difference in IQ, and of course DOF isn't really an issue as the background and foreground wil be blurred anyway. The Samyang 45mm can't compete with the 50mm f1.2 however the shots I took with my old copy are still nice.
The A1, A7RV, Tamron 70-300mm, Sony 35mm f1.4 GM and Samyang 45mm f1.8 come to a weight of 2691g so if I want to save weight over the last time I'd need to ditch the A7RV making it 1968g
Am I mad for making such compromises, especially as it will likely cost money buying and selling lenses? Trouble is I don't think the A1, A7RV, 70-200mm, 35mm f1.4 and 50mm f1.2 will all fit in my sling bag which would mean taking my back pack which I really don't want to be doing.
Proper first world problems and all that![]()
As we've been talking a lot about weight saving recently, I'm off to Goodwood FoS again this year and I'd like to reduce the weight of my bag. Last time I went I took the A1 (737g), 70-200mm f2.8 GM II (1045g), 35mm f1.8 (280g) and Samyang 50mm f1.4 FE II (420g), Total weight 2482g
This year if weight wasn't an issue I'd take my A1 (737g) and A7RV (723g), the 70-200mm f2.8 GM II (1045g), 35mm f1.4 GM (524g) and 50mm f1.2 GM (778g): Total weight 3807g
Ideally I would like to take two bodies as swapping between the primes in the paddock etc was a bit of a faff so I'm looking at lenses that could save weight. I'm thinking that buying smartly and selling again would be cheaper than renting so I'm considering the Tamron 70-300mm (545g) instead of the 70-200mm f2.8, and the Samyang 45mm f1.8 (162g) instead of the 50mm f1.2. My thoughts are that as the tele is only being used for panning shots I doubt I'd see much difference in IQ, and of course DOF isn't really an issue as the background and foreground wil be blurred anyway. The Samyang 45mm can't compete with the 50mm f1.2 however the shots I took with my old copy are still nice.
The A1, A7RV, Tamron 70-300mm, Sony 35mm f1.4 GM and Samyang 45mm f1.8 come to a weight of 2691g so if I want to save weight over the last time I'd need to ditch the A7RV making it 1968g
Am I mad for making such compromises, especially as it will likely cost money buying and selling lenses? Trouble is I don't think the A1, A7RV, 70-200mm, 35mm f1.4 and 50mm f1.2 will all fit in my sling bag which would mean taking my back pack which I really don't want to be doing.
Proper first world problems and all that![]()
Depends on you sling bag i guessAs we've been talking a lot about weight saving recently, I'm off to Goodwood FoS again this year and I'd like to reduce the weight of my bag. Last time I went I took the A1 (737g), 70-200mm f2.8 GM II (1045g), 35mm f1.8 (280g) and Samyang 50mm f1.4 FE II (420g), Total weight 2482g
This year if weight wasn't an issue I'd take my A1 (737g) and A7RV (723g), the 70-200mm f2.8 GM II (1045g), 35mm f1.4 GM (524g) and 50mm f1.2 GM (778g): Total weight 3807g
Ideally I would like to take two bodies as swapping between the primes in the paddock etc was a bit of a faff so I'm looking at lenses that could save weight. I'm thinking that buying smartly and selling again would be cheaper than renting so I'm considering the Tamron 70-300mm (545g) instead of the 70-200mm f2.8, and the Samyang 45mm f1.8 (162g) instead of the 50mm f1.2. My thoughts are that as the tele is only being used for panning shots I doubt I'd see much difference in IQ, and of course DOF isn't really an issue as the background and foreground wil be blurred anyway. The Samyang 45mm can't compete with the 50mm f1.2 however the shots I took with my old copy are still nice.
The A1, A7RV, Tamron 70-300mm, Sony 35mm f1.4 GM and Samyang 45mm f1.8 come to a weight of 2691g so if I want to save weight over the last time I'd need to ditch the A7RV making it 1968g
Am I mad for making such compromises, especially as it will likely cost money buying and selling lenses? Trouble is I don't think the A1, A7RV, 70-200mm, 35mm f1.4 and 50mm f1.2 will all fit in my sling bag which would mean taking my back pack which I really don't want to be doing.
Proper first world problems and all that![]()
I have APS-C set to a button already, and I guess there's not that much difference between a 45mm f1.8 and 52.5mm f2 (equivalent)A1 & Tamron 70-300mm and A7Rv & 35GM (with a function button set to one touch switch APSC and back again)![]()
I get what you're saying, but I don't want the hassle of carrying the heavy (reatively speaking) gear around to spoil the enjoyment of the weekend. I don't think I'll see any difference in IQ between the 70-200mm f2.8 and Tamron 70-300mm though for the panning shots as I mentioned above. The shots with primes I'll likely see more of a difference, but it's not as though they're going to be award winning shots anywayToby, there is a once seen never unseen issue here, the GM lenses are stellar lenses, and you know that if you 'slummed it' with the Samyang/Tamron there will also be the nagging doubt that the GM shot would be better.
You could drop one of the GM primes but that does depend on how much space you have to work with in the paddock, as IMO car shots look tight at 50mm and can look a bit off at 35mm
The gear doesn't all have to fit into your sling bag, you could take the option of carrying one body/one lens and keeping the rest in the bag, then swap as required.
Typically I lap the paddock/infield at Oulton with one body/lens and then swap and repeat the lap (often using my parked car on the in-field as a camera bag), but the Goodwood events are so large I don't think you will have that luxury.
I know I haven't helped.................but given that my last camera purchase the body weighs 4.5kg (before lenses) and I've dragged it around Dinorwig quarry, I think that you should just take the best gear, and sort out a carrying system to distribute the weight best.
I have a 10l Tenba Solstice and it fitted the A1, 70-200mm, 35mm f1.8 and Samyang 50mm f1.4 last time, but it was pretty tight at that IIRC.Depends on you sling bag i guess
In my PD sling 10l, I can fit, A7RV, 20-70, 70-200mm F4 Gii, 1.4x and a prime like 35GM.
Could easily swap the 20-70mm with 50/1.2.
I guess the issue then is the second body....
Just hang it on the side using a PD capture clip![]()
I get what you're saying, but I don't want the hassle of carrying the heavy (reatively speaking) gear around to spoil the enjoyment of the weekend. I don't think I'll see any difference in IQ between the 70-200mm f2.8 and Tamron 70-300mm though for the panning shots as I mentioned above. The shots with primes I'll likely see more of a difference, but it's not as though they're going to be award winning shots anyway![]()
I'm getting less FOMO these days, plus this is an event I'm going to with my wife so it won't be as photography orientated as when I go to race events at Silverstone and Donington etcBut when you get the chance of a driver shot in the paddock or a helmet on top of a car you might miss the 70-200!!! I don't envy the weight, for a long day in a busy environment, and I would probably just go two bodies and two lenses and live with missing the odd shot but the FOMO may be strong with you..........
I'm getting less FOMO these days, plus this is an event I'm going to with my wife so it won't be as photography orientated as when I go to race events at Silverstone and Donington etc![]()