The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

trevorbray said:
Magic mate.
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gilbouk said:
Stunning detail with such a wide aperture too. Did you crop the first one significantly?
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Thanks guys, the first two are over 1:1 crops and run through gigapixel to increase the resolution to something usable, the last is almost a 1:1 crop, this is why DOF is relatively big as you can't get 'that' close with the 50mm.. The insects were max 10mm and obviously the magnification of the 50mm f1.2 isn't the greatest. Good fun though, made me fancy a macro lens again :facepalm:
 
snerkler said:
Thanks guys, the first two are over 1:1 crops and run through gigapixel to increase the resolution to something usable, the last is almost a 1:1 crop, this is why DOF is relatively big as you can't get 'that' close with the 50mm.. The insects were max 10mm and obviously the magnification of the 50mm f1.2 isn't the greatest. Good fun though, made me fancy a macro lens again :facepalm:
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90G next then...... :)
 
woof woof said:
So


Some close up filters might be fun and they're cheap :D
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I’ve got a raynox somewhere, but I think it’ll only work with the 24-70mm as all my other lenses have too big a filter size, I ought to dig it out.
 
snerkler said:
I like the look of the Laowa lenses with the 2x magnification, although I bet the DOF is a pain to work with ;)
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I'm not really a 'macro' guy but sometimes close ups, yeah. The Tamron 70-180mm so far has got me pretty close for what I want/need so..... A dedicated macro is just something I don't really need. I do think it opens up a lot of opportunity though for shooting!
 
LeeRatters said:
I'm not really a 'macro' guy but sometimes close ups, yeah. The Tamron 70-180mm so far has got me pretty close for what I want/need so..... A dedicated macro is just something I don't really need. I do think it opens up a lot of opportunity though for shooting!
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I doubt I’ll get one, one of those things that gets used for a while then get fed up with ;)
 
snerkler said:
I’ve got a raynox somewhere, but I think it’ll only work with the 24-70mm as all my other lenses have too big a filter size, I ought to dig it out.
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I bought 67mm close up filters as that's bigger than most of my lenses, I use cheap step up rings. For eg the set up I used the other day needed a 43-67mm step up ring.
 
A7RV sensor praise...

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The Sony A7R V is the latest iteration of high-resolution R series A7 full-frame mirrorless models, featuring a 61MP BSI CMOS sensor.
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"As the latest iteration, the Sony A7R V has too many improvements to list here, but even looking at the headline features, the fifth-generation model with its new AF system and improved sensor shift is certainly a potent and hugely capable camera. The adoption of the same full-frame 61.2 MP BSI CMOS sensor as its predecessor however wasn’t entirely unexpected. While there are a few differences in the sensor output in terms of color depth and dynamic range at various ISO settings, the modifications are marginal. At $3,899/€ 4,500 body only, the price has crept upwards from the Sony A7R IV at launch, but that’s not unexpected in these turbulent times. As the most refined and accomplished in the series, the Sony A7R V model remains a compelling choice at this level."
 
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f/2.8 said:
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I do find the screen on the A7IV annoying but everyone will be different. A9II is probably your best bet tbh will save loads of time in post as well as all of the bodies handle W.B differently. Just my opinion but for me the A7IV a.f isn't as reliable as the A9 or A9II either.
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Compared to my A6000, which has the old semi-tilting screen, I much prefer the one on the A7iv in terms of flexibility.

My standard is to set it facing inwards, and just use the EVF, then I fold it out for the times I want to use it, which is either just flat for making a bunch of settings changes, or out and twisted to a particular angle for a high or low shot - when the increased range of motion is an advantage.
 
I had a disaster today... I attempted to make some bread but the dough didn't rise at all so I tried a different pot of yeast and got the same result so I binned the lot and then cheered myself up by deciding to walk to the shops to buy some ready made bread.

Walking to the shops with Mrs WW and my A7 and Pergear 35mm f1.4.

This is at f1.4. Action shot at f1.4! Well, as action shot as I do, Mrs WW walking.

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This lens isn't as sharp as my Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 at f1.4 but it's sharp enough. Issues are a touch of vignetting and some distortion but on the plus side I think there's less ca than with the Voigtlander and the bokeh at f1.4 might be a little less wild with complex scenes. It is IMO an amazing lens for the price, £105 to £119 depending on where you buy.
 
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woof woof said:
I had a disaster today... I attempted to make some bread but the dough didn't rise at all so I tried a different pot of yeast and got the same result so I binned the lot and then cheered myself up by deciding to walk to the shops to buy some ready made bread.
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Hate it when that happens, I make my own pizza dough and there's noting worse than having no rise in your balls.
 
snerkler said:
I like the look of the Laowa lenses with the 2x magnification, although I bet the DOF is a pain to work with ;)
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I have one in Canon EF mount (bought that one rather than the RF mount so I could also use it on my Sony with the adapter)

Quite pleasing results on the a9, not had much chance to try it yet but the DOF is a right pain.


Fly by Mike Pursey, on Flickr


Flower by Mike Pursey, on Flickr
 
I used to love insect macro photography - here’s my macro setup from about 2005.
A 1:1 macro lens, full extension tubes and a macro flash light. Depth of field was about 2mm at F16 :runaway:

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Faldrax said:
Compared to my A6000, which has the old semi-tilting screen, I much prefer the one on the A7iv in terms of flexibility.

My standard is to set it facing inwards, and just use the EVF, then I fold it out for the times I want to use it, which is either just flat for making a bunch of settings changes, or out and twisted to a particular angle for a high or low shot - when the increased range of motion is an advantage.
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That is why I said "I find it annoying but everyone will be different"

Personally I think flippy screens are total garbage.
 
Just a few last Pergear pictures from today and then I'll stop going on about this lens.

I can't remember if this was f4 or f5.6.

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This was just shot with focus set part way into the frame and the corners look really good at 100%.

Mrs WW wanted her picture taking with the trees in the background. This was at the same f4 or f5.6 aperture with the focus on Mrs WW's face.

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f1.4.

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One review highlighted field curvature but it's easily ignored and I'm really pleased with this cheap and very small lens :D
 
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But is it fast enough to stop the battery running out?
 
They could be at least get a bit more creative when they're fabricating A9 rumours, at least some of their previous utter nonsense made up A9III rumours were more entertaining. Although kind of odd there's still A9III rumours given according to that site the A9III was definitely released by now at least three times.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
They could be at least get a bit more creative when they're fabricating A9 rumours, at least some of their previous utter nonsense made up A9III rumours were more entertaining. Although kind of odd there's still A9III rumours given according to that site the A9III was definitely released by now at least three times.
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My agency just bought new kit for their top photographers. They went with R3s despite being Nikon previously. The Z9 was too slow for transfers. I really like the ability to crop on teh A1 but if I am honest the file sizes are too big for me. Fine if you are shooting portraits or landscapes but when you are shooting 5k images a week or more it gets old pretty quickly. The market the A9iii is going for has competition now. It was an easy market for Sony last time at least in terms of mirrorless options. Not so much this time. My guess is they won't make an A9iii and will instead make a 61mp A1 ii with an option to shoot at 26mp full frame like the A7RV but at a much higher frame rate. That would be the perfect camera for me particularly with the noise reduction programmes available when you want to shoot that special high resolution image in low light. Add the better subject recognition that the A7RV has and then offer the small or full sized shell and I'd be selling my A1 and two A9iis in favour of two new A1iis
 
wookie6262 said:
My agency just bought new kit for their top photographers. They went with R3s despite being Nikon previously. The Z9 was too slow for transfers. I really like the ability to crop on teh A1 but if I am honest the file sizes are too big for me. Fine if you are shooting portraits or landscapes but when you are shooting 5k images a week or more it gets old pretty quickly. The market the A9iii is going for has competition now. It was an easy market for Sony last time at least in terms of mirrorless options. Not so much this time. My guess is they won't make an A9iii and will instead make a 61mp A1 ii with an option to shoot at 26mp full frame like the A7RV but at a much higher frame rate. That would be the perfect camera for me particularly with the noise reduction programmes available when you want to shoot that special high resolution image in low light. Add the better subject recognition that the A7RV has and then offer the small or full sized shell and I'd be selling my A1 and two A9iis in favour of two new A1iis
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I do wonder where it all ends, I know it’s been said before that “we don’t need anything else” and then new tech comes out and we realise that actually things can be improved. However, I really struggle to see what else we need. Sure megapixels will likely continue to rise, and frame rates will continue to rise but for what?

I already have 30fps and it’s too much, I tried it out but shoot at 20fps 99% of the time and tbh it’s still too much and am considering changing to 15fps. 50mp handy now and again, far more than needed a lot of the time. Dynamic range has been stuck at the 14.5-15 ev range for a while so can’t see that improving much.

The only thing I would say that on the A1 bird eye AF works better than animal eye AF (at least for dogs) and that’s the only thing I can think of where it’s be a useful improvement.
 
wookie6262 said:
My agency just bought new kit for their top photographers. They went with R3s despite being Nikon previously. The Z9 was too slow for transfers. I really like the ability to crop on teh A1 but if I am honest the file sizes are too big for me. Fine if you are shooting portraits or landscapes but when you are shooting 5k images a week or more it gets old pretty quickly. The market the A9iii is going for has competition now. It was an easy market for Sony last time at least in terms of mirrorless options. Not so much this time. My guess is they won't make an A9iii and will instead make a 61mp A1 ii with an option to shoot at 26mp full frame like the A7RV but at a much higher frame rate. That would be the perfect camera for me particularly with the noise reduction programmes available when you want to shoot that special high resolution image in low light. Add the better subject recognition that the A7RV has and then offer the small or full sized shell and I'd be selling my A1 and two A9iis in favour of two new A1iis
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I think you're right and I can't really see a place now in the market for a new version of the A9 but it's what irritates me about these rumour sites is that while I know they make up just about everything they post, it still creates just that little doubt in my mind that I should wait a bit longer. The 25MP of the A9 series is a big plus for me as its high speed burns through memory and storage extremely quickly so the higher resolution A1 or Nikon Z8 are going to be worse, the option to save smaller raw files would be great.
 
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snerkler said:
... Dynamic range has been stuck at the 14.5-15 ev range for a while so can’t see that improving much.
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Dynamic range used to be around the 12.5 ev, then made a rapid increase to it's current levels - Sony has MF sensors that get up to 15.5 ev I think, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are working on pushing it further, and also maintaining it as ISO increases - it's one of those things that you don't really realise you need more of until you switch to a camera with a step up as I have done (A900 - A7iv) and realise what that extra gives you as soon as things get a bit challenging.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
I think you're right and I can't really see a place now in the market for a new version of the A9 but it's what irritates me about these rumour sites is that while I know they make up just about everything they post, it still creates just that little doubt in my mind that I should wait a bit longer. The 25MP of the A9 series is a big plus for me as its high speed burns through memory and storage extremely quickly so the higher resolution A1 or Nikon Z8 are going to be worse, the option to save smaller raw files would be great.
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You can shoot at 21mp and 12mp on the A1 if you want to have smaller files, and then shoot at 50mp for the times you want to crop (y)
 
Faldrax said:
Dynamic range used to be around the 12.5 ev, then made a rapid increase to it's current levels - Sony has MF sensors that get up to 15.5 ev I think, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are working on pushing it further, and also maintaining it as ISO increases - it's one of those things that you don't really realise you need more of until you switch to a camera with a step up as I have done (A900 - A7iv) and realise what that extra gives you as soon as things get a bit challenging.
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Exactly this. Going from a D610 to A7III I found much greater recovery of shadow possible.
 
JohnMcL7 said:
I think you're right and I can't really see a place now in the market for a new version of the A9 but it's what irritates me about these rumour sites is that while I know they make up just about everything they post, it still creates just that little doubt in my mind that I should wait a bit longer. The 25MP of the A9 series is a big plus for me as its high speed burns through memory and storage extremely quickly so the higher resolution A1 or Nikon Z8 are going to be worse, the option to save smaller raw files would be great.
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snerkler said:
You can shoot at 21mp and 12mp on the A1 if you want to have smaller files, and then shoot at 50mp for the times you want to crop (y)
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Just done a quick test of large vs medium file sizes, I can't see a difference when viewed at full image, obviously 1:1 there's a marked difference. How they'd fair when pushed in post I don't know.


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JohnMcL7 said:
That sounds a really handy feature although not one Nikon seem to support from what I can see.
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I don't know about Nikon, out of the loop these days.
 
snerkler said:
I don't know about Nikon, out of the loop these days.
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They seem more focused on high efficiency higher compressed raw files instead but may be reading things wrong, it's all a lot more complicated than it used to be :)
 
JohnMcL7 said:
They seem more focused on high efficiency higher compressed raw files instead but may be reading things wrong, it's all a lot more complicated than it used to be :)
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You can get compressed RAW on Sony too.
In fact I'd argue Sony's compressed RAW is best of the bunch.
 
nandbytes said:
You can get compressed RAW on Sony too.
In fact I'd argue Sony's compressed RAW is best of the bunch.
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I only use Lossless compressed now, I’ve not seen any advantage of using uncompressed in the real world.
 
snerkler said:
I only use Lossless compressed now, I’ve not seen any advantage of using uncompressed in the real world.
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there isn't really.
In fact for >95% of the you can get away with Sony's lossy compressed RAW with no impact in real world usage.
 
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