The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

New Alpha camera tomorrow at 3pm UK time.

What we thinking, A7R5?

 
Porlock, North Somerset.

The dead trees :)

They were locally known, but since being featured on a few YouTube photography channels they've grown in popularity quite a bit!!


*** by Lee, on Flickr

The isolation and detail of tree and the tones in general, you would be forgiven for thinking this is a MF shot! I've followed a lot of your work and you really do have your editing nailed down perfectly as well.
 
Isn't that about double what the current R goes for.
When the original R cane out I think I paid about £1800 for it.
The Rii came out at £2500 and following Brexit and fall of GBP they put the price up to £3200. Then the Riii was released at the same price i.e. £3200. Riv was released for £3500.
So Rv with all the advancements if they are indeed more than just incremental is bound to put the price up.
 
The Rii came out at £2500 and following Brexit and fall of GBP they put the price up to £3200. Then the Riii was released at the same price i.e. £3200. Riv was released for £3500.
So Rv with all the advancements if they are indeed more than just incremental is bound to put the price up.
It shouldn't really.
I get that prices across the board have gone up but just releasing a new tech product doesn't increase your price year on year.
You can actually have situations where variants after your first units are cheaper to make even with higher tech parts.
They are making a lot of profit on these cameras.
 
The isolation and detail of tree and the tones in general, you would be forgiven for thinking this is a MF shot! I've followed a lot of your work and you really do have your editing nailed down perfectly as well.
Completely agree, I'm actually very jealous :lol:
Isn't that about double what the current R goes for.
When the original R cane out I think I paid about £1800 for it.
As Nandbytes has said the A7RIV was £3499 at launch, given the value of the pound since then it was always going to go up. I'd also guess that chips shortages have raised prices too. All that being said, camera prices are getting way over anything I can ever afford/be willing to pay. I'm glad I got my A9-II from Panamoz when I did, I got a relative bargain as they're currently a few hundred more than I paid.
 
It shouldn't really.
I get that prices across the board have gone up but just releasing a new tech product doesn't increase your price year on year.
You can actually have situations where variants after your first units are cheaper to make even with higher tech parts.
They are making a lot of profit on these cameras.

Tell that to phone manufacturers ;)
Eventually £2K for a phone will be normal.

They are definitely making lot of profit but I think as commented on above making chips are becoming more expensive thanks to the shortages. Also ILC market is now a high profit margin but low sales kind of business.
Most of the lower end bodies are no longer being made.

I think prices will continue to increase in this space
 
@snerkler - looks like the fully articulating screen is back?


I am buying two of these if they have actually finally added what they should have like 4 generations ago! :ROFLMAO:
 
Tell that to phone manufacturers ;)
Eventually £2K for a phone will be normal.

They are definitely making lot of profit but I think as commented on above making chips are becoming more expensive thanks to the shortages. Also ILC market is now a high profit margin but low sales kind of business.
Most of the lower end bodies are no longer being made.

I think prices will continue to increase in this space
I know all about chip shortages, dealing with it at work. We buy our sensors in (Sony ones) and we make the rest.
 
@snerkler - looks like the fully articulating screen is back?


I am buying two of these if they have actually finally added what they should have like 4 generations ago! :ROFLMAO:
Ooh, I wonder if it will be like the A77 or more like Fuji's implementation? I'd miss the blackout free shooting and drive dial still though so I'm happy to stick with my A9ii ;)
 
@snerkler - looks like the fully articulating screen is back?


I am buying two of these if they have actually finally added what they should have like 4 generations ago! :ROFLMAO:

Only 2? Even I might buy 2 :D You need 3 :D
 
Tell that to phone manufacturers ;)
Eventually £2K for a phone will be normal.

They are definitely making lot of profit but I think as commented on above making chips are becoming more expensive thanks to the shortages. Also ILC market is now a high profit margin but low sales kind of business.
Most of the lower end bodies are no longer being made.

I think prices will continue to increase in this space

Seems like phone prices can drop quickly. I was surprised to get a phone that's been out for less than 18 months for just over £200. Mrs WW is after a new phone but she says the price will drop after Xmas so she'll wait until then.
 
Seems like phone prices can drop quickly. I was surprised to get a phone that's been out for less than 18 months for just over £200. Mrs WW is after a new phone but she says the price will drop after Xmas so she'll wait until then.
Black Friday's just around the corner too.
 
Ooh, I wonder if it will be like the A77 or more like Fuji's implementation? I'd miss the blackout free shooting and drive dial still though so I'm happy to stick with my A9ii ;)

yeah wondering the same. not sure but I have a feeling it'll be more like Fuji.
you think you'll miss them but you won't ;)
 
Seems like phone prices can drop quickly. I was surprised to get a phone that's been out for less than 18 months for just over £200. Mrs WW is after a new phone but she says the price will drop after Xmas so she'll wait until then.

this is why buy used phones. its a bit like buying new vs. used cars.
 
Fuji X100s news.

The metering is on crack. It's the first time I've used it in sunny conditions and it's all over the place, it's choosing high ISO's and fast shutter speeds.
 
yeah wondering the same. not sure but I have a feeling it'll be more like Fuji.
you think you'll miss them but you won't ;)
I missed the drive dial when I moved to the A7RIV, and miss blackout free when I use my Olympus :p
 
Black Friday's just around the corner too.
65" 4k qd-oled has my name on it for black Friday.

Waiting for E-INFINITY to get the Tamron 20-40 probably wait a while as lenses always seem to drop a bit in price after the initial rush.
 
65" 4k qd-oled has my name on it for black Friday.

Waiting for E-INFINITY to get the Tamron 20-40 probably wait a while as lenses always seem to drop a bit in price after the initial rush.

This really interests me but I do like my primes. I keep meaning to fit a zoom and try and get used to it.
 
Just wanted to mention - I upgraded from a7II to a7c and have to say that low light performance difference is HUGE.
On a7II, ISO above 1600 had bad grain in low light, now with a7c even above 6000 its nice and smooth.
Viewfinder - it was my main concern, but once I put my eye to it - I was surprised - its perfectly fine! Why the hell people complain about it I have no idea!

Funny part is, that now when I have a7c, I need to upgrade my lens - Tamron 24/2.8 AF is now loud and slow, so once I sell it, I'll get Sony 24/2.8 G.
 
Just wanted to mention - I upgraded from a7II to a7c and have to say that low light performance difference is HUGE.
On a7II, ISO above 1600 had bad grain in low light, now with a7c even above 6000 its nice and smooth.
Viewfinder - it was my main concern, but once I put my eye to it - I was surprised - its perfectly fine! Why the hell people complain about it I have no idea!

Funny part is, that now when I have a7c, I need to upgrade my lens - Tamron 24/2.8 AF is now loud and slow, so once I sell it, I'll get Sony 24/2.8 G.

I guess people get used to the very good and notice anything less.

All my cameras have useable VF's, it's just a matter of degrees of goodness :D
 
Waiting for the ..... "I have sent it back" ..... :LOL:

Very nearly.

I asked in the Fuji thread and there's a Dynamic Range setting which was set to Auto. Other choices are 100, 200 and 400% and apparently all settings except DR100 impose ISO limits. Once I'd set it to DR100 the metering looks more normal. On DR generally the highlights seem to be blowing really easily but I haven't had time to play with it too much. It could be that the metering is selecting too low a shutter speed or it could be that the DR is indeed limited. At the mo just playing with it and reviewing the results on screen it seems to be blowing highlight that I'd expect my MFT cameras to cope with.

I don't think it's going back... but at the mo I don't know if this can leave behind or even match MFT let alone worry my A7 for DR.
 
I guess people get used to the very good and notice anything less.

All my cameras have useable VF's, it's just a matter of degrees of goodness :D
I've not used any Sony VF that I thought was great yet, there's always graininess when focussing. From memory the Z7 EVF was much nicer.
 
I've not used any Sony VF that I thought was great yet, there's always graininess when focussing. From memory the Z7 EVF was much nicer.

I take very little notice of the VF quality, for me it's just there to frame the picture and look at the settings. I imagine it would be more important if I did video though.

I use the back screen to check sharpness and make any changes to the menu but that's about it.
 
@snerkler Would you recommend Dovedale as a good spot to shoot ? I'm passing through that way soon, won't have time to do a long trek, thanks in advance.
 
Only 1000 or so people watching the A7rV presentation on YouTube!!
 
Yep, it will be a day 1765 purchase for me :)

edit - That music is terrible
 
it has focus bracketting!!! finally!!!
Definetely buying three of these now :ROFLMAO:
I wonder if it's something they could add via firmware on the rest of the cameras.
 
That was OK, but nowhere near enough technical detail on the sensor performance :(
 
I wonder if it's something they could add via firmware on the rest of the cameras.
I certainly hope at least to all the latest iterations of each line.
Also would be silly if A7RV is better spec'd out feature wise than A1.
 
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