The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

imattersuk said:
Sounds to me like you expect the AF to do all of the heavy lifting hence your love for the A9. I’ve never missed a shot in a professional environment when shooting moving human or animal subjects with the A7RIII. Never tried it for motor sports or similar but to suggest it’s only suitable for static subjects is plain ridiculous.

I do wonder when I read comments like yours how you would have got on in the film era, cue you’re going to tell me just fine
Click to expand...

Have to have a giggle when old timers like yourself make silly comments like this without a clue at all about what my experience level is, how I do things etc.

You would need to be an idiot not to to rely on modern a.f when the option is available as it allows you to just concentrate on composition, meaning better more powerful images.

If you would like to view the stuff I have shot on film, there is an exhibition of some stuff I have shot currently being displayed at Belfast City Council's office as part of their arts programme.

If you had read what I actually said rather jumping on your high horse you would have seen that I said that I personally found the A7RIII a dog of a camera and it didn't suit my needs at all.
 
Last edited:
f/2.8 said:
Have to have a giggle when old timers like yourself make silly comments like this without a clue at all about what my experience level is, how I do things etc.

You would need to be an idiot not to to rely on modern a.f when the option is available as it allows you to just concentrate on composition, meaning better more powerful images.

If you would like to view the stuff I have shot on film, there is an exhibition of some stuff I have shot currently being displayed at Belfast City Council's office as part of their arts programme.

If you had read what I actually said rather jumping on your high horse you would have seen that I said that I personally found the A7RIII a dog of a camera and it didn't suit my needs at all.
Click to expand...
Well it’s my view that you’d have to be an idiot to rely totally on a camera’s af in a commercial setting, it’s just a tool and still requires considerate creative input from the user to achieve the best result. The A9 certainly doesn’t have fool proof af and the danger can be to become complacent and over reliant on it. The banding issue is very real so for my needs it wouldn’t suit but I wouldn’t describe it as a dog or any other camera body that’s been released in the last 5-6 years. They all have advantages and disadvantages. I’ve seen the Olympus OMD OMD 1 mk2 criticised as have poor tracking capabilities but I found it tracked birds flawlessly but af in low light was poor as was the amount of noise at ISO 400 and above so ultimately that didn’t suit my needs but again it doesn’t make it a dog.

Everyone’s entitled to their opinions you just seem to put yours across in a manner that sounds condescending, abrupt and at times rude. The way you’ve talked down to people who are buying Samyang lenses is a recent example.
 
imattersuk said:
Well it’s my view that you’d have to be an idiot to rely totally on a camera’s af in a commercial setting, it’s just a tool and still requires considerate creative input from the user to achieve the best result. The A9 certainly doesn’t have fool proof af and the danger can be to become complacent and over reliant on it. The banding issue is very real so for my needs it wouldn’t suit but I wouldn’t describe it as a dog or any other camera body that’s been released in the last 5-6 years. They all have advantages and disadvantages. I’ve seen the Olympus OMD OMD 1 mk2 criticised as have poor tracking capabilities but I found it tracked birds flawlessly but af in low light was poor as was the amount of noise at ISO 400 and above so ultimately that didn’t suit my needs but again it doesn’t make it a dog.

Everyone’s entitled to their opinions you just seem to put yours across in a manner that sounds condescending, abrupt and at times rude. The way you’ve talked down to people who are buying Samyang lenses is a recent example.
Click to expand...

Aggh right I get it now you are just stirring the pot because you have some sort of issue with me. The sly digs at how I do things are just nonsense then.

As for the Samyang thing, I have owned quite a few of their lenses, I thought the whole point of the forum was to "talk photography" and this thread is in the "talk equipment" section.. In my opinion Samyang autofocus lenses aren't very good at all, A quick look on google will show you that many other people feel the same way. I shared my opinion as have others. You don't have to see anything I post here, there is an ignore function, if it upsets you so much..

It's a bit sad though to get upset about what someone who isn't even having a conversation with you posts on an internet forum and to react in the way that you did.

I would say that your recent posts here are abrupt and rude. That is my opinion, but I haven't tried to personally attack you even though your rudeness is aimed at me.
 
Last edited:
I was trying out the Pocketwizards with the Sonys today. Worked really well and the remote camera is now able to stay on and AF if needed. Without stirring further lol not sure if I want to rely on AF on a camera I can't see but it does give the option of potential of capturing a try in the opposite corner and the cele after with a 50mm or longer lens. I tried it out on Brooke and it works perfectly nailing eye focus from a lens that had been manually focussed to min distance.
_A9_8962 by Simon Wootton, on Flickr
 
wookie6262 said:
I was trying out the Pocketwizards with the Sonys today. Worked really well and the remote camera is now able to stay on and AF if needed. Without stirring further lol not sure if I want to rely on AF on a camera I can't see but it does give the option of potential of capturing a try in the opposite corner and the cele after with a 50mm or longer lens. I tried it out on Brooke and it works perfectly nailing eye focus from a lens that had been manually focussed to min distance.
_A9_8962 by Simon Wootton, on Flickr
Click to expand...
I think this is where using your phone can help as with some cameras you can seen the image on the phone and where it’s focussing. I’ve not used this though so don’t know how good it is.
 
GeordieStew said:
You can see after with a7info. The focus area is stored in the exif data, I believe.
Click to expand...
Yeah I think so, plus you can get plugins for LR etc to show it too I believe. However, what I meant was that if you're triggering your camera remotely you don't know what the camera is focussing on until after the shot meaning the possibility of missed focus. Obviously you can pre-focus, rely on eye-Af etc but with some phone apps I'm pretty sure you can see the frame and select the focus on the phone so you can make sure you're focussing in the right place (y)
 
snerkler said:
Yeah I think so, plus you can get plugins for LR etc to show it too I believe. However, what I meant was that if you're triggering your camera remotely you don't know what the camera is focussing on until after the shot meaning the possibility of missed focus. Obviously you can pre-focus, rely on eye-Af etc but with some phone apps I'm pretty sure you can see the frame and select the focus on the phone so you can make sure you're focussing in the right place (y)
Click to expand...
I think you can select focus points on the Image edge app but for my purpose I doubt it would be quick enough. Remote shots are a bonus as far as I am concerned so I may as well try to get them a bit different from the norm and AF. Much will depend on the distances involved. At Murrayfield for example the ingoal area is huge so you could get quite a bit back and set an aperture of f5.6-8 and that would probably get everything in focus I would need. At smaller grounds that might not be as easy. I'm guessing though and will maybe give it a go both MF and AF tonight to see what works best. Need to get tries in corners to really know though.
 
Second try at the Samyang 35mm f1.8, still has some decentering but not sure if it's acceptable? (I don't know if I'm over scrutinising now) Using the white building as the reference point for the corners, it's the bottom left corner that's the biggest issue, much like the last lens (although the last one was noticeably worse).

1:1 crops

Link here to view the original screenshots https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/zococmngo3xkd52w3xpy7/h?dl=0&rlkey=axn1ilr6hu0tjbr9z325mtsab


Screenshot 2022-06-10 at 16.45.21 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

Screenshot 2022-06-10 at 16.45.32 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

Screenshot 2022-06-10 at 16.45.42 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

Screenshot 2022-06-10 at 16.45.51 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr
 
Last edited:
First lily of the year. Just opened this morning :D Taken with my A7 and Sony 35mm f1.8. I haven't been able to get out recently, the last time I got out with my A7 was mid May, which is a long time for me :D

JGFUidz.jpg
 
Can't download the shots Toby
.dropbox says "folder empty"
lets' me download a zip file but it's got 0 bytes.
 
ancient_mariner said:
What aperture are you using Toby?
Click to expand...
Wide open, I use this method except hand held
phillipreeve.net

How to check how decentered your lens is - phillipreeve.net

How to check if your lens is decentered? You may have already heard of sample variation or decentered lenses. In this article we will show you how to easily test your lenses for proper centering. If you know how it works it will take you less than 5 minutes per lens! Where this test originates …...
phillipreeve.net phillipreeve.net
 
wambam said:
Can't download the shots Toby
.dropbox says "folder empty"
lets' me download a zip file but it's got 0 bytes.
Click to expand...
Thanks for letting me know, try this it should have the original 1:1 crops exported from LR

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com www.dropbox.com
 
snerkler said:
Wide open, I use this method except hand held
phillipreeve.net

How to check how decentered your lens is - phillipreeve.net

How to check if your lens is decentered? You may have already heard of sample variation or decentered lenses. In this article we will show you how to easily test your lenses for proper centering. If you know how it works it will take you less than 5 minutes per lens! Where this test originates …...
phillipreeve.net phillipreeve.net
Click to expand...
Looking at the Zeiss 35mm f1.4 example posted in the comments then Samyangs don’t look so bad after all :eek: ;)
 
snerkler said:
Second try at the Samyang 35mm f1.8, still has some decentering but not sure if it's acceptable? (I don't know if I'm over scrutinising now) Using the white building as the reference point for the corners, it's the bottom left corner that's the biggest issue, much like the last lens (although the last one was noticeably worse).

1:1 crops

Link here to view the original screenshots https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/zococmngo3xkd52w3xpy7/h?dl=0&rlkey=axn1ilr6hu0tjbr9z325mtsab


Screenshot 2022-06-10 at 16.45.21 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

Screenshot 2022-06-10 at 16.45.32 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

Screenshot 2022-06-10 at 16.45.42 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr

Screenshot 2022-06-10 at 16.45.51 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr
Click to expand...
Doesn't look bad to me
 
Wide open won't help if your lens is naturally a little soft in the corners at max aperure. The qual ity of moder mirrorless lenses has made us really fussy compared with most last gen lenses.
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Doesn't look bad to me
Click to expand...
Thanks, I do think I'm being over critical due to having a bad copy previously
ancient_mariner said:
Wide open won't help if your lens is naturally a little soft in the corners at max aperure. The qual ity of moder mirrorless lenses has made us really fussy compared with most last gen lenses.
Click to expand...
Thanks, yeah it's a test for decentering rather than outright corner sharpness and this is obviously highlighted more wide open. I agree we're getting hyper critical and as I've just said before I think it's a case of once bitten........
 
Last edited:
Bobsyeruncle said:
Huge difference......but then I'd expect that given the difference in price....
Click to expand...
I would expect it to be sharper for sure, but does the price excuse decentering? Admittedly the 50mm is super impressive and I'd say as perfect as you're going to get, but to my eyes the 35mm has a marked difference not just a slight difference.

I'm really impressed with the edge to edge sharpness of the 50mm, those crops are almost 200% and I think they stand up extremely well (the slanting/distortion is just down to me hand holding), here's the full frame to show how much they're cropped.


Screenshot 2022-06-11 at 08.20.31 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr
 
snerkler said:
I would expect it to be sharper for sure, but does the price excuse decentering? Admittedly the 50mm is super impressive and I'd say as perfect as you're going to get, but to my eyes the 35mm has a marked difference not just a slight difference.

I'm really impressed with the edge to edge sharpness of the 50mm, those crops are almost 200% and I think they stand up extremely well (the slanting/distortion is just down to me hand holding), here's the full frame to show how much they're cropped.


Screenshot 2022-06-11 at 08.20.31 by Toby Gunnee, on Flickr
Click to expand...
Tbh I think a lot of people could have that lens and not even realise/notice it's decentred...I'm talking about less serious/critical photographers
 
Bobsyeruncle said:
Tbh I think a lot of people could have that lens and not even realise/notice it's decentred...I'm talking about less serious/critical photographers
Click to expand...
Yeah completely agree, and for my uses it probably wouldn't be noticeable as the subject will likely be central shot with as shallow DOF field as possible but it's one of those things that now I've seen it I'll not be able to get it out of my head :facepalm: :lol:
 
Tysonator said:
Hi All,
can any recommend a good YouTube video / channel for video set up for Sony A6600 ! ?
Click to expand...
I don't anyone specific but a quick search for Sony A6600 video settings brings up loads of good videos (y)
 
Today I tried to take a image for my 100 strangers project, A7 III + Sammy AF 50mm wide open, OMG what a damn mistake that was as it struggled to focus on this young ladies eye so I had to stop it down a bit, I'm happy with the shot but now agree with what has been said about potrait shots wide open so it looks like it will be stopped down mostly.

Oriana by Rohan, on Flickr
 
Last edited:
Fuji Dave said:
Today I tried to take a image for my 100 strangers project, A7 III + Sammy AF 50mm wide open, OMG what a damn mistake that was at it struggle to focus on this young ladies eye so I had to stop it down a bit, I'm happy with the shot but now agree with what has been said about potrait shots wide open so it looks like it will be stopped down mostly.

Oriana by Rohan, on Flickr
Click to expand...
Oh dear, what was the issue? I've not had a problem with mine so far.
 
Fuji Dave said:
I have not got a clue, but as soon as it hit f1.6 it locked on in an instant, really was strange.
Click to expand...
Oh, so it wouldn't lock on? That's odd, I've not heard of that issue before with this lens, I can't even fathom what that would be :thinking:
 
addicknchips said:
Is Lens firmware up to date ?
Click to expand...

Fuji Dave said:
I check ever few months for firmware updates, but will check it again.
Click to expand...
I can’t find any firmware updates but the Samyang site only lists the most recent from what I can see so would need to hook up my lens station to know for sure. I’d be surprised if there’s an update already as it’s not been out long, but if there is it’d suggest mine’s up to date as I’ve not had the same issue as Fujidave.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top