The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

nandbytes said:
To some extent this is exactly my point. Sony could easily fix most of the issues but they won't. We'll probably see Nikon improve over second Gen but Sony will still have the old issues left untouched!
Sony could easily fix most things via. Firmware but will remain oblivious and they won't.
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Past performance is not an indicator of future results. I've read a lot from Nikon users saying the next gen will be way better. And while it's of course true, it ignores that the next-gen Sonys (which will likely appear first) will also be much improved.
 
The other difference is Sony has a lot of cash to throw around and they are the worlds leading sensor manufacturer, Nikon does not.
 
nandbytes said:
I did and just because I shoot a certain system doesn't make it perfect. Unfortunately nothing out there provides what I want. Sony is closest at the moment, I suspect it may be Nikon in future
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But it seems like the Sony is an issue for your shooting style and yet it's the closet to suiting your needs? Maybe you need to revisit your shooting style as out of all the dslr and mirrorless system out there. Surely one of them or a combination of them will suit your needs and style to the Tee
 
nandbytes said:
Focus stacking, time lapse, good adapter support for a-mount lenses.

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Interesting debate on the missing features, but surely any decent focus stacking will be better doing separately in post, along with any timelapse creation, so much better to shoot the raws individually with an intervalometer then composing with somehting like LRTimelaspe, faffier but worth it, unless you want something quick and easy then shoot it in video and speed it up. So not sure they are not really killer features missing, more nice to have features.

Is there as large and quality back catalogue of a mount lenses compared to canon and nikon?
 
Barrysprout said:
Go get it!
I've arranged transport. :D

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You can pay for it for me too and you have a deal
Barrysprout said:
Shame it hadn't arrived quicker then. Looks like an ideal travel lens :eek:

I would offer to collect it for you and test until you got back but it's a bit far to travel and I reckon you might not be keen on the idea.
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nandbytes said:
To some extent this is exactly my point. Sony could easily fix most of the issues but they won't. We'll probably see Nikon improve over second Gen but Sony will still have the old issues left untouched!
Sony could easily fix most things via. Firmware but will remain oblivious and they won't.
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I see a lot of "It could easily be fixed in Firmware" type comments, and I suspect the vase majority (if not all) are made by people who have never done software / firmware development on embedded systems - where you are usually very tightly limited in terms of platform capability - sometimes you're lucky, and you can squeeze something more, but if the existing firmware already uses all the available memory, for example, the only way to add something is to take something else away.
 
Faldrax said:
I see a lot of "It could easily be fixed in Firmware" type comments, and I suspect the vase majority (if not all) are made by people who have never done software / firmware development on embedded systems - where you are usually very tightly limited in terms of platform capability - sometimes you're lucky, and you can squeeze something more, but if the existing firmware already uses all the available memory, for example, the only way to add something is to take something else away.
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Used to work for rolls Royce on their aeroplane engine's micro controllers. Doesn't get more embedded than that :p
 
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jonneymendoza said:
But it seems like the Sony is an issue for your shooting style and yet it's the closet to suiting your needs? Maybe you need to revisit your shooting style as out of all the dslr and mirrorless system out there. Surely one of them or a combination of them will suit your needs and style to the Tee
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A combination of them would work nicely but I am not keen on maintaining two systems.
 
JJ! said:
So the Sony FE 50mm 1.8 - mixed reviews online!

Advnatage - cheap and I like 50mm

Cons - slow to focus? noisy?

Anyone care to share user opnions? If I switch I was going to go for the samyang 35mm but I do like shooting at 50. The 55m is out of reach.

Might still go for the Samyang, but be interested on views of the 50.
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I use the FE 50/1.8. There are definitely faster lenses but it works for me on my A7 (which has slow AF anyway!). I've never felt that it's particularly noisy either, including shooting inside galleries etc.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevelloyd/albums/72157683225918122

For the price it's a good lens.
 
JJ! said:
I was hoping that the cheap nifty fifty might have been as nifty as the cheap nikon fifty, which I find rather nifty... for a fifty.
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It's definitely the worse 50mm on the system, and not like £100 cheap….It's a fifty but not very nifty.
 
Hopefully with Canikon entering he market with 35mm f1.8's Sony might think there's a need for one... But I doubt it...

Maybe they could make the f2.8 f1.8 with a firmware update?



PS.
I'm kidding :D
 
woof woof said:
Hopefully with Canikon entering he market with 35mm f1.8's Sony might think there's a need for one... But I doubt it...

Maybe they could make the f2.8 f1.8 with a firmware update?



PS.
I'm kidding :D
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Have you got your A7 iii yet Alan?
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
Have you got your A7 iii yet Alan?
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I'm waiting for the A7IV as I've heard it'll have a bramble mode. Apparently it's like face detect, it detects ripe ones and automatically applies exposure compensation when required.

Other than that.
Dunno what to do really. I'm waiting for an email from Currys when they get them in stock but I've gone off the boil a bit. My A7 does everything I want for manual lenses and for AF it's fast enough in good light but focus slows significantly in lower light in which my MFT cameras still work very quickly. Also eye detect might be nice to try as I've been impressed with face detect. If the MKIII can approach MFT speed in lower light that'd be great but I'd be taking a leap of faith really.

I'll make my mind up when they're in stock somewhere.

Got a manual lens to collect on Monday :D

Brambles... Remember to soak them in salt water to drive the worms and bugs out :D

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addicknchips said:
Wow finally a camera that may be able to keep up with your needs?
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Indeed I am excited.
My needs are actually low - FF, EVF, 35mm1.8, 85mm1.8, some kind of mid-zoom, no IBIS thus cheaper smaller body, good AF tracking preferably with eyeAF.
 
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Raymond Lin said:
From best to worse

Zeiss 50/1.4 Planar
Sigma 50/1.4 Art
Zeiss 55/1.8 Sonnar
Sony 50/1.8
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And where would you place the Zeiss loxia 50/2.0?
I know the camera is autofocus and you might reasonably ask why buy a manual lens, but equally you might say the principle idea of the system is to be small and light and therefore ask why buy any huge lens?

So from best worst

Zeiss loxia 50/2.0
Zeiss sonnar 55/1.8
Sony 50/1.8

:)
 
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CharleyBird said:
And where would you place the Zeiss loxia 50/2.0?
I know the camera is autofocus and you might reasonably ask why buy a manual lens, but equally you might say the principle idea of the system is to be small and light and therefore ask why buy any huge lens?

So from best worst

Zeiss loxia 50/2.0
Zeiss sonnar 55/1.8
Sony 50/1.8

:)
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Different type, you would have rank it with the Zeiss Milvus, Otus etc
 
CharleyBird said:
but equally you might say the principle idea of the system is to be small and light
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You might, but I personally think that's far from the principle idea of the system. Mirrorless is a logical advance beyond DSLRs (i.e. it's fully digital), there can be a size and weight advantage and Oly/Pan did a great job of selling that when at the time it was the main USP, but we're way, waaaay past that now.

(Sigma 35 and 85 art owner!)
 
CharleyBird said:
And where would you place the Zeiss loxia 50/2.0?
I know the camera is autofocus and you might reasonably ask why buy a manual lens, but equally you might say the principle idea of the system is to be small and light and therefore ask why buy any huge lens?

So from best worst

Zeiss loxia 50/2.0
Zeiss sonnar 55/1.8
Sony 50/1.8

:)
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My rating
FE55, Loxia, FE50/1.8
 
One of my favourites from a recent wedding. Rented the 24-70mm 2.8 GM, which is an absolute weapon (and reasonably compact considering I also carry two Sigma Arts), but being used to f1.4 I found f2.8 to be pushing the high ISO further than I'm comfortable with at times, and this was at a pretty well lit wedding. AF is basically instant on the a7RII, but interestingly not noticeably different from my MC-11'd Sigma Arts.

Lisa & Steve by Chris Harrison, on Flickr

There are plenty of better lit and better technically images in the set, but for pure emotion I just love moments like this.
 
ukaskew said:
One of my favourites from a recent wedding. Rented the 24-70mm 2.8 GM, which is an absolute weapon (and reasonably compact considering I also carry two Sigma Arts), but being used to f1.4 I found f2.8 to be pushing the high ISO further than I'm comfortable with at times, and this was at a pretty well lit wedding. AF is basically instant on the a7RII, but interestingly not noticeably different from my MC-11'd Sigma Arts.

Lisa & Steve by Chris Harrison, on Flickr

There are plenty of better lit and better technically images in the set, but for pure emotion I just love moments like this.
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The ARTs are 1.4 so in low light will take advantage of the additional light to the sensor. In even dimmer light it's likely they'd perform even better than the native 2.8 zoom.
 
ukaskew said:
One of my favourites from a recent wedding. Rented the 24-70mm 2.8 GM, which is an absolute weapon (and reasonably compact considering I also carry two Sigma Arts), but being used to f1.4 I found f2.8 to be pushing the high ISO further than I'm comfortable with at times, and this was at a pretty well lit wedding. AF is basically instant on the a7RII, but interestingly not noticeably different from my MC-11'd Sigma Arts.
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That's nice to know.
 
Just looking at the Canon CSC and I see another 35mm f1.8 :D so that's Nikon and Canon both opening with 35mm f1.8's in their line up. Reading the comments on other forums there does seem to a market for a good and fairly compact Sony 35mm f1.8. Surely Sony have noticed what Canikon are doing and surely some of the talk on the various forums and rumor sites has got back to them?

Why no reasonably compact 35mm f1.8 Sony?

The system has been going for a few years now and yet we still haven't got one. Will we ever see one?

My hope is that Sony will do one in response to what Canikon are doing.
 
woof woof said:
Just looking at the Canon CSC and I see another 35mm f1.8 :D so that's Nikon and Canon both opening with 35mm f1.8's in their line up. Reading the comments on other forums there does seem to a market for a good and fairly compact Sony 35mm f1.8. Surely Sony have noticed what Canikon are doing and surely some of the talk on the various forums and rumor sites has got back to them?

Why no reasonably compact 35mm f1.8 Sony?

The system has been going for a few years now and yet we still haven't got one. Will we ever see one?

My hope is that Sony will do one in response to what Canikon are doing.
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Canons looks/is smaller has IS and also macro which is a massive benefit for me.
Also that 28-70 f2 looks pretty interesting.
 
nandbytes said:
Canons looks/is smaller has IS and also macro which is a massive benefit for me.
Also that 28-70 f2 looks pretty interesting.
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I'm a bit meh on IS really, it's nice to have and given the choice of with of without if there are no real drawback to having it then I'd have it :D but not having it isn't a big thing for me. I'm also a bit cool on the f2 kit lens, it's a nice surprise but I wouldn't be tempted into the system by it as I don't tend to use kit lenses all that much.

All in although the most difficult thing to understand and the thing that really jumps out at me is that there's no reasonably compact Sony 35mm f1.8 yet at any price. If they did one that was about the same size and price as the 55mm and anywhere near as good I'm sure they'd sell by the boat load.

Nikon's 35mm f1.8 looks good with the fan boy over at Luminous Landscape describing it as just about perfect.
 
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woof woof said:
I'm a bit meh on IS really, it's nice to have and given the choice of with of without if there are no real drawback to having it then I'd have it :D but not having it isn't a big thing for me. I'm also a bit cool on the f2 kit lens, it's a nice surprise but I wouldn't be tempted into the system by it as I don't tend to use kit lenses all that much.
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The new f/2 lens is not a kit lens :D the kit lens is the new 24-105.
 
f/2.8 said:
The new f/2 lens is not a kit lens :D the kit lens is the new 24-105.
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Ok I maybe should have said standard range zoom but anything in that sort of range is a kit lens to me :D
 
woof woof said:
I'm a bit meh on IS really, it's nice to have and given the choice of with of without if there are no real drawback to having it then I'd have it :D but not having it isn't a big thing for me. I'm also a bit cool on the f2 kit lens, it's a nice surprise but I wouldn't be tempted into the system by it as I don't tend to use kit lenses all that much.

All in although the most difficult thing to understand and the thing that really jumps out at me is that there's no reasonably compact Sony 35mm f1.8 yet at any price. If they did one that was about the same size and price as the 55mm and anywhere near as good I'm sure they'd sell by the boat load.

Nikon's 35mm f1.8 looks good with the fan boy over at Luminous Landscape describing it as just about perfect.
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I really like my tamron 28-75/2.8
So the 28-70 f2 caught my eye. Though if it's HUGE I won't be buying it so will wait for the specs.

The specs of 35mm f1.8 makes it really attractive. But I wouldn't swap for one lens. I'd just hope for a option for Sony will turn up sooner or later.
But all in all with Panasonic suddenly jumping in the whole think is getting very very exciting indeed :banana::banana::banana:
 
I swapped from my 20D to a 5D as I really likes the Sigma 12-24mm, 20mm f1.8 and 50 and 85mm f1.4's I had and I wanted to use them on a FF body but I was staying in the same system and changing bodies for 4 lenses not one :D but maybe some will consider one of these systems just to get the combination of a mirrorless body with the name they love and a couple on nice primes (35 and 50 or maybe 35 and 85 or 28 or 28 and 50 whatever their taste) and a standard range zoom.

I know I like the 35 and 50mm lengths maybe more than some here but it just seems madness to me that Sony haven't got a 35mm f1.8 in their line up yet. As I said I think it'd sell by the boatload. I could be wrong.... Sony know best etc. But maybe they'll be prompted to make one by the Canikon developments.

We'll have to wait and see what Panasonic and / or Olympus do but they had no success with DSLR's as everyone preferred a Canikon so I do wonder what they can do in FF mirrorless unless it's very niche.
 
So most important thing of all... what screen protector does everyone use?! :D
 
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