The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

nandbytes said:
Not a fair comparison. We all know even the 16-35/2.8GM is same size as that f4. It's a DSLR design Vs. mirrorless design where mirrorless benefits the most in terms of size.

They have a couple UWAs on the road map. Lets wait and see how they turn out.
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Bit slow tonight? These are current option comparisons, not the future..... Unless you have a time machine.
 
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nandbytes said:
Sure ok but who is buying into this system thinking they'll be adapting huge lens for ever.
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The same people Nikon are selling to saying wahoo you can use all your old lenses and don't have to buy new if you don't want to. They're making a big thing about it

Fact is if you buy into the system now that's what 'you' would be carrying till 2019/20 Vs Sony users all the while Sony will be bringing out even more.
 
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twist said:
The same people Nikon are selling to saying wahoo you can use all your old lenses and don't have to buy new if you don't want to. They're making a big thing about it.
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Are they making a big thing of the size though? If Sony have proved anything it's that mirrorless is much, much more than a potential reduction in size.

It's largely a hangover from the USP of Micro 4/3rds in the early days before the tech really ramped up. It can be a benefit but it doesn't have to be.
 
Quick question. Anybody here used the sigma mount change service.......looking at the a7riii and I have a 35/85 f1.4 art
 
twist said:
Have you had quotes? Expensive.
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I think it’s a couple of hundred pounds for service/mount change etc but I’ve not had a quote.

All theoretical at the mo as the D800 was due an upgrade - was waiting for the mirrorless announcement and was very underwhelmed. Started looking at the a7riii and this is the camera Nikon should have made.
 
Sir SR said:
I think it’s a couple of hundred pounds for service/mount change etc but I’ve not had a quote.

All theoretical at the mo as the D800 was due an upgrade - was waiting for the mirrorless announcement and was very underwhelmed. Started looking at the a7riii and this is the camera Nikon should have made.
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you can sell the sigma ART 35 for £450 and you can buy a new one for £650 which is still cheaper than the mount conversion. Not to mention you get new box for sony, 3 years warranty etc. The mount conversion service didn't seem so good tbh while its kinda cool they offer it.
 
Sir SR said:
I think it’s a couple of hundred pounds for service/mount change etc but I’ve not had a quote.

All theoretical at the mo as the D800 was due an upgrade - was waiting for the mirrorless announcement and was very underwhelmed. Started looking at the a7riii and this is the camera Nikon should have made.
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Sensible option, upgrade to an 850. Chop the 800 in and add £1400 for a grey version which will tie you over till Nikon get it right at a second time of asking. But if money isn’t an issue...
 
Livin The Dream said:
Sensible option, upgrade to an 850. Chop the 800 in and add £1400 for a grey version which will tie you over till Nikon get it right at a second time of asking. But if money isn’t an issue...
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Upgrade into redundancy...... seen whats happened to Sony A mount lately? :p
 
Livin The Dream said:
Don’t fancy buying into a square, horrible-feeling, expensive lens, system [emoji13]
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Are the lenses expensive? Seem to be priced very similar to Nikon but they won't be redundant or have to be used with a clunky adapter in the near future. :ROFLMAO:
 
Sir SR said:
I was waiting for the mirrorless announcement and was very underwhelmed.

Started looking at the a7riii and this is the camera Nikon should have made.
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Hi, I am wondering why Nikon chose this type of mount, making the bodies and the lenses big.

Nikon developpers are not amateurs. -

Could have something to do with future, higher resolution sensors.

With 60 or 80 MP "FF" sensors, the Z mount might work better ...
 
justpix said:
Hi, I am wondering why Nikon chose this type of mount, making the bodies and the lenses big.

Nikon developpers are not amateurs. -

Could have something to do with future, higher resolution sensors.

With 60 or 80 MP "FF" sensors, the Z mount might work better ...
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The body size isnt big, the larger mount was advertised to allow for faster lenses like the 50 0.95..... well Sony (3rd party) already has a few of those.

MP have nothing to do with mount size as the sensor size doesnt increase..... again, Sony GM lenses are marketed at 100MP+.
 
twist said:
Are the lenses expensive? Seem to be priced very similar to Nikon but they won't be redundant or have to be used with a clunky adapter in the near future. :ROFLMAO:
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There’s no denying Nikon have got a lot wrong in recent years, but they’ll bounce back, certainly not ready to do a ‘Kodak’!
 
Livin The Dream said:
There’s no denying Nikon have got a lot wrong in recent years, but they’ll bounce back, certainly not ready to do a ‘Kodak’!
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TBF they've done a lot well to. This is their first gen FF MILC, I think its pretty great for a 1st attempt..... couldve been a lot worse. Sonys 1st attempt wasn't anything amazing.
 
twist said:
MP have nothing to do with mount size as the sensor size doesnt increase..... again, Sony GM lenses are marketed at 100MP+.
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Sure, but maybe corner performance is easier to achieve. I do not know, am speculating.

But I expect some optical engineers or physicists will answer this soon. Maybe the ZEISS people will say something when they bring out Z mount lenses.
 
twist said:
TBF they've done a lot well to. This is their first gen FF MILC, I think its pretty great for a 1st attempt..... couldve been a lot worse. Sonys 1st attempt wasn't anything amazing.
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They at least got the size right :p

I liked the first gen cameras.
 
justpix said:
Sure, but maybe corner performance is easier to achieve. I do not know, am speculating.

But I expect some optical engineers or physicists will answer this soon. Maybe the ZEISS people will say something when they bring out Z mount lenses.
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I don't think we'll see why Zeiss lenses anytime soon for z-mount. Though z-mount Zeiss sounds cool :cool:
 
justpix said:
Sure, but maybe corner performance is easier to achieve. I do not know, am speculating.

But I expect some optical engineers or physicists will answer this soon. Maybe the ZEISS people will say something when they bring out Z mount lenses.
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Possibly, still early days (y)
 
Talking of Kodak,what's happened to him,why is he suspended,he must have said something he didn't mean via translation ?
Livin The Dream said:
There’s no denying Nikon have got a lot wrong in recent years, but they’ll bounce back, certainly not ready to do a ‘Kodak’!
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redhed17 said:
The science chap on DPReview, Rishi, said that the Z cameras have the best video AF of anything so far, so that is something to achieve on the first attempt. :)

Now the AF whilst taking pics... :whistle: :LOL:
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Neat for video folk
 
redhed17 said:
The science chap on DPReview, Rishi, said that the Z cameras have the best video AF of anything so far, so that is something to achieve on the first attempt. :)

Now the AF whilst taking pics... :whistle: :LOL:
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I used to think he was reliable, I am having my doubts.

I haven't read everything but don't they say AF is very good for stills also and its very sticky? While everyone else says its bad...
 
nandbytes said:
I used to think he was reliable, I am having my doubts.

I haven't read everything but don't they say AF is very good for stills also and its very sticky? While everyone else says its bad...
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Others seem to have had an hour or two with the cameras at events whilst DPReview seem to have had the cameras longer. I think I'll go with him until proved wrong. ;) He seemed to be pretty sure in his conclusions so far, as always with the caveat of pre-production firmware. ;)
 
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