The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

Now one of these have to go…

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The smallest and lightest would probably win for me but with this sort of lens it's as much about the look so which do you prefer look wise Ray?

And for those of us who don't own any of them which performs best AF and IQ wise?
 
Only took like 3 photos with the GM to make sure that it works.

Focus seems fine, not tested for sharpness but I presume it to be good. Colours on the EVF/LCD certainly looks warmer than the 1.8.

As for looks....it seems the 1.2 isn't that much larger next to the 1.8 for much bigger reward in aperture but more than double the weight, in fact it's the heaviest of the 3.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Only took like 3 photos with the GM to make sure that it works.

Focus seems fine, not tested for sharpness but I presume it to be good. Colours on the EVF/LCD certainly looks warmer than the 1.8.

As for looks....it seems the 1.2 isn't that much larger next to the 1.8 for much bigger reward in aperture but more than double the weight, in fact it's the heaviest of the 3.
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1.2L is about same size as GM on Sony if you add the adapter.
Focus is good just not 1.8 fast
 
F1.2L is definitely the hardest to use. I know a few people who refused to use it for work. The slow focussing coupled with shallow DoF and possibility of DSLR calibration misfocus made it rather hard to get keepers.
 
lose the gm. keep the 1.8 which is bar far the quickest to focus of all three. then use the 1.2 when you want that little bit of magic.
 
The 1.2 is harder but not impossible. However, it is without doubt on a technical level the worst performance AF lens of any 85 lens out there.


Focus is slow (but accurate).

CA is bad.

Sharpness is worst of all the 85mm I’ve tried, including the Canon 85/1.8, I can’t imagine the new Cano 85/1.4L being bad. So if you pixel peep, you will hate it.


However it is a 1.2 lens, an auto focus one at that and I shoot it at 1.2 a lot, in fact focus for me isn’t a problem, I have taken some of my favourite images with it, at 1.2. That’s what you are paying for, that 1.2.


The Sony 85GM and the new Canon 85/1.4L are much modern lens designs and strikes that balance of AF with bokeh much better. The Sony has 11 blades which should help with the bokeh quality for being a 1.4 (not 1.2).
 
woof woof said:
The smallest and lightest would probably win for me but with this sort of lens it's as much about the look so which do you prefer look wise Ray?

And for those of us who don't own any of them which performs best AF and IQ wise?
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AF - FE85 > 85GM > 85L

IQ is bit of a hard one to rank since different people prefer different things. As you see above Ray absolutely loves his 85L while F/1.4 doesn't seem to like it much. May its a marmite thing lol.
FE85 is sharp from wide open and bokeh is half-decent. 85GM is also very sharp from wide open has one of the best rendering+bokeh. 85L is the softest of the lot but has shallower DoF and the dreamy rendering thing going for it.
 
The comment sections under articles like that are nothing but cringe inducing. How does one become a 'fanboy'? It baffles me. A lot of it is pure case of "I bought into this, therefore it is the best!" - Most popular rarely means best, or the likes of Justin Bieber would be a musical legend.

I thought console wars were childish over the years but 'photographers and vloggers take the cake these days.
 
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Cagey75 said:
The comment sections under articles like that are nothing but cringe inducing. How does one become a 'fanboy'? It baffles me. A lot of it is pure case of "I bought into this, therefore it is the best!" - Most popular rarely means best, or the likes of Justin Bieber would be a musical legend.

I thought console wars were childish over the years but 'photographers and vloggers take the cake these days.
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Yeah things get a personal for some reason especially so on dpreview.

I can understand having a bias towards whatever you shoot since you naturally know more about it. But things like 'Nikon will overtake Sony' soon or 'Sony have killed Nikon and canon' is simply meaningless. If it was so easy to predict the future why would anyone go under :p
 
nandbytes said:
Yeah things get a personal for some reason especially so on dpreview.

I can understand having a bias towards whatever you shoot since you naturally know more about it. But things like 'Nikon will overtake Sony' soon or 'Sony have killed Nikon and canon' is simply meaningless. If it was so easy to predict the future why would anyone go under :p
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I was always a swinger ... :D I'd swing from Playstation to Xbox to Dreamcast to Nintendo when it came to consoles, I'm a bit like that with cameras too. It's whatever I fancy at that time, never been overly loyal to any one - or I'd still be shooting Nikon. I get that people can become tied to any system, it's expensive gear, you always lose when switching over - But those guys, sheesh, at least they make this place seem ultra friendly :ROFLMAO:
 
Cagey75 said:
The comment sections under articles like that are nothing but cringe inducing. How does one become a 'fanboy'? It baffles me. A lot of it is pure case of "I bought into this, therefore it is the best!" - Most popular rarely means best, or the likes of Justin Bieber would be a musical legend.

I thought console wars were childish over the years but 'photographers and vloggers take the cake these days.
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:rolleyes::popcorn::beer:
 
Cagey75 said:
I was always a swinger ... :D I'd swing from Playstation to Xbox to Dreamcast to Nintendo when it came to consoles, I'm a bit like that with cameras too. It's whatever I fancy at that time, never been overly loyal to any one - or I'd still be shooting Nikon. I get that people can become tied to any system, it's expensive gear, you always lose when switching over - But those guys, sheesh, at least they make this place seem ultra friendly :ROFLMAO:
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Same had N64, then PS1 and 2 (simply because I could play PS1 games) then Xbox 360 and now xbone (simply because I can play 360 games). I have also used PC for a long time and had Gameboy/DS handheld consoles. Now I have a GPD XD plus to play retro games again :D

But yeah console wars can get pretty heated on some forums. TBH it's like dealing with a bunch of children so I stopped going on gaming forums
 
nandbytes said:
AF - FE85 > 85GM > 85L

IQ is bit of a hard one to rank since different people prefer different things. As you see above Ray absolutely loves his 85L while F/1.4 doesn't seem to like it much. May its a marmite thing lol.
FE85 is sharp from wide open and bokeh is half-decent. 85GM is also very sharp from wide open has one of the best rendering+bokeh. 85L is the softest of the lot but has shallower DoF and the dreamy rendering thing going for it.
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I rank the 85L the least sharp but it is sharp enough, sharp enough to pixel peep even, but it will look soft compare say to the Sony Zeiss 50/1.4.

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nandbytes said:
Same had N64, then PS1 and 2 (simply because I could play PS1 games) then Xbox 360 and now xbone (simply because I can play 360 games). I have also used PC for a long time and had Gameboy/DS handheld consoles. Now I have a GPD XD plus to play retro games again :D

But yeah console wars can get pretty heated on some forums. TBH it's like dealing with a bunch of children so I stopped going on gaming forums
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Likewise. Mac vs Windows is also very childish
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
I’ve had SsSsSsSnake in various iterations on all platforms ,predominantly on PC for many years and not saying people copied me but it was around 20 years ago so
maybe.
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Like me with 'Cagey' - course it's a little more common than yours :D I only have an old Xbox elite, which is like what? 10 years old at this stage? Kids have taken over it, they're not like us, they don't care about graphics or how realistic the blood is when you shoot someone in the face :D I don't know if I'd prefer a Ps4 or xbone, pondering on either one for Christmas

Raymond Lin said:
I rank the 85L the least sharp but it is sharp enough, sharp enough to pixel peep even, but it will look soft compare say to the Sony Zeiss 50/1.4.

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To keep on topic, lovely colours
 
Yes I’ve had 2 ps4’s And xbox360’s so went for 4K tv and xbox1x ,was hoping Warthunder would come out on it and lo and behold a week later the payfor pre release came out so very pleased so far.,not been on the box since the hot weather though,gearing up for a online autumn,spitfire just developed for combat (y)
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
Yes I’ve had 2 ps4’s And xbox360’s so went for 4K tv and xbox1x ,was hoping Warthunder would come out on it and lo and behold a week later the payfor pre release came out so very pleased so far.,not been on the box since the hot weather though,gearing up for a online autumn,spitfire just developed for combat (y)
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I used to play World of Tanks on PC, but I was muck, a tomato :D haven't played in a long time. Didn't get on so well with Warthunder, found it confusing, discovered my spacial awareness is about as efficient as a snail being circled by crows!

Whoops, OT again ... er, A7!
 
is there much of a difference between the f4 anf f2.8 versions of the 70-200 besides 2.8/4?

Im debating the f4 version purely because its light and small for travelling.
 
jonneymendoza said:
is there much of a difference between the f4 anf f2.8 versions of the 70-200 besides 2.8/4?

Im debating the f4 version purely because its light and small for travelling.
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The Sony FE 70-200mm f4 is a wonderful lens mate, I think the GM is better obviously because its f2.8 and better built.
However if you need to walk about a lot, the f4 is hard to discount.

Prime example, I am off to Dubai soon and I won't be taking my FE 70-200mm f2.8 GM, yes when I went previously I happily took my 70-200mm f4 :D
 
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