The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

JJ! said:
How is that relevant to a camera that’s not even out? Olympus and Canon are still this market leaders in mirrorless globally I believe which is more relevant at this point in time :D



The GM was a lovely bit of kit. IQ on par with the Nikon ED I have. I would say a bit better built too. Silky smooth zoom and focus rings but with slightly worse paint job.

Never tried the F4, didn’t realise it extended in use though.
Click to expand...

Its relevant because it shows a market shift (at least the past 6 months in a large territory) towards FF mirrorless over DSLR, I believe this is the first time this has happened. Wether its Sony or CaNikon doesn't matter but there are still a lot of people in that thread that dont think mirrorless is good enough / is selling poorly.
 
nandbytes said:
Just been trying my 70-200 GM today. It's definitely sharper at 200mm and focussing feels faster also to focus! It's definitely a lens that's a grade or two above the 70-200 f4.
Unlike f4 version (and 100-400FM) the GM doesn't extend when zooming. So at 200mm the F4 version might actually be longer than GM.
The rendering and bokeh is very nice on the GM too.
Click to expand...

My F4 has obviously been seized up from when I got it then as there is no way I can get it to extend? :confused::rolleyes: Sounds like you are comparing the GM to the F4 without ever having tried the F4
 
Riz_Guru said:
I’m pretty sure the 70-200mm f4 is internal zooming too (doesn’t extend).
It’s a good lens regardless.
Click to expand...

That’s what I thought but thought I read a few pages back that it did. Probably early morning eyes!!
 
JJ! said:
How is that relevant to a camera that’s not even out? Olympus and Canon are still this market leaders in mirrorless globally I believe which is more relevant at this point in time :D



The GM was a lovely bit of kit. IQ on par with the Nikon ED I have. I would say a bit better built too. Silky smooth zoom and focus rings but with slightly worse paint job.

Never tried the F4, didn’t realise it extended in use though.
Click to expand...
I thought globally Sony was ahead too. Though I have no evidence to back this up but I'll look into it when I have more time....

The GM isn't actually that much bigger in comparison. But it's a lot denser and hence heavier.
Never tried ED but the GM is the best 70-200mm I have used so far (had canon, sigma, Sony a-mount in the past)

I agree paint job doesn't seem so good. Then again it's no surprise most Sony paint job sucks especially so if it's a premium lens to make things just that bit more annoying.
 
Last edited:
nandbytes said:
I thought globally Sony was ahead too. Though I have no evidence to back this up but I'll look into it when I have more time....

The f4 extends and at 200mm it's longer than GM. The GM isn't actually that much bigger in comparison. But it's a lot denser and hence heavier.
Never tried ED but the GM is the best 70-200mm I have used so far (had canon, sigma, Sony a-mount in the past)

I agree paint job doesn't seem so good. Then again it's no surprise all Sony print job sucks.
Click to expand...

I was just going off this:

https://m.dpreview.com/news/0966656...canon-dominates-dslrs-tops-sony-in-mirrorless

No idea how true reflection it is!!

Strange the F4 extends, thought they would have designed it like the Nikon version. Saying that I would take the 2.8 GM every time even with the weight!

As for it being the best - I can only go on brief use and IQ wise I could not tell the difference between it and the Nikon 70-200 (latest version). Both are ahead of the VRII though.

Not used Canon version so can’t comment!
 
Last edited:
Barrysprout said:
My F4 has obviously been seized up from when I got it then as there is no way I can get it to extend? :confused::rolleyes: Sounds like you are comparing the GM to the F4 without ever having tried the F4
Click to expand...
I owned one for nearly 6months unless my memory is wrong which it well could be.
 
JJ! said:
I was just going off this:

https://m.dpreview.com/news/0966656...canon-dominates-dslrs-tops-sony-in-mirrorless

No idea how true reflection it is!!

Strange the F4 extends, thought they would have designed it like the Nikon version. Saying that I would take the 2.8 GM every time even with the weight!

As for it being the best - I can only go on brief use and IQ wise I could not tell the difference between it and the Nikon 70-200 (latest version). Both are ahead of the VRII though.

Not used Canon version so can’t comment!
Click to expand...

But that's just in Japan isn't it?
Thats a smaller market than US/EU.

Canon version was the best in class. Could still well be especially with the new version coming out. I only used it with adapter.

I had f4 long time ago when it first came out. But current owners are saying it doesn't extend. So I apologize for misleading :sorry:
 
Last edited:
Riz_Guru said:
I’m pretty sure the 70-200mm f4 is internal zooming too (doesn’t extend).
It’s a good lens regardless.
Click to expand...
Yes it's a great lens. Sharp wide open through out the range and AF was great with A6000. So I am sure it'll be better with more recent bodies.
 
nandbytes said:
But that's just in Japan isn't it?
Thats a smaller market than US/EU.

Canon version was the best in class. Could still well be especially with the new version coming out. I only used it with adapter.

I had f4 long time ago when it first came out. But current owners are saying it doesn't extend. So I apologize for misleading :sorry:
Click to expand...
The gm is now as good if not better than the Canon apparently. And the mk3 has next to no iq difference. Just a new lick of pain (literally)
 
nandbytes said:
Unlike f4 version (and 100-400FM) the GM doesn't extend when zooming. So at 200mm the F4 version might actually be longer than GM.
The rendering and bokeh is very nice on the GM too.
Click to expand...

JJ! said:
Never tried the F4, didn’t realise it extended in use though.
Click to expand...


I am going to assume that my version must be broken then, as it does not extend externally at all, only the internals move when zooming,
 
RPhotos said:
I am going to assume that my version must be broken then, as it does not extend externally at all, only the internals move when zooming,
Click to expand...

As others have said the 70-200 F4 zooms internally, not externally so you are ok :)
 
I wonder if Sony will ever release any TSE lenses, although it makes no difference as they are all MF, can just use Canon glass for that.
 
Might be a bit too niche to be imminent :D Do Nikon do any?
 
woof woof said:
Might be a bit too niche to be imminent :D Do Nikon do any?
Click to expand...

They do and dare as say it, it's not as good as the Canon versions. It is VERY niche and Nikon hasn't updated theirs in quite a long time I believe whereas Canon has been updating some of them quite recently.
 
I tell you one thing, shooing EVF with the TSE is perfect, because with TSE, if you get perfect exposure on a photo without any tilt or shift, the second you tilt, depending which direction you are doing it, you are either introducing more light or reducing light into the sensor without changing the aperture. With OVF you are guessing how much light it is changing, one direction you have to compensate for MORE, the other with less. I've shot many shots completely blown because I forgot, all because I tilt.

Also with DMF, you can see exactly where the focus plane is, instead of kind of guessing that's roughly where it is.
 
I toyed with thd idea of getting a 3rd party one when I had Canon but I never got around to it. It was a Harbiteli... or something like that.
 
Any good intervalometer for the A7III? Preferably wired.
 
Hello all

I'm thinking of buying a Used A7ii - anything to look out for ?

To keep weight down I will be looking at the AF Samyang lenses...

cheers
 
As I was missing the Leica Q, finally decided to buy the 28mm f2.0 FE lens.

Probably should have gotten this instead of the 35mm 2.8 I got a while back and sold on after a week.

smaller than all my other lenses, should be nice for street photography and be a bit more discrete and less heavy
 
dancook said:
As I was missing the Leica Q, finally decided to buy the 28mm f2.0 FE lens.

Probably should have gotten this instead of the 35mm 2.8 I got a while back and sold on after a week.

smaller than all my other lenses, should be nice for street photography and be a bit more discrete and less heavy
Click to expand...

Should've kept the q
 
Did a nice shoot in the woods today with mk3 and the 35 sigma and 85 L 1.2 all adapted!

It only flipped out on me 2 or 3 times during the shoot(losing af) but did well most of the time
 
DSC03540, on Flickr

Loxia 85mm A7ii
 
Last edited:
3000 photos shot this weekend (two weddings, over 22 hours), nearly all of them with either the Sigma 35mm 1.4 or Sigma 85mm 1.4, both Canon fit with the MC-11 adaptor on a7RIIs.

Just culled them, one (ONE!) out of focus shot from the whole lot. Considering that included birds of prey in a dark church and 10pm fireworks with a dancing couple I'm pretty pleased to say the least. First time assigning Eye AF to the toggle switch and using the centre button to 'back button' focus as well, can't believe I've not done that before now!

I'm struggling to process what a a7III and the native Sigma Arts would be like as my combos really were perfect.
 
ukaskew said:
3000 photos shot this weekend (two weddings, over 22 hours), nearly all of them with either the Sigma 35mm 1.4 or Sigma 85mm 1.4, both Canon fit with the MC-11 adaptor on a7RIIs.

Just culled them, one (ONE!) out of focus shot from the whole lot. Considering that included birds of prey in a dark church and 10pm fireworks with a dancing couple I'm pretty pleased to say the least. First time assigning Eye AF to the toggle switch and using the centre button to 'back button' focus as well, can't believe I've not done that before now!

I'm struggling to process what a a7III and the native Sigma Arts would be like as my combos really were perfect.
Click to expand...
What body where you using? (Edit rIi’s can’t read clearly, have been thinking of getting one as stop gap solution as well but the reasons below put me off)

Tbh the main advantages of the a7iii are dual card slots, bigger battery, and the af point selection joystick which is awesome compared the older way of selecting af points on the Sony’s. Although I still wish the af point was a different colour to grey
 
Last edited:
ukaskew said:
3000 photos shot this weekend (two weddings, over 22 hours), nearly all of them with either the Sigma 35mm 1.4 or Sigma 85mm 1.4, both Canon fit with the MC-11 adaptor on a7RIIs.

Just culled them, one (ONE!) out of focus shot from the whole lot. Considering that included birds of prey in a dark church and 10pm fireworks with a dancing couple I'm pretty pleased to say the least. First time assigning Eye AF to the toggle switch and using the centre button to 'back button' focus as well, can't believe I've not done that before now!

I'm struggling to process what a a7III and the native Sigma Arts would be like as my combos really were perfect.
Click to expand...

So all shot at 1.4 ? or f 11? or...
 
ukaskew said:
3000 photos shot this weekend (two weddings, over 22 hours), nearly all of them with either the Sigma 35mm 1.4 or Sigma 85mm 1.4, both Canon fit with the MC-11 adaptor on a7RIIs.

Just culled them, one (ONE!) out of focus shot from the whole lot. Considering that included birds of prey in a dark church and 10pm fireworks with a dancing couple I'm pretty pleased to say the least. First time assigning Eye AF to the toggle switch and using the centre button to 'back button' focus as well, can't believe I've not done that before now!

I'm struggling to process what a a7III and the native Sigma Arts would be like as my combos really were perfect.
Click to expand...

The AF is good but not that good.
 
Raymond Lin said:
The AF is good but not that good.
Click to expand...

As in you don't think I only had one OOF photo from 3000? Happy to confirm otherwise, have no reason to oversell it. Probably 40% Eye AF, the rest just standard AF-C with a medium AF box. On both days the only slowdown was the first dance (i.e. very dark).

wambam said:
So all shot at 1.4 ? or f 11? or...
Click to expand...

A very large percentage at f1.4 (for both the 35 and 85). Bumped up to f3.2 or thereabouts for most of the group shots.

RPhotos said:
Tbh the main advantages of the a7iii are dual card slots, bigger battery, and the af point selection joystick
Click to expand...

I found the battery life to be fine, I used two per camera each day but even then that was with giving myself a very comfortable buffer, usually changing them before 20%. At a guess I would have been averaging 600 shots per battery had I ran them down further. They are permanently in Airplane mode which I would guess helps a bit. I have a couple of OEMs and the rest Ravpower, they are all just mixed together as I've noticed no difference between them.

The AF point selection was/is easily the biggest annoyance with the a7RII. Fine for Eye AF as that's pretty remarkable for hanging on, but regular AF-C could be fiddly at times. I've set it all up with custom buttons to be as quick as is possible but yep, if anything was going to push me into an upgrade it would be that.
 
Last edited:
A7RII was actually quite good for tracking. It did struggle a little on low light. I think sometimes people exaggerate the issues.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top