The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

jj_glos said:
Hmmm, I wonder if it is an A7III/A9 difference? I haven't used the 35 to track someone sprinting at me (not really my choice of lens for that!), but it's perfectly fine for walking/playing about so far.
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If it works for you theres not much point in going for native, save the quids for something else. (y)
 
Thought i’d say hi to the thread as a recent Sony convert who has recently moved from Canon 5D3 to Fuji X-T2 and now to Sony A7RIII. I’m impressed with the camera so far - bit of a learning curve but impressed at flexibility and customisation options. Have bought 16-35 GM, 24-70 GM, and 55 1.8/851.8 thus far. No telezoom yet and struggling on that front. 70-200 (4 or 2.8), 70-300 G or 100-400. I have conflicting requirements where I want the best possible, the lightest possible, Black not white, the fastest possible, the most versatile, the best value etc. From experience, I know I will instantly and permanently regret whichever aspect turns out to be the compromise. I’m sure you’ve all been there. Or is it just me? lol!
 
twist said:
If it works for you theres not much point in going for native, save the quids for something else. (y)
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I've only bought the 50mm as my old one wouldn't work with the converter, it's nice to have a native lens as well :D

My plan is to wait and see what Canikon bring to the table. I'm liking the A9 though, especially as I've sorted out the handling, will my patience hold... :o
 
jj_glos said:
I've only bought the 50mm as my old one wouldn't work with the converter, it's nice to have a native lens as well :D

My plan is to wait and see what Canikon bring to the table. I'm liking the A9 though, especially as I've sorted out the handling, will my patience hold... :eek:
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Well it'll have to unless you want an eosm or Nikon 1..... Spits. I really hope they bring something worthwhile but canon has that mindset about tiny increments and crippling.
 
I know the Sigma lenses are going to be the size that they are, but with every lens adding that extra 2 inches….you are going to need a new bag/case.

e.g., it won't fit standing up in my pelican for example. Those who wants to sell their DSLR gear and replace it like for like (especially if you get Sigma lenses) really need to think twice.

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Raymond Lin said:
I know the Sigma lenses are going to be the size that they are, but with every lens adding that extra 2 inches….you are going to need a new bag/case.

e.g., it won't fit standing up in my pelican for example. Those who wants to sell their DSLR gear and replace it like for like (especially if you get Sigma lenses) really need to think twice.

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2 inches? Time to get your ruler fixed.
 
Simes123 said:
Thought i’d say hi to the thread as a recent Sony convert who has recently moved from Canon 5D3 to Fuji X-T2 and now to Sony A7RIII. I’m impressed with the camera so far - bit of a learning curve but impressed at flexibility and customisation options. Have bought 16-35 GM, 24-70 GM, and 55 1.8/851.8 thus far. No telezoom yet and struggling on that front. 70-200 (4 or 2.8), 70-300 G or 100-400. I have conflicting requirements where I want the best possible, the lightest possible, Black not white, the fastest possible, the most versatile, the best value etc. From experience, I know I will instantly and permanently regret whichever aspect turns out to be the compromise. I’m sure you’ve all been there. Or is it just me? lol!
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Have to admit I absolutely love the 70-200 2.8 especially (wait for it) for portrait shots. The background separation is supreme and really makes the subject stand out.

Hmm I went from Canon 5D -> Canon 1D MK IV -> Nikon D300S -> Nikon D3 -> Olympus EM-5 (for portability) -> Sony A7R III.

I have not really regretted any of it, my favourite jump by far was moving from heavy DSLR to the Oly kit. With the Sony lenses (especially the glass I like) it is back to heavier/more bulky but no where near as much as the DSLR stuff.

The A7R III is certainly a learning curve and it is a constant reminder to me how much this amazing mirrorless technology has come on.
 
Sony need the sensor sales. It'll be interesting to see if the mkIII's finally get Sony selling more mirrorless than Canon in Japan.

I thought Nikon use the base Sony sensor but still add their tech around its implementation in their cameras?
 
jj_glos said:
Sony need the sensor sales. It'll be interesting to see if the mkIII's finally get Sony selling more mirrorless than Canon in Japan.

I thought Nikon use the base Sony sensor but still add their tech around its implementation in their cameras?
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Quite a few camera companies use Sony sensors - I think Canon started selling their sensors to other companies in 2016; two years on from when their new fabrication plan went live.

Here is a good answer back in 2015

https://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/69457/what-camera-companies-make-their-own-sensors
 
razor777 said:
Have to admit I absolutely love the 70-200 2.8 especially (wait for it) for portrait shots. The background separation is supreme and really makes the subject stand out.

Hmm I went from Canon 5D -> Canon 1D MK IV -> Nikon D300S -> Nikon D3 -> Olympus EM-5 (for portability) -> Sony A7R III.

I have not really regretted any of it, my favourite jump by far was moving from heavy DSLR to the Oly kit. With the Sony lenses (especially the glass I like) it is back to heavier/more bulky but no where near as much as the DSLR stuff.

The A7R III is certainly a learning curve and it is a constant reminder to me how much this amazing mirrorless technology has come on.
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I think I'd reached a point on my 5D3 when the 5D4 came out at an incredibly expensive launch price, that I was done with Canon. The limited tiny incremental upgrades, the crippling, the holding back of features, pricing strategy, and what was obsolescent mirror technology made me think there was no point in buying mirrored cameras any more when they were so expensive, so big, but would be worth so little in relatively short order. The X-T2 cost me little more to buy than amount the 5D4 has depreciated. I'm back up size wise to full frame and I'm good with that as long as I can reduce the size for when I want to travel light. I think the size of the Sony means it can be both a serious FF camera, and a reasonably compact travel camera with superb quality. I'm not naive enough to think it won't depreciate more than the X-T2 costs, but it's cost me a lot less than the 5D4 would have done. (That's if I ignore the extra premium for the lenses....) I'd like the 70-200 2.8, but need to get over the size and weight of that or at least persuade myself I'll not leave it at home as often as I did with the Canon 2.8 II. In ideal world, I'd have an F4 for travel, and an F2.8 for everything else, but I don't use those Focal Lengths hugely, and I'm strictly amateur use now (I just like nice gear :) ) so both is out of the question. I think it will end up being the 2.8 version, with tape around the white bits.
 
Simes123 said:
I think I'd reached a point on my 5D3 when the 5D4 came out at an incredibly expensive launch price, that I was done with Canon. The limited tiny incremental upgrades, the crippling, the holding back of features, pricing strategy, and what was obsolescent mirror technology made me think there was no point in buying mirrored cameras any more when they were so expensive, so big, but would be worth so little in relatively short order. The X-T2 cost me little more to buy than amount the 5D4 has depreciated. I'm back up size wise to full frame and I'm good with that as long as I can reduce the size for when I want to travel light. I think the size of the Sony means it can be both a serious FF camera, and a reasonably compact travel camera with superb quality. I'm not naive enough to think it won't depreciate more than the X-T2 costs, but it's cost me a lot less than the 5D4 would have done. (That's if I ignore the extra premium for the lenses....) I'd like the 70-200 2.8, but need to get over the size and weight of that or at least persuade myself I'll not leave it at home as often as I did with the Canon 2.8 II. In ideal world, I'd have an F4 for travel, and an F2.8 for everything else, but I don't use those Focal Lengths hugely, and I'm strictly amateur use now (I just like nice gear :) ) so both is out of the question. I think it will end up being the 2.8 version, with tape around the white bits.
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Yes, the weight is definitely a determining factor on what you plan to do with it. I don't mind to be honest but it can be a pain if you have all your lenses in one bag, I'm deffo amateur with no interest in the commercial/pro aspect but I know what I like hence the selection.

Somewhat amusingly I took a 24-70mm 2.8, 70-200mm 2.8 and the 85mm 1.8 with me three weeks ago to Cyprus ! Ended up having an argument with the checkin staff (i mean come on it was like .5 kg over the limit) and the missus was having kittens in case it got damaged/stolen but you know.. insurance.

Check-in allowed me to take the camera onboard in the end and I loved taking the kit to get those holiday snaps. Obviously had to keep the missus happy too by doing the odd beach walk. Ahem.
 
jj_glos said:
Sony need the sensor sales. It'll be interesting to see if the mkIII's finally get Sony selling more mirrorless than Canon in Japan.

I thought Nikon use the base Sony sensor but still add their tech around its implementation in their cameras?
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Nikon uses its own processing and they used to get better results from Sony sensors than Sony could but that's changed. I thought the a6k was the best selling mirrorless worldwide.
 
razor777 said:
Yes, the weight is definitely a determining factor on what you plan to do with it. I don't mind to be honest but it can be a pain if you have all your lenses in one bag, I'm deffo amateur with no interest in the commercial/pro aspect but I know what I like hence the selection.

Somewhat amusingly I took a 24-70mm 2.8, 70-200mm 2.8 and the 85mm 1.8 with me three weeks ago to Cyprus ! Ended up having an argument with the checkin staff (i mean come on it was like .5 kg over the limit) and the missus was having kittens in case it got damaged/stolen but you know.. insurance.

Check-in allowed me to take the camera onboard in the end and I loved taking the kit to get those holiday snaps. Obviously had to keep the missus happy too by doing the odd beach walk. Ahem.
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Oh no - that's a bit of a nightmare - which airline was checking weight of carry on bags and I'll be sure never to book with them ever again! For travel, I'm anticipating a 35mm (or 16-35), 55mm, 85mm primes combo but I do mix and match. I found even with the Fuji, I'd tend to leave the 50-140 behind to keep my bag light, so in practice, I should at most be considering the F4 Sony which is about the same as the Fuji lens physically. On the other hand, I can justify a logic that says fair enough, you won't always want to carry this lens, but if you have it, then at least if you need it, you can bring it along. That's when I start to think the 100-400 fits that logic, as it's big, but no bigger than the 2.8 that I'd also leave at home often lol. I need help.
 
razor777 said:
Yes, the weight is definitely a determining factor on what you plan to do with it. I don't mind to be honest but it can be a pain if you have all your lenses in one bag, I'm deffo amateur with no interest in the commercial/pro aspect but I know what I like hence the selection.

Somewhat amusingly I took a 24-70mm 2.8, 70-200mm 2.8 and the 85mm 1.8 with me three weeks ago to Cyprus ! Ended up having an argument with the checkin staff (i mean come on it was like .5 kg over the limit) and the missus was having kittens in case it got damaged/stolen but you know.. insurance.

Check-in allowed me to take the camera onboard in the end and I loved taking the kit to get those holiday snaps. Obviously had to keep the missus happy too by doing the odd beach walk. Ahem.
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stick a lens or 2 in your pocket.

Done that before….
 
Simes123 said:
Is that a Grand Master in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me, Sir!
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This is a story i've told before. 6 months ago I went to Japan.

Backpack with MBP, headphones, Nintendo Switch, 5D4, 35L, Sigma 50A, 85L. Bag is easily like 10kg.

Leg 1 - Heathrow to Tokyo, BA, 23kg luggage, no problem. Except I have an internal flight straight away.

Leg 2 - Tokyo to Fukuoka with Jetstar, weight limit 7kg.

Checked in suitcase and got to the gate and saw them with a scales on the floor weighing everyone's bags.

I then proceed to put the headphones over my head, filters and batteries in my jeans pockets. A 35L in left coat pocket and 50A in right coat pocket. Managed to just squeeze in under the weight limit.

Of course 10 ft after the scales when i was in the tunnel I put everything back inside the bag.
 
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Sony competition...

Steve Huff reports that the rumored new Leica FF camera is actually a $21k special edition M10 and the new small camera is a rebadged Panny TZ200...

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2018/...10-the-new-edition-zagato-car-home-or-camera/

Well whoopie doo on both counts.

I have the similar TZ100 and it's a nice camera, I just don't understand anyone who buys these rebadged Pannys at inflated prices.
 
Raymond Lin said:
This is a story i've told before. 6 months ago I went to Japan...
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I take a soft sports bag as carry on and I put my cameras inside in their own bags plus my jacket if I take it off. This has never been a problem but at Abu Dhabi last year they had the smallest trays I've ever seen, I'm sure they were smaller than other years and they declared my bag as oversized but I took my jacket out and as it's a soft bag I just scrunched it up so it fit. My point being you can't be sure unless you read the small print, if it's there.
 
woof woof said:
I take a soft sports bag as carry on and I put my cameras inside in their own bags plus my jacket if I take it off. This has never been a problem but at Abu Dhabi last year they had the smallest trays I've ever seen, I'm sure they were smaller than other years and they declared my bag as oversized but I took my jacket out and as it's a soft bag I just scrunched it up so it fit. My point being you can't be sure unless you read the small print, if it's there.
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Generally I go for BA due to the 23kg weight limit but Jetstar has a 7kg.

The other time i couldn't carry my gear on carry on was when i had the pelican with me. Which survived but both latches were open when i got it back, only held together with the padlocks. That was with United.
 
Another travel thing...

I've given up putting my bag in the overhead after I saw some clown ramming his hard case in time after time to make room for it. I felt like chinning him.
 
twist said:
Nikon uses its own processing and they used to get better results from Sony sensors than Sony could but that's changed. I thought the a6k was the best selling mirrorless worldwide.
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Worldwide I don't know, I was on about their home market of Japan where Olympus have been ruling the roost for mirrorless and for the last two years Canon have edged out Sony to take second place.
 
They say a picture paints a thousand words but you could maybe condense them to "Dad, I'm soooo disappointed in you." :D
 
4xd750 bodies, 2x85mm, 2x35mm 24mm and 45mm, flashes, batteries and chargers. All in one think tank bag. Never had anyone stop me or weigh the bag. Viva aer lingus!
 
decigallen said:
4xd750 bodies, 2x85mm, 2x35mm 24mm and 45mm, flashes, batteries and chargers. All in one think tank bag. Never had anyone stop me or weigh the bag. Viva aer lingus!
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Which think tank bag for that lot Dec?

I’m a fan of the bags and could do with upgrading my ‘store most kit’ bag.
 
I use a Think Tank Respective 6 as hand luggage when travelling on planes. It is like a Tardis and holds all I ever need. Really pleased with it and would recommend it or one of the others from their range to suit your needs.
 
Whats the handiest way to toggle face detect off and on? Like when Im shooting a portrait and want to focus on eyelashes etc shooting downwards.

Thanks
 
Livin The Dream said:
Which think tank bag for that lot Dec?

I’m a fan of the bags and could do with upgrading my ‘store most kit’ bag.
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Airport international, mate. Looks really neat and inconspicuous. We had a mandatory check in bag order with easyjet and when I opened the bag and explained to them the cost of the gear, they let it through.

Those think tank bags feel bullet proof. Couldn't recommend them more.
 
F/1.4 said:
Whats the handiest way to toggle face detect off and on? Like when Im shooting a portrait and want to focus on eyelashes etc shooting downwards.

Thanks
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Custom button, or second fastest will be having it in the fn menu
 
The customisation is really, really great. It would be stubborn of Nikon and Canon not to follow that model with their future mirrorless cameras. I'd love a front C5 button - nestled between the lens mount and grip like Nikon have.
 
RPhotos said:
How’s the sigma 35mm going, and did you ever have the Samyang version, would be interesting to hear a direct comparison
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The Sigma 35 is in a different league to the Samyang

I actually didn't like the bokeh or rendering of the Samyang looking back on images

Sharper, faster and infinitely more consistent. Had abit of a quirk with the AF and gonna get another one to see if it has the same issue. About to shoot a wedding with all Sony and Sigma art natives so ill let you know how I get on. Done shoots with the 50 and 85, theyre absolutely perfect
 
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F/1.4 said:
The Sigma 35 is in a different league to the Samyang

I actually didn't like the bokeh or rendering of the Samyang looking back on images

Sharper, faster and infinitely more consistent. Had abit of a quirk with the AF and gonna get another one to see if it has the same issue. About to shoot a wedding with all Sony and Sigma art natives so ill let you know how I get on. Done shoots with the 50 and 85, theyre absolutely perfect
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Which Samyang did you have? 1.4 or 2.8?
 
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