The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

woof woof said:
The rumor site reports a Sigma firmware update for an adapter and some lenses...

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sigma-firmware-updates/#disqus_thread

They say...

"Sigma released new firmware updates for the MC-11 adapter and lenses:

Sigma MC-11 EF-E 2018/06/12 v.1.14

  • It has become compatible with the SIGMA 105mm F1.4 DG HSM｜Art for Canon.
  • It has become compatible with the SIGMA interchangeable lenses for Canon that have the latest firmware Ver.2.01.
Art lenses (e.g. 1.4/50) 2018/06/12 v2.01

  • It has corrected the phenomenon that the continuous shooting speed of some SIGMA interchangeable lenses with firmware Ver.2.00 decreases in certain combinations with some cameras.
Here are the 2.01 updates for the following lenses:
18-35mm F1.8 DC HSM A013
24-35mm F2 DG HSM A015
24-70mm F2.8 DG OS HSM A017
35mm F1.4 DG HSM A012
50mm F1.4 DG HSM A014
85mm F1.4 DG HSM A016
135mm F1.8 DG HSM A017
100-400mm F5-6.3 DG OS HSM C017"
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Does the lens updates apply to e mount ?
 
F/1.4 said:
Does the lens updates apply to e mount ?
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Dunno... If you follow the link to the lens firmware page next to each lens there's a "detail" you can click on which gives more... detail.

I've had a quick look and it seems to say slightly different things for each lens so if you have any of these lenses or are interesting in buying any I'd guess it's worth doing the update.
 
Obviously this is EF Mount only at the moment but it’s good to see how compact the new AF 85/1.4 is from Samyang.

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Will be good to see if a future FE version is this compact (obviously with a spacer for the flange depth).
 
stevelmx5 said:
Obviously this is EF Mount only at the moment but it’s good to see how compact the new AF 85/1.4 is from Samyang.

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Will be good to see if a future FE version is this compact (obviously with a spacer for the flange depth).
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Samyang will get excited in producing this similar lens in FE mount :D
 
PS.

Not Sony related but as I'm here... There's a thread on this site and someones posted pictures of his "little man." I don't suppose I'm the only one who was intrigued but nervous when clicking the link.
 
Just seen that Sigmas other E mount glass (16mm etc) can be firmware updated via the camera. Hopefully this will be the case for the Native art lenses too
 
A little public ridicule never hurt anyone... Well OK it did but what does anyone buying into Canon's hobbled CSC expect.


And just to be clear :D
 
F/1.4 said:
Just seen that Sigmas other E mount glass (16mm etc) can be firmware updated via the camera. Hopefully this will be the case for the Native art lenses too
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Where did you see this?

Any word on the ART 35 replacement?
 
nandbytes said:
Where did you see this?

Any word on the ART 35 replacement?
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On sigmas website the information about the other e mount lenses is done via the camera and an exe file.

Ive been testing all 3 lenses pretty extensively and the 85 actually does something similar when jumping between long range focus. Very very rarely. Ive a feeling it may may a property of these lenses or maybe something a firmware update may sort

I shot a wedding on saturday with the 35 50 and 85 and they didnt miss a single shot and I never once noticed the focus quirk. They were extremely impressive. I may not even bother to send it back

Shooting another wedding today and I will decide tonight what to do. UK Digital have one held for me and will post it once I send them tracking of the one I have

The downside is my lower back was pretty sore carting the gear about for 13 hours
 
The focus quirk... I see something similar with some of my MFT lenses, a sort of bounce, maybe something to do with CSC on the sensor focusing.
 
robinsslee said:
Did not know that one is allowed to shout if they don't buy similar gear, hmm... well that is not my way anyway... ;)
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It's called humor :D

And no, no one will take serious P out of anyone and nothing you see in this thread will be anything like the fanboy madness you see in other threads. Us Sony users are far too mature and sophisticated for that sort of silliness.
 
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woof woof said:
The focus quirk... I see something similar with some of my MFT lenses, a sort of bounce, maybe something to do with CSC on the sensor focusing.
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It doesnt ever do it tracking etc only when jumping between 2 long ranges, it doesnt even always do it. Id be more concerned if it was causing misses etc
 
I see the "bounce" with some lenses on my Panasonic cameras when going from near to far / far to near but not for subjects at similar distances. I thought it was something to do with Panasonics focus tech but strange that it happens with some lenses and not others.
 
F/1.4 said:
On sigmas website the information about the other e mount lenses is done via the camera and an exe file.

Ive been testing all 3 lenses pretty extensively and the 85 actually does something similar when jumping between long range focus. Very very rarely. Ive a feeling it may may a property of these lenses or maybe something a firmware update may sort

I shot a wedding on saturday with the 35 50 and 85 and they didnt miss a single shot and I never once noticed the focus quirk. They were extremely impressive. I may not even bother to send it back

Shooting another wedding today and I will decide tonight what to do. UK Digital have one held for me and will post it once I send them tracking of the one I have

The downside is my lower back was pretty sore carting the gear about for 13 hours
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Nice... Thanks for detailed response.
The thing is old Minolta HS lenses i.e. high speed lenses used to do this 'jumping' to achieve focus quickly. But they were incredibly fast and dead accurate. I wonder if sigma is doing the same.

How would say the AF on 35 ART compares to 50mm ART?

Also you wouldn't happen to have shot with fast AF native lenses like Sony Zeiss 35mm/1.4 or FE85/1.8 to compare the AF speed against?
 
nandbytes said:
Nice... Thanks for detailed response.
The thing is old Minolta HS lenses i.e. high speed lenses used to do this 'jumping' to achieve focus quickly. But they were incredibly fast and dead accurate. I wonder if sigma is doing the same.

How would say the AF on 35 ART compares to 50mm ART?

Also you wouldn't happen to have shot with fast AF native lenses like Sony Zeiss 35mm/1.4 or FE85/1.8 to compare the AF speed against?
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Its hard to say. I think the 50 is abit faster and the 85 is probably one of the fastest if not the fastest 85 1.4 I have ever used

I owned the Batis 85, Sony 85, Samyang 35 1.4 and Zeiss 55 and theyre all very fast lenses. The Samyang was definitely not as good accuracy wise in my experience

I thought the batis and Sony was quite close but the batis had better IQ and had IS which maybe slowed it down a fraction.
 
Sooo, my Sigma 50 was part of the first batch, its "faulty" well not faulty just it needs a FW update as it has a bug which I confirmed with Sigma. AF during video recording doesn't work at all. The new Arts don't have a dock or camera FW updates which was confirmed by Sigma so it needs to go in or returned for refund. Which way they will go in the future in terms of FW updates Im not sure but theres no dock in the near future or camera FW updates.

This has me looking at options again. I like the IQ a lot but Ive gotten so used to the 85FE 1.8 size/weight Im thinking of giving the SZ55 one more go, maybe I will get a better look/colour etc out of the A7mk3 new image processing as I wasn't to impressed with it on the original A7 and A7S. The fast and silent video AF is an attraction to where the Sigma seems to suffer a lot vs fast AF in stills.

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twist said:
Sooo, my Sigma 50 was part of the first batch, its "faulty" well not faulty just it needs a FW update as it has a bug which I confirmed with Sigma. AF during video recording doesn't work at all. The new Arts don't have a dock or camera FW updates which was confirmed by Sigma so it needs to go in or returned for refund. Which way they will go in the future in terms of FW updates Im not sure but theres no dock in the near future or camera FW updates.

This has me looking at options again. I like the IQ a lot but Ive gotten so used to the 85FE 1.8 size/weight Im thinking of giving the SZ55 one more go, maybe I will get a better look/colour etc out of the A7mk3 new image processing as I wasn't to impressed with it on the original A7 and A7S. The fast and silent video AF is an attraction to where the Sigma seems to suffer a lot vs fast AF in stills.

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I'd be very confident that there will be firmware updates via the camera. Existing E mount sigma lenses already support this
 
F/1.4 said:
I'd be very confident that there will be firmware updates via the camera. Existing E mount sigma lenses already support this
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Those are mirrorless lenses created from the ground up. Will have to wait and see.
 
twist said:
Those are mirrorless lenses created from the ground up. Will have to wait and see.
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The part bolted onto the lens is the bit that would be updated, which is basically a better mc-11
 
F/1.4 said:
I'd be very confident that there will be firmware updates via the camera. Existing E mount sigma lenses already support this
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I agree. I am sure I read somewhere recently that this was the case.
 
SsSsSsSsSnake said:
Thanks@Twist for the pm on the link to that nice Canon offer,puts the A7 to shame :rolleyes::LOL::ROFLMAO:
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You aren't comparing a FF A7 to an APS-C Canon CSC are you? I'd argue they're different cameras.

On the subject of offers and pointing and laughing... buy the Canon and we'll point and laugh but you can retaliate by waving the money you've saved.

And just for Robin, that's a :D
 
Steve Huff looks at a Voigtlander lens and uses it on both an A7RIII and Leica SL...

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2018/...ce-review-a-beauty-for-your-leica-sl-or-sony/

He says "Now the Sony which is not as good as it exhibits some severe Vignetting and Bokeh is slightly different."

The bokeh varies with the camera? I'd have thought it was vastly more to do with the lens with I'd have thought maybe minor effect due to resolution, maybe, and other in camera and processing stuff but not to any great effect if the cameras are anywhere near similar in tech. Looking at his wall and tree shots the WB varies a lot. I'd have equalised that a bit before making a judgement.

So, same lens but different camera = noticeably different bokeh? Does it?
 
Well, before I believe him on his bokeh assertion I'd like to either see for myself or read someone elses opinion.

I may be wrong but I'd have assumed that for whole images viewed normally taken with similar format cameras of similar tech the impact on bokeh will be minimal compared to the effect the lens has.

PS.
Actually I've taken lots of pictures which can be used for comparison already but not of the same subject at the same time as I've used quite a few lenses on my A7 and Pany MFT cameras and the results are what I'd expect... The Sony / Pany pictures are what I'd expect from old FF lenses and when used on a MFT there are no bokeh surprises.

Oh well...
 
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The rumor site... new Samyang 85mm f1.4 for Canon may come for Sony too...

https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sam...-it-might-come-for-sony-fe-too/#disqus_thread

All are welcome but I do wish manufacturers would design lenses specifically for the A7/9 and not just weld an adapter to a DSLR design. I suppose it may be a question of financial viability but AFAIK there have been MFT and APS-C CSC specific lenses without a built in adapter.
 
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