The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

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Honestly, this thread is embarrassing.
 
ohms12 said:
Have you, aye? Make sure you post the RAW files here for us all to edit, then. And whilst you're at it, the prices and exact locations of where you purchased all of your gear, please.

Gotta be a team player on this thread, amirite guys?!
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No lol
 
jonneymendoza said:
Yea how is Sony supposed to fix that so called issue if they don't know how to and can't reproduce it?

Raymond tried last night and no issues.
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I haven't been to Luminous Landscape since they saw the light and banned me :D but before I was banned I'm sure I read that they tried to reproduce the issue and couldn't. I think Steve Huff failed too.

There's a part of me that loves the kit side of it so I'd love an affected raw to process for myself but I haven't been able to find one today, not here and not in the thread over at DPR. I may look another day.

It may be that this issue only appears when the subject is heavily back lit and possibly the exposure needs pushing post capture too and if that's the case it may not affect me but it would be nice to see the evidence and what needs to be done to a picture get it to show and at what magnification it shows.

These are all questions for another day.

And I do apologise to any forumers who were upset by my little outburst earlier. I'm sure there's a helpline you can ring.
 
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jonneymendoza said:
I've yet to see many reporting it in other forums.

There are Many people who have this camera. Just takes a couple to easily reproduce it in a specific setting and scenario
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I've seen it on DPR and Sony alpha, and that chinese site that was linked from DPR. However, as we know the internet skews these things. I bet the majority of A7iii owners are blissfully unaware that the issue even exists let alone ever see it (y)
 
snerkler said:
I've seen it on DPR and Sony alpha, and that chinese site that was linked from DPR. However, as we know the internet skews these things. I bet the majority of A7iii owners are blissfully unaware that the issue even exists let alone ever see it (y)
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Which is my point. Not seen people who have the camera experience this issue.

Compared to say the stop down focus issue that anyone can try and replicate
 
simonbarker said:
https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/6769434587/sony-a7-iii-sample-photos/6081204033
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Yes thanks. I have looked through those but that backlit lady with the sun glasses doesn't seem to be there or if she is I keep missing her.

I did try this with my lowly and unaffected by all this A7 just to see what would happen but even here at first the Mrs was just a silhouette and this shot was taken with +1.7 dialled in at ISO 2,500. This is what the raw looks like with CS5 defaults before further processing...


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I just did this to see if the shot would be useable and it is... useable as a whole image on screen or in a small print and after being pushed another +1.7. At 100% it's a mess. I actually prefer a B&W version.

Anyway, I did this just to see if there are circumstances in which I'd want a heavily backlit subject boosted a lot post capture and I don't think I will be taking shots like this too often.

It would still be nice to have a go at a raw showing the stripes one day :D
 
woof woof said:
Yes thanks. I have looked through those but that backlit lady with the sun glasses doesn't seem to be there or if she is I keep missing her.
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Why obsess over that one photo?

I've given you a link to a raw with the effect occurring as you requested.

Just having a backlit scene isn't enough, if it was you'd be seeing far more reports, in a photo it wasn't intended for you generally only see it on flares. You can see that in the photo I linked to, the white of the light doesn't show it, the purple flare just underneath does.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Which is my point. Not seen people who have the camera experience this issue.

Compared to say the stop down focus issue that anyone can try and replicate
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So you believe that dpr testers are liars?

They are people after all that used the camera.
 
simonbarker said:
Why obsess over that one photo?

I've given you a link to a raw with the effect occurring as you requested.

Just having a backlit scene isn't enough, if it was you'd be seeing far more reports, in a photo it wasn't intended for you generally only see it on flares. You can see that in the photo I linked to, the white of the light doesn't show it, the purple flare just underneath does.
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Calm down. There's no need for yet more tantrums. I'm not obsessing, I'm just asking because that's the picture that Twist posted and the one that got me interested.

This one... f1.8, 1/125, ISO 250.

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Crop at 100%.

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I honesty don't know if it's an issue for me.
 
Well it's been causing so much concern today that I thought I'd look into it. It's not something that is likely to make a difference to me which is why I haven't bothered before.
First stop- google DPR a73 samples. One of the first images they experienced the problem with is available as a RAW download.
next stop - google DPR A73 striping, takes me to their sample gallery page which tells me it only happens in some circumstances when shooting wide open.
next stop - look at settings on the shot which shows the striping and set them on camera. put a flash behind a doll to cause flare and take shot.
Load into lightroom and I can see the striping pattern in the background. On the A7RII it's very faint but it's there. Even if it was to appear in any of my shots it wouldn't cause me a concern because even when trying to replicate the problem nit is very faint and has to be viewed at 100% to see it.

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So who here can define the definete steps to reproduce this issue all the time?

What exact lighting conditions. Camera settings etc etc needs in order to 100 percent replicate the issue?
 
As someone who sometimes provokes flare deliberately I suppose this could affect some of my pictures but I think that needs balancing against the benefits.

PS.
That biker couple shot... in a whole image no one I know would spot that banding. That's not an excuse from a Sony fan boy and I'm not saying this is acceptable... Just Sayin' that I think we've seen similar issues before and the human race survived.
 
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twist said:
But other users have on the dpr forum and also discussed it, and proven it via raw analysis. You really don't want to accept it.... says a lot.

Dan also recreated it with the a9 in minutes but guess you glazed over that.
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I do accept it and I'm asking how to and why you would buy the camera in the first place.

Diddnt see Dan create the same issue.only the A9 banding on led lights.
 
jonneymendoza said:
Which is my point. Not seen people who have the camera experience this issue.

Compared to say the stop down focus issue that anyone can try and replicate
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To be fair I never saw anyone who suffered with either the flare or shutter shading issue (except the one example of each) with the D750 either yet you'd think it was visible on every shot the way it was portrayed. As I say, these things are blown out of proportion. The thing is with any of these is that I'd be gutted if I was unlucky enough to experience it, that's why I sent my D750 in for the recall despite me being 99.9% sure I would have never seen it ;)
 
I'll wait on Dan's response as i missed when he posted it. Or I'll troll through his Flickr to try and find it.

See if I can reproduce it with the exact same settings as Dan
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I hope it's not some over the top settings like under exposing by 10 stops in order to reprogram lol
 
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