The Amazing Sony A1/A7/A9/APS-C & Anything else welcome Mega Thread!

manualfocus-g said:
Well that might be the problem then, more data to write I guess?
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Hi,

The current limitation with the A7 bodies is that they use a USB 2 internal data bus which tops out at around 36mbps, combine this with a small internal buffer and you get slow fps,write speeds and preview performance.
Having faster writing cards won't help.

This is where Sony's new LSI chip comes in which is found on the A6500 & A99 II which has solved the bottleneck.
I'd be very surprised if the next A7 / A9 body doesn't speed up everything to the point it's no longer one of the systems disadvantages.

As always it'll come at a cost, expect little change from £2000 for the A7 III or £3500-4000 for the A9.
 
Rizvan said:
Hi,

The current limitation with the A7 bodies is that they use a USB 2 internal data bus which tops out at around 36mbps, combine this with a small internal buffer and you get slow fps,write speeds and preview performance.
Having faster writing cards won't help.

This is where Sony's new LSI chip comes in which is found on the A6500 & A99 II which has solved the bottleneck.
I'd be very surprised if the next A7 / A9 body doesn't speed up everything to the point it's no longer one of the systems disadvantages.

As always it'll come at a cost, expect little change from £2000 for the A7 III or £3500-4000 for the A9.
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Is this referring to how many images we can take in one go are the time it takes to write to a memory card? Like I've mentioned if using JPEG I can keep the finger down. If using compress raw I can take 27 images. If using uncompressed raw it about 10
 
rookies said:
Is this referring to how many images we can take in one go are the time it takes to write to a memory card? Like I've mentioned if using JPEG I can keep the finger down. If using compress raw I can take 27 images. If using uncompressed raw it about 10
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How many images you can take in one row is limited by the buffer and the speed in which it clears the buffer and writes to the SD card. The data path between the buffer and SD card has a maximum transfer rate of 36mbps. So if you shoot JPEG it'll be quicker as your working with smaller file sizes.
What I found is that once you go past the high fps bottle neck the camera becomes slower in image review.
A way to get improve this is to shoot RAW+JPEG as the LCD uses the JPEG for image reviewing.
It'll no longer be a issue once they put the LSI in the new bodies and you can always work around the buffer/speed limitations of the current A7 bodies. :D
 
This is one of the situations where a limitation of hardware is judged as a fault because of the way the camera is being used. Sony never implemented uncompressed raw originally because they were already aware of the fact that naturally means larger files (for limited gain), and as a result the buffer and internal data handling slows down.

Realistically, if you use the right camera settings it won't be an issue. Shoot uncompressed raw if you want to squeeze out any last drop of detail for landscapes/high dynamic range situations. If you want to shoot continuous, shoot compressed raw or jpeg. A lot of pro sports photographers will shoot jpeg because it's faster to process in-camera and you get the best buffer performance. Trying to machine gun while outputting uncompressed raw files is always going to be slower.

Uncompressed Raw output was only implemented following online complaints from people who put way too much priority on DxOmarks over actually viewing a photograph in a real world scenario.
 
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stevelmx5 said:
This is one of the situations where a limitation of hardware is judged as a fault because of the way the camera is being used. Sony never implemented uncompressed raw originally because they were already aware of the fact that naturally means larger files (for limited gain), and as a result the buffer and internal data handling slows down.

Realistically, if you use the right camera settings it won't be an issue. Shoot uncompressed raw if you want to squeeze out any last drop of detail for landscapes/high dynamic range situations. If you want to shoot continuous, shoot compressed raw or jpeg. A lot of pro sports photographers will shoot jpeg because it's faster to process in-camera and you get the best buffer performance. Trying to machine gun while outputting uncompressed raw files is always going to be slower.

Uncompressed Raw output was only implemented following online complaints from people who put way too much priority on DxOmarks over actually viewing a photograph in a real world scenario.
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i do remember the uproar at the "lossy raw files". can't say that my untrained eyes can tell a difference between compressed and uncompressed -but i do like to push the landscape shots.
im not shooting any sports or real action at the moment, so keeping it in single shot drive mode is just fine.
 
stevelmx5 said:
Uncompressed Raw output was only implemented following online complaints from people who put way too much priority on DxOmarks over actually viewing a photograph in a real world scenario.
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It's never been a problem for me but I don't think that I push the gear particularly hard. I did follow a few of the discussions but I'm convinced by my own experience and that some of the more sensible on line bloggers and reviewers such as Luminous Landscape declared it not to be a real world issue.
 
woof woof said:
It's never been a problem for me but I don't think that I push the gear particularly hard. I did follow a few of the discussions but I'm convinced by my own experience and that some of the more sensible on line bloggers and reviewers such as Luminous Landscape declared it not to be a real world issue.
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I agree, I've tested it on the A7RII, it's only beneficial when pushing right to the upper limits of dynamic range.
I may be going in the complete opposite direction with my Fuji XT-2 and shoot RAW+JPEG and use the JPEG's for most of my uses, keep the RAW's if I need more from the files and when I have time to work on them.
Time is a problem these days so post-processing seems to suffer. :D
 
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Rizvan said:
I agree, I've tested it on the A7RII, it's only beneficial when pushing right to the upper limits of dynamic range.
I may going in the complete opposite direction with my Fuji XT-2 and shoot RAW+JPEG and use the JPEG's for most of my uses, keep the RAW's if I need more from the files and when I have time.
Time is a problem these days so post-processing seems to suffer. :D
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This is what I did on the D750 one stick for raw one for Jpeg
 
Rizvan said:
I agree, I've tested it on the A7RII, it's only beneficial when pushing right to the upper limits of dynamic range.
I may be going in the complete opposite direction with my Fuji XT-2 and shoot RAW+JPEG and use the JPEG's for most of my uses, keep the RAW's if I need more from the files and when I have time to work on them.
Time is a problem these days so post-processing seems to suffer. :D
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Don't mention the f word
 
Jonathan can I ask why do you use canon lens and not native is there somthing special about these canon? Yes they are great lens the L glasses as I use to be a canon boy for 8 years.. 40D 7D 6D 5Dmkiii
 
rookies said:
Jonathan can I ask why do you use canon lens and not native is there somthing special about these canon? Yes they are great lens the L glasses as I use to be a canon boy for 8 years.. 40D 7D 6D 5Dmkiii
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theres a few canon lenses i really like and never got the chance to use when i was a nikon boy. i want to add the 135 f2 at some point.thats the beauty of the sony - ibis on any lens
 
addicknchips said:
theres a few canon lenses i really like and never got the chance to use when i was a nikon boy. i want to add the 135 f2 at some point.thats the beauty of the sony - ibis on any lens
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That 135mm you won't be disappointed at all it one hell of lens..
 
I heard the Canon 135mm L is very very good combo on A7RII.
I am trying to resist the GAS at the moment, so no new lens this months (I hope to resist. Having Sony gives you so many options :) )

Meanwhile one photo by me from my recent trip to Thailand.

24 October 2016
Sony A7R II + Modified Sigma 60mm F/2.8
No flash, (late evening) indoors
Pattaya, Thailand
Model: W
The beautiful W by Kalin Kalpachev, on Flickr
 
photosample said:
I heard the Canon 135mm L is very very good combo on A7RII.
I am trying to resist the GAS at the moment, so no new lens this months (I hope to resist. Having Sony gives you so many options :) )

Meanwhile one photo by me from my recent trip to Thailand.

24 October 2016
Sony A7R II + Modified Sigma 60mm F/2.8
No flash, (late evening) indoors
Pattaya, Thailand
Model: W
The beautiful W by Kalin Kalpachev, on Flickr
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Fabulous shot the camera lens combo works very well
 
photosample said:
Meanwhile one photo by me from my recent trip to Thailand.

Pattaya, Thailand
Model: W
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Ha!

My GF is from just down the road in Chonburi. I've never seen your friend though :D

You do see some sights in Pattaya :D
 
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photosample said:
I heard the Canon 135mm L is very very good combo on A7RII.
I am trying to resist the GAS at the moment, so no new lens this months (I hope to resist. Having Sony gives you so many options :) )

Meanwhile one photo by me from my recent trip to Thailand.

24 October 2016
Sony A7R II + Modified Sigma 60mm F/2.8
No flash, (late evening) indoors
Pattaya, Thailand
Model: W
The beautiful W by Kalin Kalpachev, on Flickr
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Nice tatts
 
border_all said:
Well my last filter came today chuffed with it

@addicknchips hope your r2 is with you, enjoy it very much just need a sale for your mkii now :)
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cheers Allan. its here and looking damn fine!
tempted to keep the a7ii as a second body where the button layout matches the a7rii - but the sale would help with cash flow and purchasing a new lens.
 
What lens are you after?

The 50mm macro is still tempting me.
 
I think the 55mm is pretty much essential even if it only gets occasional use as the advantage of having the f1.8 available comes in handy now and again for low light or creative DoF use.

I have a manual 50mm macro but I fancy the modern AF lens for walkabout use.
 
woof woof said:
What lens are you after?

The 50mm macro is still tempting me.
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i'd like to take Rizvan's 85mm off his hands but I'm struggling with the funds after the big camera purchase.
my main concern is i don't have anything wider than 35mm. i want to get out in the evenings around the city and do some landscape shots. so I'm thinking to either try and reacquire the lovely 16-35f4, or go for a used 24-70 f4.
 
I don't suppose you'd be happy with old manual lenses? That's what I use for my lesser used focal lengths of 24, 28, 85 and 135mm. I don't have anything for my A7 as wide as 16mm though, I have wide angle for MFT though and on that subject...

My MFT kit isn't selling but I bought a GX80 and it's an amazing camera... except for the EVF which is ho-hum to poor by todays standards. If a future A7 can get to the level of performance of MFT it'll be an amazing camera. MFT will be hard to match though if only for the reason of an A7 moving extra glass about quickly.
 
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photosample said:
I heard the Canon 135mm L is very very good combo on A7RII.
I am trying to resist the GAS at the moment, so no new lens this months (I hope to resist. Having Sony gives you so many options :) )

Meanwhile one photo by me from my recent trip to Thailand.

24 October 2016
Sony A7R II + Modified Sigma 60mm F/2.8
No flash, (late evening) indoors
Pattaya, Thailand
Model: W
The beautiful W by Kalin Kalpachev, on Flickr
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Gorgeous,has she got a mate,im lookin
 
addicknchips said:
i'd like to take Rizvan's 85mm off his hands but I'm struggling with the funds after the big camera purchase.
my main concern is i don't have anything wider than 35mm. i want to get out in the evenings around the city and do some landscape shots. so I'm thinking to either try and reacquire the lovely 16-35f4, or go for a used 24-70 f4.
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There's a used Samyang 85mm f1.4 on eBay though clearly not in the league of the Sony af that Riz has £190 + pp :)
 
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